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deaduniverse wrote:I want war for cybertron trypticon. I want it to be a quadruple changer: dinosaur, satellite, base, and decepticon warship. please vote for Trypticon, with energon veins.

That would be amazing, perhaps this could happen, after all the last Metroplex had a lot of WFC influences.

padfoo wrote:

deaduniverse wrote:I want war for cybertron trypticon. I want it to be a quadruple changer: dinosaur, satellite, base, and decepticon warship. please vote for Trypticon, with energon veins.

That would be amazing, perhaps this could happen, after all the last Metroplex had a lot of WFC influences.

I think it was supposed to be foc metroplex wasn't it? It just didn't really look like it, if that was the plan.

padfoo wrote:

deaduniverse wrote:I want war for cybertron trypticon. I want it to be a quadruple changer: dinosaur, satellite, base, and decepticon warship. please vote for Trypticon, with energon veins.

That would be amazing, perhaps this could happen, after all the last Metroplex had a lot of WFC influences.

I wish. That size, def could do stuff for a quad changer that would work out. Plus FoC had great designs and voices, So I would be perfectly good with that

Clearly the correct answer is DO THEM ALL! GIVE THEM ALL TO ME NOW!

But if I had to choose, I'd say Trypticon. Metroplex needs his rival, and we already have a pretty good Scorponok from the club, as well as that Platinum edition WFC-esque Omega Supreme.

Henry921 wrote:Clearly the correct answer is DO THEM ALL! GIVE THEM ALL TO ME NOW!

But if I had to choose, I'd say Trypticon. Metroplex needs his rival, and we already have a pretty good Scorponok from the club, as well as that Platinum edition WFC-esque Omega Supreme.

Boy, that poor scorponok is gonna get all kinds of squished by the new fort max

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Henry921 wrote:Clearly the correct answer is DO THEM ALL! GIVE THEM ALL TO ME NOW!

But if I had to choose, I'd say Trypticon. Metroplex needs his rival, and we already have a pretty good Scorponok from the club, as well as that Platinum edition WFC-esque Omega Supreme.

Boy, that poor scorponok is gonna get all kinds of squished by the new fort max

Not with this guy around...

megatronus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Henry921 wrote:Clearly the correct answer is DO THEM ALL! GIVE THEM ALL TO ME NOW!

But if I had to choose, I'd say Trypticon. Metroplex needs his rival, and we already have a pretty good Scorponok from the club, as well as that Platinum edition WFC-esque Omega Supreme.

Boy, that poor scorponok is gonna get all kinds of squished by the new fort max

Not with this guy around...

Oh, yeah, him

Hellscream9999 wrote:Oh, yeah, him

I'll take your and raise you

megatronus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Oh, yeah, him

I'll take your and raise you

Ah, touche

padfoo wrote:

deaduniverse wrote:I want war for cybertron trypticon. I want it to be a quadruple changer: dinosaur, satellite, base, and decepticon warship. please vote for Trypticon, with energon veins.

That would be amazing, perhaps this could happen, after all the last Metroplex had a lot of WFC influences.

What else besides its head was FOC-based?


Though, WFC Trypticon wasn't the same size as FOC Metroplex. According to the game designers, Metroplex was vastly larger than both Trypticon and Omega Supreme. He had no equal.

I'm hoping Hastak already started on a new Omega Supreme. Haven't had one since G1.

Sabrblade wrote:

padfoo wrote:

deaduniverse wrote:I want war for cybertron trypticon. I want it to be a quadruple changer: dinosaur, satellite, base, and decepticon warship. please vote for Trypticon, with energon veins.

That would be amazing, perhaps this could happen, after all the last Metroplex had a lot of WFC influences.

What else besides its head was FOC-based?


Though, WFC Trypticon wasn't the same size as FOC Metroplex. According to the game designers, Metroplex was vastly larger than both Trypticon and Omega Supreme. He had no equal.

Sabrblade, its really difficult to say how big exactly Trypticon was in comparison to Metroplex. One thing is certain Trypticon was at least twice the size of Omega supreme in FOC. He turned into the nemesis and in the game the Nemesis is shown bigger than the Ark. The entire first level takes place in and around the Ark and its massive. In the game Metroplex is shown standing close to the Ark and even though he is bigger because he is in the background, the difference is not substantial. Its not 100% clear any where but I would say Trypticon and Metroplex are similar in size, with Metroplex being taller, but Trypticon carrying a lot of bulk because of his tail and body shape. Omega Supreme would be about half of Trypticons height and a third of Metroplex's. Lots of fun speculation!
I inserted these images form a previous discussion on TFW about size comparisons.

This last image has Trypticon at over 600 feet tall which in my opinion is a little big. I feel like he would be around 450 feet with Metroplex being over 600 feet tall.

Here is another image link discussing the many different sizes of Metroplex. In this link he is suggested at over 600ft with his IDW counterpart being 692ft.

padfoo wrote:Sabrblade, its really difficult to say how big exactly Trypticon was in comparison to Metroplex. One thing is certain Trypticon was at least twice the size of Omega supreme in FOC.

The only time Trypticon and Omega Supreme were onscreen together in either game was when they were grappling with each other during WFC's end credits, in which Trypticon was shown to be only about a head taller than Omega Supreme:

At the 1:57-2:00 mark

padfoo wrote:He turned into the nemesis and in the game the Nemesis is shown bigger than the Ark.

That's backwards. FOC showed the Nemesis to be smaller than the Ark:

padfoo wrote:The entire first level takes place in and around the Ark and its massive. In the game Metroplex is shown standing close to the Ark and even though he is bigger because he is in the background, the difference is not substantial. Its not 100% clear any where but I would say Trypticon and Metroplex are similar in size, with Metroplex being taller, but Trypticon carrying a lot of bulk because of his tail and body shape. Omega Supreme would be about half of Trypticons height and a third of Metroplex's.

As I said, the WFC end credits show Omega and Tryppy to be of comparable height, and for Metroplex's size I'm just going by what the game creators said when they spoke of Metroplex's size in this video discussion, in which they said that Metroplex is "about two and a half times the size of Omega Supreme" (20:55-21:07).

I'm just happy the 4 are on the list which means all 4 are in the works

I can't speak for more recent sources but the vintage ones had Metroplex as 598 foot tall.

The way the Generations ones has such contradictory sizing cues makes him as bad as a the JJ-prise for size cues.

Metroplex's toy has windows that show robots in as tiny - yet his repair bay is sized for a normal car toy he has windows on him that is they were normal windows would make him seems even bigger than the cockpit windows do.

I suppose the way I would prefer to look at the toy is to presume that rather than the repair bays being small bays for a single car they are ones for two rows of cars and the mini figure vehicles are more or less the correct size for him.

However there is plenty to suggest that in terms of scale there isn't much difference between G1 Metroplex and Generations Metroplex - it's just the original is scaled to Special teams and the new one is scaled (in part) for Legends and/or Deluxes.

Or at least his repair bays take a deluxe.. wilfully confusing perhaps - and he's a toy that really is asking you to engage your imagination.

I'm with team trypticon on this one. I love Omega Supreme, but honestly, Trypticon's a freaking robot godzilla dinosaur, so I can't necessarily argue with that. Plus I think we need more decepticons.

Sabrblade wrote:

padfoo wrote:Sabrblade, its really difficult to say how big exactly Trypticon was in comparison to Metroplex. One thing is certain Trypticon was at least twice the size of Omega supreme in FOC.

The only time Trypticon and Omega Supreme were onscreen together in either game was when they were grappling with each other during WFC's end credits, in which Trypticon was shown to be only about a head taller than Omega Supreme:

At the 1:57-2:00 mark

padfoo wrote:He turned into the nemesis and in the game the Nemesis is shown bigger than the Ark.

That's backwards. FOC showed the Nemesis to be smaller than the Ark:

padfoo wrote:The entire first level takes place in and around the Ark and its massive. In the game Metroplex is shown standing close to the Ark and even though he is bigger because he is in the background, the difference is not substantial. Its not 100% clear any where but I would say Trypticon and Metroplex are similar in size, with Metroplex being taller, but Trypticon carrying a lot of bulk because of his tail and body shape. Omega Supreme would be about half of Trypticons height and a third of Metroplex's.

As I said, the WFC end credits show Omega and Tryppy to be of comparable height, and for Metroplex's size I'm just going by what the game creators said when they spoke of Metroplex's size in this video discussion, in which they said that Metroplex is "about two and a half times the size of Omega Supreme" (20:55-21:07).

I will argue that the ripped models from the game are a better sense of scale than the credits. High Moon was pretty much screwing around for the end credits so any thing in those don't give a good sense of scale for them since a model can easily be scaled up and down. I doubt if we get Trypitcon the most he'll have from WFC/FOC is voice clips unless they decide to replace the battle station mode with the Nemesis.

Sabrblade wrote:

padfoo wrote:Sabrblade, its really difficult to say how big exactly Trypticon was in comparison to Metroplex. One thing is certain Trypticon was at least twice the size of Omega supreme in FOC.

The only time Trypticon and Omega Supreme were onscreen together in either game was when they were grappling with each other during WFC's end credits, in which Trypticon was shown to be only about a head taller than Omega Supreme:

At the 1:57-2:00 mark


Yes but a few seconds later the entire Autobot team steps out of Bumblebee. The end credits were simple for entertainment, they blew scale out the window!

padfoo wrote:He turned into the nemesis and in the game the Nemesis is shown bigger than the Ark.

That's backwards. FOC showed the Nemesis to be smaller than the Ark:



You are correct the Ark is definitely correct it is much bulkier than the nemesis.

padfoo wrote:The entire first level takes place in and around the Ark and its massive. In the game Metroplex is shown standing close to the Ark and even though he is bigger because he is in the background, the difference is not substantial. Its not 100% clear any where but I would say Trypticon and Metroplex are similar in size, with Metroplex being taller, but Trypticon carrying a lot of bulk because of his tail and body shape. Omega Supreme would be about half of Trypticons height and a third of Metroplex's.

As I said, the WFC end credits show Omega and Tryppy to be of comparable height, and for Metroplex's size I'm just going by what the game creators said when they spoke of Metroplex's size in this video discussion, in which they said that Metroplex is "about two and a half times the size of Omega Supreme" (20:55-21:07).

Again you are correct, it is clearly stated that Plex is 2.5 times Omega's height. I rest my case, great research, I forgot about the is video.

Fiction or no, Trypticon should clearly be a mish-mash of continuities in classic Generations style.

To me, that means:

-As large as Metroplex in Kaiju mode
-Alt-mode #1: Nemesis
-Alt-mode #2: City/Battle Station

megatronus wrote:Fiction or no, Trypticon should clearly be a mish-mash of continuities in classic Generations style.

To me, that means:

-As large as Metroplex in Kaiju mode
-Alt-mode #1: Nemesis
-Alt-mode #2: City/Battle Station

I would think if they did him, he would be a bit shorter since he does have the extra mass of the tail though. I still want him though, and the triple changer thing you have here would be a good one

The way Hasbro operates, if they decide to do Tripticon, it'll probably just be a repaint if that large Optimus dinosaur thing from rescue bots.

Sorry, double post cause I'm tired.

Ironhidensh wrote:The way Hasbro operates, if they decide to do Tripticon, it'll probably just be a repaint if that large Optimus dinosaur thing from rescue bots.

NO!

I am voting Omega, he is the only one who's transformation I cannot imagine with modern toy engineering. The other two while awesome are very basic and I dont think will change much from their G1 selves aside from scale.

william-james88 wrote:I am voting Omega, he is the only one who's transformation I cannot imagine with modern toy engineering. The other two while awesome are very basic and I dont think will change much from their G1 selves aside from scale.

Well, it's more the fact that we kinda want a Trypticon, I know where you are coming from, but I always wanted a war within tryp and now, I need a wfc tryp even more

It's sad, 'cuz I would have been happier with voyager versions of either, and they probably would have been better quality for it (less hollow, etc.)