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My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby ImmortalOptimus » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:09 pm

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I'm not wild about Bumblebee not talking either, but I have to say the rest of this show is freakin' epic!

Did anyone else fall out of their chairs laughing when Jack's drive thru "customers" took off with their food without paying?
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby ubertenorman » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:16 am

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I think I actually prefer Bumblebee speaking with beeps, etc. Not that I wouldn't like him to have a regular voice. But since he's definitely the kid-appeal character and even seems to be somewhat kid-like himself, I think he'd be more annoying with a kid-bot voice. If that makes sense...
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby zer0das » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:21 am

Dorca wrote:The concept of Decepticon drones is a good idea, because it makes the Decepticon army huge and terrifying, but I'm hoping we'll see more than three real characters at some point. Of course, I'm already completely sold on Starscream. Points to him for being a badass murderer. I also love how he seems so jittery and nervous with Megatron around. It's like he'll toss out the sarcastic comment every now and then, but he's keeping his distance. I'm wondering how long it will take this Starscream to attempt a takeover.


Decepticon drones CAN be a good idea, save for the fact that they are destroyed all too easily. They remind me of useless Foot Soldiers from TMNT, the Putties from Power Rangers, Goombas from Super Mario. You can have a billion of them on the screen, but it won't matter because they're all just going to fail.

So, on the contrary, while the Decepticon army may seem intimidating, they're just a bunch of screw-ups nonetheless. Having this be expanded to a "zombie" army is even worse. I've never heard of Megatron controlling hoards of drones before. Oh wait.

Starscream's characterization is pretty good. Although, if he can kill one Autobot, he should be able to do more.

I remain skeptical, the writers can do better, they're just not trying.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Nemesis251 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:20 am

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So far I'm impressed. I agree with some of the other posts that the show has a little bit of all the previous generations/shows including some the ideas from the movies.
I loved when Jack said the "Fight Club" line. I also hope they could have more of the "Rock" Johnson some kind of way without being cheesy.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby TypeRProwl » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:08 pm

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Only seen the premier episode so far, and it's as bad as i feared.

Why kill off Cliffjumper in Ep1??? He was the only Autobot i was looking forward to seeing as he'd been off the radar for so long. The rest are all pretty much as they appeared in Movieverse/Animated.

I'm getting used to the art style, but hate the fact that the cars are not actual real production cars. My first memory of TF is that the cars where real cars. I loved Prowl cus my dad had the same datsun, so the show had a greater connection. I hate the mish-mash way the cars look in this.

I HATE the idea of drones, just seems lazy cannon fodder to me. TF should never ever have drones, totally goes against that they (TFs) all have their own unique identity etc.

I'll stop now, cus i'll just think of more things to moan about.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Rodimus2006 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:16 pm

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Quite bashing this show when it has yet to even take off and get started into more important story plots we have no idea what Prime has instore for us so we have no right to bash it.

I love it might eventually even surpass G1 and Beast Wars but I cant say that after only watch the mini-series I reserve juddgement until Season 1 is completed then I can make a more comparing judgement amongst the other transformers already out there.

I cant comment on the Japanese series cause I have never seen Victory, Super God Master Force or Beast Wars Neo or 2 I forgot what that one was called.

Generation 2 is mostly comics and Toys I really dont remember if G2 had any episodes made but I do remember the toys such as Lazer Prime.

Prime looks promising but it is still to early to tell but I like what I am seeing from the humans, to the transformers and the Dark Energon is a new interesting twist.

I to am disappointed at CJ's early death I assume they know what they are doing and it could be plot related in future episodes.

I hope we get some powers from past shows such as Combiners, Triple Changers, Mini-Cons or Power Links I hope some of that will make it into Prime.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby ImmortalOptimus » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:44 pm

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I could do without the Minicons, but it would be cool to see the Combiners and Triple Changers.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby TypeRProwl » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:01 pm

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Wormholes WTFeck!!!!!!! What ever happened the huge tech required for space bridges? The more I think about this the more I wish those two idiot writers weren't involved.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Grendel » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:56 pm

never got into Animated, but I like Prime, my only real complaint is Bumblebee talking through beeps and a radio, otherwise this what I've wanted in a series since Beast Wars
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Personal Thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:27 am

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Not that anyone really cares what some random tosser thinks when they can go watch what people with youtube reviews thinks or when people with higher post counts than mine thinks, but I just felt like sharing my opinions of what we've seen in the miniseries that was presented to us. I also realize that there have probably been twenty dozen other people who's thoughts on this matter you've already gone through. Trust me though, my opinion is much more important (especially to my mother and I). Read it, ignore it, flame it, like it, reply to it, print it out make an effigy of me out of it and burn it with flaming projectile fecal matter, doesn't matter to me, I'm just putting this here because I like seeing my thoughts in textual form.

A warning to people who haven't seen it yet, there are/may be spoilers and I will kick you in the beans with my size 14 steel toed boots if you bitch about not liking my sexy words.

Now then, I had put off checking out this series for a while, mostly because I still had the bad taste of Animated in my mouth. The early art work put the character designs somewhere between the smelly leavings of out-of-work Teen Titan animators of Animated and the blurry, epileptic camera work, twisted, barely-recognizable-as-things Bayverse characters with a little bit of Pixar-styled humans in there too. Yes sometimes I do judge a book by it's concept art, we all do.

After getting over the new designs, and figuring that they weren't SO bad, I checked out the show, and f*c% me, it instantly replaced Beast Wars as the best Transformers series ever. The animation is great, the voice acting is right on, and I'm all for the story line in this. I hated everything about Animated, I hated the character designs, I hated the story, I hated the Autobots (except Jazz and Perceptor), I hated the Decepticons (except Blitzwing), I hated the guy(s) who conceptualized the idea, and I hate their dogs. So when I saw Bulkhead it took all my strength to not turn the monitor off and hurl my laptop at the nearest living creature.

So I repressed my rage into a nice healthy tumor an continued watching, as I did and the series went on I realized very quickly that, while he has the voice and body of Animated Bulkhead, they almost did a switch around with his personality. Rather than being the retarded kid who turns out to be an idiot savant at something, he's more like a stupid linebacker who's only in college because of a football scholarship. I think that simile got away on me there but my point is that I suddenly found myself liking the character. So after the entire cast of robots is presented to us and I find out that I like each and every one of them (yes including Bumblebee, I don't care what anyone says, I much prefer the R2D2 beeping Bayverse Bumblebee as opposed to the dumbass ego-fu%#er Bumblebee from Animated). Then we come to the weakpoint in any Transformers universe, the Humans.

Interestingly enough, out of the five Human characters we're introduced to in the miniseries, I only hated two of them, the others I really enjoyed, however I'll only talk about the three main ones here because this post is already going on longer than I have the attention span to actually read in one sitting.

First off: Raf. I hate the child the most. There is no way a 12 year old would know anything about computers. How in the hell a child is able to hack into a heavily guarded computer system is never going to be explained and that is what bothers me the most. I hated it in G1 and it's even worse now, I mean at least you could say that Chip could do it because he was using an advanced alien computer. This kid is using his laptop. Also, the fact that he understands Bumblebees beeping makes me want to regurgitate my organs through my nose.

Second off: Miko (generic Japanese sounding last name). If she's an exchange student who's only been in America for a little while, why does she not have an accent? It's not like she's been living there for years, exchange students are around for a few months, or at most a full school year, then they're shipped back to their home! So she's in there as the reckless, spunky female human lead in the group who's only there to #%ck things up for the people who actually matter. The kind of behavior she demonstrates can ONLY be tolerated with a small group of giant robots and only with the personalities the Autobots present have. A larger group would have realized how much of a security risk she was and that her recklessness and squishyness were a bad enough combination that she becomes a liability and should be barred from every being around any of them ever again, even so far as to put her into some sort of protective custody. Where's UK comic Grimlock when you need him?

Third off: Jack. Sexual tension between him and Arcee notwithstanding, this is one of the few times I can say that I actually enjoyed a human character in a Transformers series (the other times being Sparkplug from G1 and Maggie Madsen from the 2007 movie). The other aforementioned humans are copy-paste personality arch-types that I hate, and the same could be said of Jack here, but it's at least one that none of the other Transformers series never used yet (but prepare for them to use it to DEATH and beyond). He probably reacts to this as most of us would have, pissing himself in fear at the start, reluctant to get involved, then saying "F*&k this!" and going home. The part where this and reality diverge is when he returns to them to get himself into more of a clusterfkuc than if he had stayed home and played video games (which is what most of us would do, the playing video games bit I mean).

So the last thing to talk about before wrapping this up is what every good army needs, henchmen and lackeys. In this case the dime a dozen generic Decepticon clones (I like the term Decepticlone used in the Armada video game, so that is what I will use). Usually when you see a faceless lackey in any form of tv show or movie they get their hindquarter removed from their loin section and then returned to them after getting the trim and waist removed from it (sorry I'm just getting out of a college meat cutting course), and normally that is all they are supposed to do, just to make the good guys look even better. However this series takes that idea and smacks it across the face with it's big Cybertronian willy right away by having a two-on-two fight between a couple of Decepticlones and Arcee and Bumblebee. The fight proceeds to the point where the two Autobots are getting their metal asses recycled back to them, seriously, the faceless badguys have them on the ropes until the effing iron giant shows up. At that point the lackeys actually do something intelligent. They see that they're outnumbered and probably outmatched, and they bugger off! This to me was actually quite amazing and made me really anxious to see how a main character on main character fight would go. Sadly the show just teases our tenders with a couple of quick confrontations and no real fighting between main characters. An irritating, but clever way of getting us to want more.

In closing, this series has parts that I greatly enjoy and parts that make me want to s#!+ with such epic fury that all of my internal organs and some of my bones end up in the toilet. Thankfully the good outweighs the bad in this case and I will gladly tune in when the series begins proper. The way Hasbro presented this series was actually well done. Instead of immediately signing up for an entire first season, they test the waters with a short little bit of story that can just end right there or continue on. Very smart of them and very little risk too. If it was disliked they could have pulled the plug very quickly. I have good hopes for this series.

Now them I have a hard time making closing statements so I'm just going to stop now....
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby RodimusAscendant » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:01 pm

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At first I wasn't to keen on the series and I still dislike the animation. However It has grown on me and the animation is not a issue. I like the fact that the humans in this series are less annoying than in previous incarnations, at least IMO. The miniseries wrapped up pretty good and left me looking forward to more episodes hopefully coming in February 2011. I hope we haven't seen the end of Cliffjumper but who knows.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby JetOptimus23 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:28 pm

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Personally, i think they should keep Soundwave without a personality for a little while longer. I think he's more threatining that way as a complete Enigma. This Starscream is the best since the Unicron Trilogy. Megatron's voice is less like like a knife scraping on a large boulder and more like a deep rumble with an animalistic growl hidden underneath. The humans aren't so bad, except Miko. Bee is a bit dissapointing, but he's still a great fighter. The Eradicators actually last longer than most "Generics". They even give Arcee & BB a run for their money in pt 1. Cliff will come back. I'm looking foward to Brakedown & Knock Out later. And Dark Energon.


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Re: Personal Thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Stormer » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:38 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Not that anyone really cares what some random tosser thinks when they can go watch what people with youtube reviews thinks or when people with higher post counts than mine thinks, but I just felt like sharing my opinions of what we've seen in the miniseries that was presented to us. I also realize that there have probably been twenty dozen other people who's thoughts on this matter you've already gone through. Trust me though, my opinion is much more important (especially to my mother and I). Read it, ignore it, flame it, like it, reply to it, print it out make an effigy of me out of it and burn it with flaming projectile fecal matter, doesn't matter to me, I'm just putting this here because I like seeing my thoughts in textual form.


Uhh....I'm a little scared, but I'll read on...

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:In closing, this series has parts that I greatly enjoy and parts that make me want to s#!+ with such epic fury that all of my internal organs and some of my bones end up in the toilet. Thankfully the good outweighs the bad in this case and I will gladly tune in when the series begins proper. The way Hasbro presented this series was actually well done. Instead of immediately signing up for an entire first season, they test the waters with a short little bit of story that can just end right there or continue on. Very smart of them and very little risk too. If it was disliked they could have pulled the plug very quickly. I have good hopes for this series.


That was quite descriptive! Wonderful! Glad you, er, liked it for the most part...Thanks for your perspective. That was quite entertaining (that is how you meant it...right...)!
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Catalyst Prime » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:37 am

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So I just finished Part 5. Really liking it so far.

Not too happy with the character choices, same reasons that everyone else has stated.

But I am digging the animation and styling. I especially like the way Bulkhead and Arcee look.

Love the combat scenes, again especially Bulkheads, the bot is a real brute in this series. In part four when Bulkhead tells Miko to turn away and then rips out that drones internals was very cool...hell just about every fight scene in Part four was top notch.

About the only character that I don't like is Starscream, I hate the way he looks, he doesn't look sinister so much as decrepit and weak. And that red crest on his forehead makes him look kinda like a rooster...

I like Soundwave's (so far) lack of personality, kinda what I'd expect of a master of sabotage and infiltration.

The kids aren't bad. Though Miko is rather annoying at times.

The whole Zombie thing is awesome, kinda makes me wish WFC had a zombie mode...
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby swarlock » Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:20 pm

Welker had to tone it down a bit because he forgot how to do it.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby StarFire689 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:28 pm

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I still have some mix feeling about the show but I'm liking it so far. I love the darker story and the Zombies.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Diem » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:33 am

Really? I don't get it. I just don't get it.

This show seems impossibly derivative and insipid. The visual style seems weak, both from a technical and a creative perspective. None of the characters are engaging off the bat, except for cheap echoes of the personalities that they have cribbed from older, better, Transformers shows. There was, quite literally, nothing original about the first few episodes of this show.

There is a certain level of grimdark going on but that means nothing without good writing. Essentially this show is, by no means, bad. "Not bad" would be my chief way of describing it. But there is nothing outstanding, interesting or desirable about this show. There is nothing that makes it compelling to watch. It really does feel like a little bit of G1, a little bit of Animated, a hint of Movieverse and a smidgen of Beast Wars were mixed in a bowl but that nothing new was added.

I am no kind of strawman. If you are enjoying this show I would genuinely welcome your attempts to set me straight. I would like to like this show. Unfortunately it is so impossibly hollow I can't enjoy it.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:27 am

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Will add my voice to the unimpressed crowd...but not disinterested...yet.

The whole formulaic element is there in both ways:The graphics are sweet for the tiny population of Bots, the kids are as different as can be within a certain formula (but I'm cool with them), the dialogue is just fine (no complaints).

I dislike the look of each of the named Decepticons, especially the cheapass attempt at Starscreams 'scary' waspiness and Megatrons 'scary' fangs and eyes. The Decep soldiers are neat enough to get my vote to stay this cool in future realities.

The Autobots...4 complaints:1) Arcee is too big in Bot mode for my tastes,2)Bulkheads AltMode doesn't do his Animated variant justice, 3)Cliffjumpers Altmode was a really poor effort (even tho it wasn't CJ to me but a redshirt with a marquee name and 4) I'm pretty much done with watching the new super Bumblebee do things that I should be watching Bluestreak,Silverstreak,Smokescreen,Prowl and company doing.It's the 3rd series in a row and it's gotten old for me.In Armada, Smokescreen the stunt driver was a crane and Sideswipe was a rookie, and this is just as much of a let down for my anticipations.

I'm a little sceptical of the whole Zombie army theme (makes me feel like everyone in showbiz will go to the Vampyre fad to feel safe about sales predictions), but at least it's a new direction for TF televised storyboards.

I wasn't against Orci and the other bloke for the stuff-ups in Rotf, I had squarely blamed Bay, stating he had specifically ordered the import of Arcee and the Twins, which so much has been said and done about. I saw posts shifting the blame onto them much later, and still wasn't swayed in my point of view, until the whole undead thing. Now I wonder: The heart of Cybertron needed to shut down for a million years to reboot after the last Dark Energon attack, as soon as it's time to reawaken, these two writers zombify everything.Are they eally clusterfks after all, or do they have the Midas touch?

I'm assuming I'll end up liking the series when it's vintage.For now, I'm hoping that this doesn't happen: Cybertron goes Zombie and Unicron arrives to save the day in a big end fight like in A/E/C. It would be the same story reversed, replacing the Minicon 'child' factor with the undead 'adult' factor: Too lazy for my personal expectations.I'm pretty sure it'll be something better than that, tho, but I automatically disrespect anyone who wants to tell a 'new' TF story and jumps straight to Unicron.

On the other hand, I can see Junkion getting a part to play in the Zombie plague...

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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby DoctorZero986 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:31 pm

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Based off of the premier, I thought the show was pretty good. I agree that Bumblebee not having a voice is kind of stupid and I don't even think they explained why he can't talk. At least in the first movie he couldn't because Megatron damaged his voice processor in the prequel comics. I think they kept him like that in the second movie because people liked him when he didn't talk, though it created a plot hole since it was never explained why it stopped working.
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Re: My own honest thoughts on Transformers Prime

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:44 pm

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DoctorZero986 wrote:Based off of the premier, I thought the show was pretty good. I agree that Bumblebee not having a voice is kind of stupid and I don't even think they explained why he can't talk. At least in the first movie he couldn't because Megatron damaged his voice processor in the prequel comics. I think they kept him like that in the second movie because people liked him when he didn't talk, though it created a plot hole since it was never explained why it stopped working.
He lost his voice in the Exodus novel too, which is another prequel to this series in addition to War For Cybertron.
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