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News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:00 am

that's a sweet looking jet.. now on with the bot pics!!

News Credits: 2 · by **tacogrande** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:29 am

oreillyrel wrote:
tacogrande wrote:And in defense of toon people like myself, the MP line set itself up as toon accurate with MP Prime, then switched over to a sort of alternators type line. Screamer was disappointing, but so far skywarp doesn't look nearly as bad.

Part of the reason for the change is the critique Takara received from its customer base on MP-1 Convoy's unrealistic alt mode. For its customer base, cartoon "accuracy" has to be more balanced with realism. We're seeing the result in the last two molds. Of course, Takara overcorrected (or miscorrected) in MP-2 Starscream, and both molds still have their share of unrealistic points (MP-5 Megatron's size), but the designs of the last two molds were directly affected by the feedback on the first one.

That's a shame, but if it was such a problem how come MP-01 got a second release, MP-04 was the same figure with a trailer, and MP-02 was just a repaint? Obviously the figure sold well anyway, if I were Takara I would told them to shut up and like it.

by **oreillyrel** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:04 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:There is something wrong with the world when JAPAN starts messing up the paint schemes and Hasbro has to fix it!?!

This is not the first time that Takara chose a more "realistic" color scheme while Hasbro chose a more comic/cartoon "accurate" color scheme. It's been happening for over two decades. Compare the 1985 Takara Astrotrain with the 1985 Hasbro Astrotrain. (Ironically, Takara would create a limited new "anime" color scheme in 2004, while Hasbro would re-issue the 1985 Takara version in 2005 instead.)

by **oreillyrel** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:05 pm

Creature SH wrote:I'm usually not too pedantic about color schemes, but it's a bit of a touchy thing when it comes to the seekers. Their color defines which one they are. If you change the color scheme, you might as well give them a new name to go with that.

MP-6 will be black and silver, with purple trim in robot mode. Who else could it be?

by **oreillyrel** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:08 pm

tacogrande wrote:
oreillyrel wrote:
tacogrande wrote:And in defense of toon people like myself, the MP line set itself up as toon accurate with MP Prime, then switched over to a sort of alternators type line. Screamer was disappointing, but so far skywarp doesn't look nearly as bad.

Part of the reason for the change is the critique Takara received from its customer base on MP-1 Convoy's unrealistic alt mode. For its customer base, cartoon "accuracy" has to be more balanced with realism. We're seeing the result in the last two molds. Of course, Takara overcorrected (or miscorrected) in MP-2 Starscream, and both molds still have their share of unrealistic points (MP-5 Megatron's size), but the designs of the last two molds were directly affected by the feedback on the first one.

That's a shame, but if it was such a problem how come MP-01 got a second release, MP-04 was the same figure with a trailer, and MP-02 was just a repaint? Obviously the figure sold well anyway, if I were Takara I would told them to shut up and like it.

Color changes are easy. Mold changes are not. Takara couldn't remold Convoy cost-effectively, but it could apply feedback to newer molds before they're made.

News Credits: 1 · by **Creature SH** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:08 pm

oreillyrel wrote:MP-6 will be black and silver, with purple trim in robot mode. Who else could it be?

Well, yeah, Skywarp seems close enough, actually.

I just fell into the whole Starscream discussion because I wasn't partaking the first time 'round. :grin:

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:55 pm

Im hoping that this is a test shot type figure, Skywarp just isnt right without some Purple highlights.

Still a plain black jet sure is a lot nicer than what Starscream copped.

by **Zombie Starscream** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:59 pm

Daxmajor wrote:
Scaleface wrote:An actual F-15 is 1944 centimeters long, or 63.8 feet. I poked around the web and found this toy is 13 inches long. That's a scale of about 1/59 scale! Of course Starscream was usually depicted as standing merely about 30 feet tall in the TV series.

The 'bot mode is 1/24 scale. Mass shifting lives on.

I really like the look of Skywarp so far. Already a much better colour scheme than MP Starscream.

1/24 in scale, Hmmm... :-?

That would make him stand 18 ft tall in robot mode, right? Or does my math just suck

by **Daxmajor** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:46 am

Zombie Starscream wrote:
Daxmajor wrote:
Scaleface wrote:An actual F-15 is 1944 centimeters long, or 63.8 feet. I poked around the web and found this toy is 13 inches long. That's a scale of about 1/59 scale! Of course Starscream was usually depicted as standing merely about 30 feet tall in the TV series.

The 'bot mode is 1/24 scale. Mass shifting lives on.

I really like the look of Skywarp so far. Already a much better colour scheme than MP Starscream.
1/24 in scale, Hmmm... That would make him stand 18 ft tall in robot mode, right? Or does my math just suck

Indeed, 18ft to the top of his head is about right.