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Overcracker wrote:I'd still love to see a third AG Amazing Spider-Man movie in his own universe with his own villains now.

Let the kid fight an alien in his 3rd movie, come on, he said he wanted to!

In a way I'm getting a bit annoyed with how they are doing villains in the MCU. The Hulk's villains are likely entangled in rights issues with Universal. Yet none of the Avengers rival teams have even been referenced. 90% of Iron Man's roster has been left unused. Possibly forever. They've even done Mandarin twice and it still isn't the intended character.

Now with have a pseudo Sinister Six, with caveats. Alongside characters from the Sony side projects being introduced without any context or relationship to Spider-Man at all.

It concerns me. Because with the X-Men and Fantastic Four on their way. So to are some of Marvel's most iconic villains. I really hope they will all be brand new casting and not tagalongs from prior films. Rumours suggest one such cameo has been signed for Dr Strange 2. Which I hope is just a visual call back.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I'd still love to see a third AG Amazing Spider-Man movie in his own universe with his own villains now.

Let the kid fight an alien in his 3rd movie, come on, he said he wanted to!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I'd still love to see a third AG Amazing Spider-Man movie in his own universe with his own villains now.

Let the kid fight an alien in his 3rd movie, come on, he said he wanted to!

Be careful what you wish for, you may not like the alien he ends up fighting... He's been entangled with the likes of Beyonder, Galactus and Gog!

Gog!

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Overcracker wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I'd still love to see a third AG Amazing Spider-Man movie in his own universe with his own villains now.

Let the kid fight an alien in his 3rd movie, come on, he said he wanted to!

Be careful what you wish for, you may not like the alien he ends up fighting... He's been entangled with the likes of Beyonder, Galactus and Gog!

AmazingSpider-Man103.jpeg

As long as he fights an alien, I don't think he cares!

I don't like Spider-Man. Although I had watched all the previous films (when comic book movies were less prevalent), the MCU iteration I found insufferable during Infinity War. As such, I had avoided his solo films. Until I saw No Way Home last week.

Comfortably, in my opinion, the best Live Action Spider-Man film onscreen to date. I'm told Into The Spiderverse is very good. But I haven't watched that.

My main thing is villains. This film does them VERY well.
Through the early Spider-Man cartoons, I am familiar with his most popular foes. Willem Defoe and Alfred Molina are great in everything. But I think they are even better here, than they were previously. I'm quietly confident in saying Jamie Foxx and Rhys Ifans are much improved, in spite of reduced screen time from their debuts. Thomas Haden Church however, is almost completely underutilised in this film. Less a character, more a plot device for set pieces. Which is a shame. As I think he made the character work onscreen in the otherwise unfortunate Spider-Man 3.

Everyone else was great, especially the scene stealing "No.3". It is funny though, going into this one blind to the previous ensemble cast. None of the dramatic moments had the same significance to me. As it did for some fans in the cinema, crying their eyes out.

One thing I really appreciated, was the underlying symbolism of MCU Spider-Man subtly losing all his associated Iron Man trappings, throughout the film. Shedding the "Iron Lad" derision, I've heard from many die hard Spidey fans. Also liked that the mid-credit scene righted a wrong.

For a non-Spider-Man fan, I was very impressed.

Moon Knight is great!

I'm waiting for Dr. Strange 2. Where Shuma Gorath is called Garganthos. I'm also waiting for Thor - Love and Thunder. I like Jane Foster.

I plan on selling my Shuma Gorath comics. Shuma Gorath is Gargantos in Dr. Strange 2.

TulioDude wrote:Moon Knight is great!

Episode 5 was the best of the series so far.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Moon Knight is great!

Episode 5 was the best of the series so far.

The series is very well made,I just wonder how they will manage to tie up all the threads by end of the episode.

Plz no cliffhanger ending...

I wonder when Darkhawk will be on dvd. Also, Werewolf by night on dvd.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:I wonder when Darkhawk will be on dvd. Also, Werewolf by night on dvd.

They haven't released them yet

Cyber Bishop wrote:

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:I wonder when Darkhawk will be on dvd. Also, Werewolf by night on dvd.

They haven't released them yet

I know. I'm playing the waiting game. I also like Quasar.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:I wonder when Darkhawk will be on dvd. Also, Werewolf by night on dvd.

They haven't released them yet

I know. I'm playing the waiting game. I also like Quasar.

You will be waiting a long time as they haven't even started development on them yet.

Darkhawk has been confirmed for disney plus in 2 or 1 years. A man who is last named Avery is Darkhawk. Werewolf by night will be a halloween special.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:Darkhawk has been confirmed for disney plus in 2 or 1 years. A man who is last named Avery is Darkhawk. Werewolf by night will be a halloween special.

Heh, you have a long time to wait.

Holy crap Darkhawk?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In a way I'm getting a bit annoyed with how they are doing villains in the MCU. The Hulk's villains are likely entangled in rights issues with Universal. Yet none of the Avengers rival teams have even been referenced. 90% of Iron Man's roster has been left unused. Possibly forever. They've even done Mandarin twice and it still isn't the intended character.

Now with have a pseudo Sinister Six, with caveats. Alongside characters from the Sony side projects being introduced without any context or relationship to Spider-Man at all.

It concerns me. Because with the X-Men and Fantastic Four on their way. So to are some of Marvel's most iconic villains. I really hope they will all be brand new casting and not tagalongs from prior films. Rumours suggest one such cameo has been signed for Dr Strange 2. Which I hope is just a visual call back.

Yeah, while the MCU has had some geniunly good villians, Loki, Ego, Thanos, Zemo, they've wasted a bunch of good ones fro mthe comics (my real gripe with Guardians of the Galaxy was how they characterised Ronan) and ignored others. Like is the Masters of Evil that tricky? let the villians survive their first outing and team up to even the odds.

Blastback wrote:Holy crap Darkhawk?

Yes sir. In 1 or 2 years, Darkhawk is said to be on disney plus. Werewolf by night is going to have a halloween special.

P.D. I'm waiting for Catwoman hunted to be on dvd. I saw it on youtube.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:

Blastback wrote:Holy crap Darkhawk?

Yes sir. In 1 or 2 years, Darkhawk is said to be on disney plus. Werewolf by night is going to have a halloween special.

P.D. I'm waiting for Catwoman hunted to be on dvd. I saw it on youtube.

Darkhawk
**RUMORED**
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/11/ ... sney-plus/

Not 100% confirmed..

Werewolf by Night
**Again RUMORED**

https://www.ign.com/articles/marvel-hal ... f-by-night

Not 100% confirmed

These are the top articles I could find on either, both again are RUMORED and have no further definitive information that I can find. Rumors do not mean that we are getting them, we were rumored to be getting better versions of the Inhumans and that fizzled out with that God awful tv show not to mention the half a dozen other rumored things Marvel has promised and not delivered on through the years.

***SPOILERS BELOW READ AT YOUR OWN RISK***

However after seeing a sneak preview of Dr Strange multiverse of madness last night and speaking of Inhumans we are getting a variant of Black Bolt played by Anson Mount who played him in the TV show. and a variant of Mr. Fantastic played by John Krasinski... yes, you read that correctly. Also no Tom Cruise cameo.

Any universe outside of the MCU duplicate characters are variants and not the core ones from the MCU, just remember this moving forward as I have a feeling variants are going to pop up a lot more all over the MCU now after this movie.

That means everyone that appears in the Illuminati is a variant regardless of what happens to them, there are other versions of them somewhere in the multiverse so don't fret after you see the movie .

Blastback wrote:Yeah, while the MCU has had some genuinely good villains, Loki, Ego, Thanos, Zemo, they've wasted a bunch of good ones from the comics (my real gripe with Guardians of the Galaxy was how they characterised Ronan) and ignored others. Like is the Masters of Evil that tricky? let the villains survive their first outing and team up to even the odds.

This is the problem. The Avengers, as per the original team, are gone from the MCU now. They left without facing any rival team. No Serpent Society, Masters of Evil, Wrecking Crew etc, etc

Iron Man is dead and his roster was left at three or four onscreen, at most. Two of those were botched. Captain America never fought Red Skull outside of WW2. The list of villain missteps in the MCU is a worrying track record. The Brotherhood of Mutants. The Morlocks. The Horsemen of Apocalypse. The Marauders. The MLF. The Purifiers. The Friends of Humanity. The U-Men.
X-Men has a lot of rival teams. Their absence would be noticeable.
By the same token. They could just kill off Dr. Doom, Annihilus or Galactus with the FF. The precedent is set.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:

Blastback wrote:Holy crap Darkhawk?

Yes sir. In 1 or 2 years, Darkhawk is said to be on disney plus. Werewolf by night is going to have a halloween special.

P.D. I'm waiting for Catwoman hunted to be on dvd. I saw it on youtube.

Darkhawk
**RUMORED**
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/11/ ... sney-plus/

Not 100% confirmed..

Werewolf by Night
**Again RUMORED**

https://www.ign.com/articles/marvel-hal ... f-by-night

Not 100% confirmed

These are the top articles I could find on either, both again are RUMORED and have no further definitive information that I can find. Rumors do not mean that we are getting them, we were rumored to be getting better versions of the Inhumans and that fizzled out with that God awful tv show not to mention the half a dozen other rumored things Marvel has promised and not delivered on through the years.

***SPOILERS BELOW READ AT YOUR OWN RISK***

However after seeing a sneak preview of Dr Strange multiverse of madness last night and speaking of Inhumans we are getting a variant of Black Bolt played by Anson Mount who played him in the TV show. and a variant of Mr. Fantastic played by John Krasinski... yes, you read that correctly. Also no Tom Cruise cameo.

Any universe outside of the MCU duplicate characters are variants and not the core ones from the MCU, just remember this moving forward as I have a feeling variants are going to pop up a lot more all over the MCU now after this movie.

That means everyone that appears in the Illuminati is a variant regardless of what happens to them, there are other versions of them somewhere in the multiverse so don't fret after you see the movie .

Blackbolt from the inhumans was in dr. strange 2.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:Blackbolt from the inhumans was in dr. strange 2.

Uh yes I said that in the spoiler which was highlighted, you should have hit the spoiler tag man.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Blastback wrote:Yeah, while the MCU has had some genuinely good villains, Loki, Ego, Thanos, Zemo, they've wasted a bunch of good ones from the comics (my real gripe with Guardians of the Galaxy was how they characterised Ronan) and ignored others. Like is the Masters of Evil that tricky? let the villains survive their first outing and team up to even the odds.

This is the problem. The Avengers, as per the original team, are gone from the MCU now. They left without facing any rival team. No Serpent Society, Masters of Evil, Wrecking Crew etc, etc

Iron Man is dead and his roster was left at three or four onscreen, at most. Two of those were botched. Captain America never fought Red Skull outside of WW2. The list of villain missteps in the MCU is a worrying track record. The Brotherhood of Mutants. The Morlocks. The Horsemen of Apocalypse. The Marauders. The MLF. The Purifiers. The Friends of Humanity. The U-Men.
X-Men has a lot of rival teams. Their absence would be noticeable.
By the same token. They could just kill off Dr. Doom, Annihilus or Galactus with the FF. The precedent is set.

I've seen this talked about before and most of it was put down to the differences between comic books and movies. Put simply, most movie goers expect a more...solid resolution to a movie, and having the bad guys get away every time (or escape from prison every single time) wouldn't go down well with the non-comic fans.

But that ultimately leads the problem that the Tim Burton Batman films would have had. You kill off all the best villains. Eventually you only have bad ones left. Batman 5 featuring Ventriloquist or Film Freak. Wouldn't have gone down well with non-comic book fans either.


Meanwhile, went to see Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Very Sam Raimi ala Evil Dead, not Spider-Man. Cumberbatch and Olsen really shine, too. Be forewarned, if you haven't seen Wandavision prior, you probably should. 9/10