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Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:

original sin wrote:Wow, people bashing Beast Wars, Beast Machines AND Robots in Disguise all in one thread. I guess some people have no taste

In my eyes, Beast Wars and Robots in Disguise are the best two series. Everyone can rant and rave about how G1 is so much better because its first, but BW and RiD had better story lines. Plus, G1 Megatron was an idiot. G1 wasn't terrible at all, but I hate that everyone puts it up on some mantle just because it was the first one.

Thanks.

Or it's those, "If it ain't 80's, it sucks!" mentality. Plus while Low road was silly.....it was not as silly as 'hoist goes to hollywood', 'girl who loved powerglide', or my most hated G1 story 'A Decepticon in King Aurthor's Court'

original sin wrote:

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:

original sin wrote:Wow, people bashing Beast Wars, Beast Machines AND Robots in Disguise all in one thread. I guess some people have no taste

In my eyes, Beast Wars and Robots in Disguise are the best two series. Everyone can rant and rave about how G1 is so much better because its first, but BW and RiD had better story lines. Plus, G1 Megatron was an idiot. G1 wasn't terrible at all, but I hate that everyone puts it up on some mantle just because it was the first one.

Thanks.

Or it's those, "If it ain't 80's, it sucks!" mentality. Plus while Low road was silly.....it was not as silly as 'hoist goes to hollywood', 'girl who loved powerglide', or my most hated G1 story 'A Decepticon in King Aurthor's Court'

Plus, RiD introduced us to some AMAZING characters. The Predacon Trio, Sky-Byte, and SCOURGE! Who needs Nemesis Prime when Scourge is a total badass!

Name_Violation wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:For all the awesome BW was, Beast Machines was twice as horible. Preachermus Prime was god aweful. Black Arachnia as a damsel in distress? That show is 99% of why i hate maximals. DW/IDW atleast redeemed the beast factions, but still. Prime was a joke, Arachia was pitiful, and Silverbolt was depressing. It had a few ok things, i liked silvervolt as the vehicon, and Rhinox becoming the EVIL Tankorr was cool, but monkeys slingshottng Waspinator into space? I liked the take on Megatron, and Botanica was very original, but thats hardly enough to redeem the horrendousness of it all. It makes my eyes burn and ears want to stab themselves.

There was no "Prime" in BW or BM. Unless you count his stasis locked body in the Ark, whose head got blasted by Megs, or that phony hologram of him in Iacon that Megs used.

At least Silverbolt wasn't speaking in that cheesy wannabe-medieval dialogue or going gaga over Blackarachnia.

The protohumans didn't slingshot Waspy into space. He didn't any farther than the sky. It was never confirmed how he got back to Cybertron (as he only said that it "Took [him] forver" to get back), but a cancelled Primeval Dawn comic would've had him go back with Primal Prime's crew, only to get his spark removed and later put in Thrust's body.

You gotta admit, the second season was better than the first. And the G1 references (Key to Vector Sigma, Plasma Energy Chamber, Iacon, etc.) were kinda cool. And its finale with Primal and Megs as the last two living TF on all of Cybertron duking it out and having to kill each other was pretty cool.

But, yeah, the whole "nature vs. technology" could've been done better/differently. But it wasn't so much as that kind of conflict as it was more of a "balance vs. extreemism" conflict.

Prime, Primal, same diff. i'm looking up some other stuff and will come back to this later

Name_Violation wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:For all the awesome BW was, Beast Machines was twice as horible. Preachermus Prime was god aweful. Black Arachnia as a damsel in distress? That show is 99% of why i hate maximals. DW/IDW atleast redeemed the beast factions, but still. Prime was a joke, Arachia was pitiful, and Silverbolt was depressing. It had a few ok things, i liked silvervolt as the vehicon, and Rhinox becoming the EVIL Tankorr was cool, but monkeys slingshottng Waspinator into space? I liked the take on Megatron, and Botanica was very original, but thats hardly enough to redeem the horrendousness of it all. It makes my eyes burn and ears want to stab themselves.

There was no "Prime" in BW or BM. Unless you count his stasis locked body in the Ark, whose head got blasted by Megs, or that phony hologram of him in Iacon that Megs used.

At least Silverbolt wasn't speaking in that cheesy wannabe-medieval dialogue or going gaga over Blackarachnia.

The protohumans didn't slingshot Waspy into space. He didn't any farther than the sky. It was never confirmed how he got back to Cybertron (as he only said that it "Took [him] forver" to get back), but a cancelled Primeval Dawn comic would've had him go back with Primal Prime's crew, only to get his spark removed and later put in Thrust's body.

You gotta admit, the second season was better than the first. And the G1 references (Key to Vector Sigma, Plasma Energy Chamber, Iacon, etc.) were kinda cool. And its finale with Primal and Megs as the last two living TF on all of Cybertron duking it out and having to kill each other was pretty cool.

But, yeah, the whole "nature vs. technology" could've been done better/differently. But it wasn't so much as that kind of conflict as it was more of a "balance vs. extreemism" conflict.

Prime, Primal, same diff. i'm looking up some other stuff and will come back to this later

i liked silverbolts speach pattrns in bw, i hated how they changed it. i liked parts of it, but. your right, the scene i rmembered doesn't show hiim getting into space

Saber Prime wrote:You forgot RID which did technically have Beast Formers in it who were mostly repaints of Beast Wars toys but there were more vehicles on the show than beasts.

And what's to learn, Beast Wars is the most well written series ever to come out of Transformers.

original sin wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:You forgot RID which did technically have Beast Formers in it who were mostly repaints of Beast Wars toys but there were more vehicles on the show than beasts.

And what's to learn, Beast Wars is the most well written series ever to come out of Transformers.

Fixed

And I didn't forget the Beast Formers, I mentioned the Predacon Trio and Sky-Byte.

Saber Prime wrote:

original sin wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:You forgot RID which did technically have Beast Formers in it who were mostly repaints of Beast Wars toys but there were more vehicles on the show than beasts.

And what's to learn, Beast Wars is the most well written series ever to come out of Transformers.

Fixed

And I didn't forget the Beast Formers, I mentioned the Predacon Trio and Sky-Byte.

I wasn't talking to you. That was directed at the OP, I never read passed the first post.

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Don't forget Sky-Byte was the only one not imprisoned at the end of RID. He's a clever Predacon, I tell you what.