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Unless he gets a Warrior figure, Underbite shall be the only one of these I'll get.

Ever since I bought one step heicopter drift, I have looked less down upon these 1 steps. They may be for a younger audience but that doesnt make their engineering any less impressive than other classes. It's just a bit harder to appreciate.

If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.

william-james88 wrote:Ever since I bought one step heicopter drift, I have looked less down upon these 1 steps. They may be for a younger audience but that doesnt make their engineering any less impressive than other classes. It's just a bit harder to appreciate.

If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.

I currently own 3 one-steppers. AoE Grimlock I bought on a lark because I wanted to see how these things work. Rollbar I got because I drive a Sonic and he is a Sonic. Then I got AoE Prowl because I just love Prowl.

The 2 cars aren't super impressive from an engineering standpoint, since you just fold the legs from the front to the back and let the roof flap fall down. FYI - that's what Sidewipe is in the RID line. I can tell from the pictures.

The Grimlock, though, is just a tiny little engineering marvel. I often grab him and slowly watch all the little parts move into place for the transformation. It's really cool.

I looked at the one-stepper for RID Bee and I am kinda thinking about limiting myself to just the OSCs for RID, but with Combiner Wars coming, I just can't throw all my money at toys, so I am unsure.

william-james88 wrote:If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.

Strong arm was my least favorite. I really wanted to like under bite but his transformation of squeezing his rear legs together works very poorly and is difficult to stay transformed. Sideswipe uses same flip transformation as AOE drift but I'm kind of over that because it was so inventive the first time around. Which leaves me with bumblebee. He's a good toy for a 1 step but tell me that his robot mode doesn't scream a Rodimus repaint!

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william-james88 wrote:If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.

Strong arm was my least favorite. I really wanted to like under bite but his transformation of squeezing his rear legs together works very poorly and is difficult to stay transformed. Sideswipe uses same flip transformation as AOE drift but I'm kind of over that because it was so inventive the first time around. Which leaves me with bumblebee. He's a good toy for a 1 step but tell me that his robot mode doesn't scream a Rodimus repaint!

Thanks Seibertron. And check out your one step helicopter drift when you have a chance. He seems to be better than all of those from the way you describe them.

Prowlerglide wrote:The 2 cars aren't super impressive from an engineering standpoint, since you just fold the legs from the front to the back and let the roof flap fall down. FYI - that's what Sidewipe is in the RID line. I can tell from the pictures.

The fun with the car mold from the Drift transformation is that you can transform them with a flick of the wrist. You can transform it by folding the legs back and letting the roof flap fall down but that's boring. Flick your wrist when you want to transform it and watch the magic happen before your eyes. That's how Hasbro demonstrated the Drift 1-Step at Toy Fair last year and it sold me. Simple and fun. It's a one handed transformation which is pretty awesome. I'd love to find a video of someone demonstrating this instead of using two hands to transform those molds.

Seibertron wrote:I'd love to find a video of someone demonstrating this instead of using two hands to transform those molds.

Ask and thou shalt receive.

One-handed car to robot conversion:


One-handed robot to car conversion:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I'd love to find a video of someone demonstrating this instead of using two hands to transform those molds.

Ask and thou shalt receive.

One-handed car to robot conversion:


One-handed robot to car conversion:

and that is the fun of that toy! Thanks Sabrblade!!!

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Robots In Disguise Tiny Titans

Wait... Tiny Titans? A new size class/line? You bet! New collectible figurines with collector cards, to boot!

That's not all, remember how this is the sequel to Prime and part of the "Aligned" continuity? (Also shared with War For Cybertron and Fall Of Cybertron) Remember how Cliffjumper died in Darkness Rising? Well, you'll see that these RID Tiny Titans include a Cliffjumper! What could that hold for the future? We'll have to wait and see!

Until then, check out the galleries on these little guys and then come back to the forum discussion of the show itself to see what effect this has on everything, and you can share your thoughts on all of it, right here.

Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Optimus Prime




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Bisk




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Thunderhoof




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Hammerstrike




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Cliffjumper




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Prowl




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Sideswipe




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Underbite




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Grimlock




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Strongarm




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Bumblebee




Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Steeljaw



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Now that we've seen all the new characters in their Tiny Titans form including, Bisk, Thunderhoof, Hammerstrike, Prowl, and Cliffjumper, will we ever see the Warrior-class figures for all of these characters given above? Don't forget, Steeljaw is the only Decepticon so far that already has a W arrior figure. Therefore, please don't tell us we'll never get a Warrior-class figures for all these brand-new characters, just because kids do hate the Decepticons and love all the Autobots. Because I tell you that almost every single kid really do enjoyed all of these figures, no matter if they are Autobots or Decepticons.

Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions. Prowl's gray is likely due to his toy being gang-molded with Bumblebee, Underbite, and Grimlock, with the intention of probably having his body painted white like how Bee's got yellow paint, but it didn't happen for some reason.

As for the rest, Optimus, Bisk, Sideswipe, and Cliffjumper all seem gang-molded in red, while Strongarm, Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Hammerstrike all look gang-molded in blue.

That tiny Bisk is adorable. Don't like the other ones.

Minimal paint apps, no articulation, awkward poses... not much to like about these. These make the Robot Heroes line look like Masterpieces by comparison.

Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions. Prowl's gray is likely due to his toy being gang-molded with Bumblebee, Underbite, and Grimlock, with the intention of probably having his body painted white like how Bee's got yellow paint, but it didn't happen for some reason.

As for the rest, Optimus, Bisk, Sideswipe, and Cliffjumper all seem gang-molded in red, while Strongarm, Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Hammerstrike all look gang-molded in blue.

Got you covered in the galleries already from when I noticed this while working on the galleries, Sabrblade!

GuyIncognito wrote:Minimal paint apps, no articulation, awkward poses... not much to like about these. These make the Robot Heroes line look like Masterpieces by comparison.

Not to mention their size!

Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.

What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.

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Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.

What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.

Pretty sure they killed him just so the viewers would understand that the Decepticons were a threat, to the point where even the faceless lackeys were about to finish off Bumblebee and Arcee before Bulkhead showed up.

Then that AAAALLLLL went out the window too, to the point where Bumblebee and Arcee could mow through 50 Vehicons without effort and Starscream became a whiny coward.

They also might have just killed Cliffjumper because The Rock is an expensive actor. It's like he charges per-word he speaks unless it's a movie deal.

Am I the only one who's reminded of a certain BotCon figures with one of these titans?

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Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.

What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.

For all we know Cliffjumper could be just someone Optimus runs into during his mission in the afterlife and perhaps team up with each other for a while. It's a possible idea so why don't we see if Cliff manages to appear on the show at all first?

Not that anything is impossible with this stuff, but I feel like it is a bit much to design RiD versions of Prowl and Cliffjumper and there not be a point to it. Here's hoping there's a point to it.

I guess for me it doesn't matter from a toy/collecting perspective as all I purchase is Masterpiece figures, anymore. Over the years I've made kind of a mess of things collecting Prowls and Magnuses, so when there's a new one shown I at least look at them.

sol magnus wrote:Not that anything is impossible with this stuff, but I feel like it is a bit much to design RiD versions of Prowl and Cliffjumper and there not be a point to it. Here's hoping there's a point to it.

I guess for me it doesn't matter from a toy/collecting perspective as all I purchase is Masterpiece figures, anymore. Over the years I've made kind of a mess of things collecting Prowls and Magnuses, so when there's a new one shown I at least look at them.

As much as I doubt it, I do wish in my heart of hearts that Prowl could make an appearance. I've always liked his look in spite of his tendency towards prickishness in recent media. Maybe as Strongarm's senior officer/instructor who she looks up to more than Bee?

I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).

Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.

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GuyIncognito wrote:Minimal paint apps, no articulation, awkward poses... not much to like about these. These make the Robot Heroes line look like Masterpieces by comparison.

Not to mention their size!

Heh, I've got a Prowl eraser somewhere (I think I got it Christmas 84... holy **** 30 years ago...) that's larger and more detailed than these.

And if they had to mold Prowl out of gray plastic, probably should have made him Bluestreak.

Optimum Supreme wrote:I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).

Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.

I'm right there with you. I think it's silly that they even tried to tie what was obviously a G1 expansion story (or reinterpretation) with Transformers Prime. It has felt extremely forced since the moment they said something along the lines of "hey, chocolate chip cookies are great dipped in IPA Beer!" No thanks! I really wish they had worked with IDW to have the WFC/FOC games tie-in with the IDW comics instead. The aesthetics and personalities and history of the characters would have flowed much better if they had just ironed out the details instead of forcing Transformers Prime onto WFC/FOC.

Hell, they couldn't even really keep Rescue Bots as part of the main Transformers Prime continuity without really squinting your eyes after a few drinks and pretend a lot.

I called BS when they first announced that TFP, Rescue Bots and WFC were part of the same continuity. They can try all they want, but it just doesn't work at the end of the day. More so because of Hasbro ... storytelling and congruent continuity just isn't their specialty. Making toys and marketing is their specialty. Trying to keep all of these different facets of the Transformers brand congruent amongst changing employees and rapidly changing brand strategies a midst fierce competition is difficult. I commend them for trying, but wish they'd stick to what they do best.

On the flipside though, this reminds me of the various G1 micro-continuities that exist with the Find Your Own Adventure books, the kiddie-Marvel Books, the Marvel US Transformers comics, the Marvel UK Transformers comics, the G1 cartoon, and so on. At the end of the day, as much as we want to think Transformers is the greatest thing since sliced bread, any books, comics, cartoons, game, etc serve one sole purpose with Transformers and that is to sell more toys. Bottom line, end of story. Anything else that we get, as much as we try to believe it to be something greater, is just to fulfill that purpose. As soon as the toys die out, just like they did in the early 90s, the media facets and expanded universe type things that we get will die out as well.

On that note, I simply try to just enjoy whatever iterations that we have of the Transformers, regardless if it fits perfectly into any one overall continuity. I would rather have had WFC, Rescue Bots and Transformers Prime just been there own thing. If fans draw connections on their own, that's one thing, but to have Hasbro say "they're all part of the same continuity", that's where I'm calling BS because they didn't do that with G1, but we're fine with just taking it or leaving it with that stuff.

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Optimum Supreme wrote:I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).

Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.

I'm right there with you. I think it's silly that they even tried to tie what was obviously a G1 expansion story (or reinterpretation) with Transformers Prime. It has felt extremely forced since the moment they said something along the lines of "hey, chocolate chip cookies are great dipped in IPA Beer!" No thanks! I really wish they had worked with IDW to have the WFC/FOC games tie-in with the IDW comics instead. The aesthetics and personalities and history of the characters would have flowed much better if they had just ironed out the details instead of forcing Transformers Prime onto WFC/FOC.

At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.