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The movie was centered around the idea of "a boy and his car".
Making the movie primarily from the viewpoint of the human characters.

How about shifting the idea into "an autobot and his human friend"?
That could still maintain the present storyline... but gives a bit more screen time to the robots.

Auto Bot wrote:The movie was centered around the idea of "a boy and his car".
Making the movie primarily from the viewpoint of the human characters.

True. But it was also about not only the war between the Autobots and Decepticons but to show Earth's response. By doing so the movie makes it more realistic and legit.
What would happen if two warring alien armies came to earth? If they only had the war between the Aotobots and Deceps, the ordinary person would think "Where's our boys? Are we just sitting around letting this happen?" If something like this happened there would be a response, militarily.
The other thing original about this movie is usually when it comes to alien invasion movies its usually us versus the aliens. This is one of the few occasions there are aliens helping fight the invasion.

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Night Raid wrote: Yeah, that and this is EXACTLY how it would be if this were to take place in real life. The military WOULD get involved and good luck getting them not to.

Being former military and watching the movie, all I could do was roll my eyes. The whole military scenario was hokey! A Predator drone with afterburner????

But seeing as most of the movie going public are civvies, I think we can over look that oversight

And given the fact that some of the movie-going public AREN'T, we can address some things they might not get.

I've heard people saying that the fight scenes were way too fast, totally chaotic and hard to follow. Well, that's how war is. It's chaotic and nuts and really really loud. You got all these things happening at once and ammo flying every which way and things exploding... AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF! Stuff happens fast. Anyway, having the fight scenes be like that portrayed what it would be like to actually BE there in the thick of things.

I'm not in the military, but a lot of my relatives are.

Night Raid wrote:And given the fact that some of the movie-going public AREN'T, we can address some things they might not get.

I've heard people saying that the fight scenes were way too fast, totally chaotic and hard to follow. Well, that's how war is. It's chaotic and nuts and really really loud. You got all these things happening at once and ammo flying every which way and things exploding... AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF! Stuff happens fast. Anyway, having the fight scenes be like that portrayed what it would be like to actually BE there in the thick of things.

I'm not in the military, but a lot of my relatives are.

It wasn't the action that was too chaotic; it was the fact that the camera angles and views were all wrong.

I agree on that. It's Bay's style to keep the camera shaky and very close to the subject. It's a good thing non of the bots bumped into or gets tripped over by a camera man.

Bay should have been more open and imaginative to try other styles. The close ups are good. But we need a bit more wide angle shot.

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Autobobby1 wrote:

*Elita_One* wrote:Humans in the world of Transformers suck.

So you'd rather have Transformers on a planet other than Earth?

I they're on Earth, expect a lot of humans. Seriously. And there have been humans since G1! What's the big deal?

Just because it was on Earth doesn't mean there has to be humans. It could take place in a world where humans are wiped out.

I didn't mind the humans in the cartoon because there weren't many. I'd prefer more Transformers to robots.

Um, first off, if there on a planet with no humans why the f*** would they need to transform? It's not humans in the world of Transformers, its the Transformers in the world of humans. Second what cartoon are you talking about??? There have ALWAYS been humans in the cartoons. The only exception is Beast Wars/Beast Machines.

To quote from G1 episodes...

"Simple. Disguise. And it sure beats walking."

Second purpose of transforming is speed in mobility. Like Megatron transforming into a cybertronian jet. Zero disguise points, maximum speed points.

Auto Bot wrote:To quote from G1 episodes...

"Simple. Disguise. And it sure beats walking."

Second purpose of transforming is speed in mobility. Like Megatron transforming into a cybertronian jet. Zero disguise points, maximum speed points.

Or alternate functions. For instance, turning into a big city in the middle of nowhere populated by giant robots isn't a very good disguise, is about as slow as you can get, but it performs a function.

Sci-Fi nuts will tell you how mechs could never possibly work, but Tanks that can turn into Mechs, would - they'd remain in Tank form for the most part, but for special operations that could be useful.

Of course if anyone tried this whacky and expensive idea the transformations would be a lot more simple than the movie bots, much more like G1.

Right on!

Night Raid wrote:And given the fact that some of the movie-going public AREN'T, we can address some things they might not get.

I've heard people saying that the fight scenes were way too fast, totally chaotic and hard to follow. Well, that's how war is. It's chaotic and nuts and really really loud. You got all these things happening at once and ammo flying every which way and things exploding... AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF! Stuff happens fast. Anyway, having the fight scenes be like that portrayed what it would be like to actually BE there in the thick of things.

I'm not in the military, but a lot of my relatives are.

Two good movie example of that are "Blackhawk Down" and "Saving Private Ryan". Combat scenes in both movies seemed chaotic and fast paced.
My only complaint is that the camera was just too close to the fight. Since they are so big, ya think they'd zoom out a bit sometimes.
Speaking of "Saving Private Ryan" you think Speilberg had some influence in the combat sequences in this movie?

Movie is awesome but...

Why does Bumblebee have to seek Prime's permission to stay with the boy, when.... ALL of them are going to stay with the boy ANYWAY???

Duh?1?

I wish when Prime said "Autobots, roll out!"... all Autobots will transform into car mode at the same time, in the same frame, and move out all together.

NOT... jump around building tops.

Bay may have entered Transformer School 101...

I think he ought to continue enrolling in Transformer School 102...