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Leader Brawl and Blackout question.

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Leader Brawl and Blackout question.

Postby BigChrisfilm » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:50 pm

On the back of the Leader Optomus Prime fig, it's got a pic of Blackout. Does that mean they are making a Blackout Leader fig? The reason I want to know is because the Voyager Blackout is not big enough. He should be the same size as Megatron and Prime. Also, is Brawl really THAT big in the movie? I mean, should I really hold out for the Leader Brawl, if I want him to be in scale with the Leader Prime and Megatron?
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Postby MegatronBomb » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:59 pm

there is two leader brawls on ebay going for $100, thats pretty dumb
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Postby War_On_Errorism » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:04 pm

Well If Your Picky About Scale. I Mean I Really Like The Deluxe Brawl. One Of The Better Deluxes In My Opinion.
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Postby magnusupreme » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:13 pm

I would like to see a leader class blackout
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Re: Leader Brawl and Blackout question.

Postby Pontimax 01 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:57 pm

BigChrisfilm wrote:On the back of the Leader Optomus Prime fig, it's got a pic of Blackout. Does that mean they are making a Blackout Leader fig? The reason I want to know is because the Voyager Blackout is not big enough. He should be the same size as Megatron and Prime. Also, is Brawl really THAT big in the movie? I mean, should I really hold out for the Leader Brawl, if I want him to be in scale with the Leader Prime and Megatron?


Agree that blackout is too small.

But Brawl... have you ever seen an Abrams tank? I don't live too far from the Lima Plant, and I've seen them sitting on rail cars. They're massive, and if arms and legs pop out of it, I could entirely see it being a monster.
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Postby softimus_prime » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:05 pm

yeah brawl is really big remember on the movie jazz actually jump on his shoulders then kick off one of his missile turrets and as well as ratchet so that means he's really in scale for leader class blackout however is big but im not sure howbig he is because his not seen in the movie along with other bots and cons...
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Postby Zeds » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:14 pm

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Leader Blackout would be da bomb! No brainer for Hasbro to cash in on but they would rather do Brawl for some reason. Not bad but could have chosen better!
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Postby softimus_prime » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:18 pm

g1transformers wrote:Leader Blackout would be da bomb! No brainer for Hasbro to cash in on but they would rather do Brawl for some reason. Not bad but could have chosen better!


suposedly, all of the cons should be atleast leader class except for barricade and scorponok,well frenzy atleast is scale the smallest of the cons...
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Postby Pontimax 01 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:26 pm

softimus_prime wrote:yeah brawl is really big remember on the movie jazz actually jump on his shoulders then kick off one of his missile turrets and as well as ratchet so that means he's really in scale for leader class blackout however is big but im not sure howbig he is because his not seen in the movie along with other bots and cons...



If we're talking real world scale, Blackout should be roughly twice the size of Brawl I'd think. A MH53 is 88 feet long, has a rotor diameter of 72 feet, and can carry 35+ troops. So he should be massive.

Brawl would be 32 feet long in alt mode. But weight wise, Brawl would significantly outweigh Blackout if they at all corrospond to their earth forms.
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Postby Barricade » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:34 pm

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a masterpeice type leader class blackout would be the smartest thing hasbro has EVER done 8)
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:37 pm

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Barricade wrote:a masterpeice type leader class blackout would be the smartest thing hasbro has EVER done 8)


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Postby softimus_prime » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:42 pm

blackout is really intruiging, according to the bio's he's the largest of the decepticons but on the movie they didn't show him up along with other characters but i really think the pave low is really big i just hope i can see an actual pave low along with the other real life vehicles like the buffalo, m1 abrams and f-22 raptor... can anyone post a picture of this? :-?
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Postby Pontimax 01 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:51 pm

Hard to find a good pic, but here's one coming in over some F-16's.

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And here's one airlifting out what looks like a Marine LVTP

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They're big.
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Postby massmachine » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:53 pm

sorry this im sure this has been discussed but when is leager brawl coming?not hijacking or anythung

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Postby softimus_prime » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:56 pm

i saw a picture at tfw2005.com which shows some of the real life vehicles on an airport it includes the peterbilt, pontiac solstice, ford mustang, camaro, hummer, gmc topkick and the biggest one the f-22 raptor... the raptor somehow is really big...
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Postby Pontimax 01 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:59 pm

Here's one where you can at least compare Starscream to Prime and the other Autobots.

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Raptor is 62 feet long, so Blackout would be 26 feet longer yet in alt form. And the Raptor only has a wingspan of 44 feet.
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Postby Koloth » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:24 pm

Just shows you how really close the Bots scale is and how really off the Cons scale is. Still say Blackout should be at least a supreme though. At least make the Cons scale as close as possible.
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Postby softimus_prime » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:29 pm

poor bonecrusher he is kinda sort of a bad ass in the movie but turns out to be in deluxe class is saw an actual buffalo and the picture shows a guy standing beside it and he is just as big as the tire only...
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Postby Pontimax 01 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:45 pm

I'd love to see these guys in their movie glory size. The leader Brawl definitely helps, but Blackout is the one I really wanna see get a growth spurt.
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Postby Bonecrusher27 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:57 pm

Pontimax 01 wrote:Here's one where you can at least compare Starscream to Prime and the other Autobots.

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Raptor is 62 feet long, so Blackout would be 26 feet longer yet in alt form. And the Raptor only has a wingspan of 44 feet.


That is really a cool picture! Where did you get it, and are there any others on the source page?
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Postby softimus_prime » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:03 pm

Bonecrusher27 wrote:
Pontimax 01 wrote:Here's one where you can at least compare Starscream to Prime and the other Autobots.

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Raptor is 62 feet long, so Blackout would be 26 feet longer yet in alt form. And the Raptor only has a wingspan of 44 feet.


That is really a cool picture! Where did you get it, and are there any others on the source page?


it's at tfw2005.com try searching the transformers movie link and search until you find the news about the pic...
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Postby Pontimax 01 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:09 pm

Bonecrusher27 wrote:
Pontimax 01 wrote:Here's one where you can at least compare Starscream to Prime and the other Autobots.




Raptor is 62 feet long, so Blackout would be 26 feet longer yet in alt form. And the Raptor only has a wingspan of 44 feet.


That is really a cool picture! Where did you get it, and are there any others on the source page?


It's at quite a few sites now. I just grabbed the first one I could get source code for.

There's some good stuff about the movie cars over at Edmunds.com/insideline. Just search for "transformers" and it should bring up 3 articles, one about driving the concept camaro used in the movie, another about driving the beater camaro, and then an overview of all the cars used, including the Peterbuilt and Saleen.
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:15 pm

...i would be all over a leader class blackout
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Postby wing0hero » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:29 pm

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Postby Goribus » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:41 pm

War_On_Errorism wrote:Well If Your Picky About Scale. I Mean I Really Like The Deluxe Brawl. One Of The Better Deluxes In My Opinion.


Except that his arm pegs don't fit in the peg holes. And I shouldn't have to do "after market modifications" to a toy I bought to make it look right. His arms flop to his sides like he's been stabbed at the base of his skull.
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