The Energon Pub

by **Autobot Dash** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:10 pm

Hasbro should divide the movie toy line in Adults and Childrens.
All mix it's not a good idea, because they don't do very detailed and complex toys, and in the same time, not so simple as might be.
It turns out that does not do very well in either sides.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:15 pm

I dont know if you guys noticed on the parts identification thread or the toy haul thread but I love buying used lots of transformer toys. I can just see the pain this will be in the years to come to try to weed out all these simpler more kid oriented toys from the others if I still buy lots then. I am already having a tough time with the fast action battlers so I can only imagine.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:19 pm

Autobot Dash wrote:Hasbro should divide the movie toy line in Adults and Childrens.
All mix it's not a good idea, because they don't do very detailed and complex toys, and in the same time, not so simple as might be.
It turns out that does not do very well in either sides.

They already did, with the gimmicky "Robots in Disguise" toys and the more complex "Generations Series M4" for the older kids (8+ instead of the usual 5+) and collectors. The Generations toys are of the "traditional" style, including the Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Classes.

by **Observedhalo** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:24 pm

Optimus Prime's colors are way of, especially on the legs and chest. Also, what happend to that rear fuel canister chrome?

by **autobot1979** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:26 pm

If Generations are meant to adults collectors why don't we have all the Decepticons in this Generations Line? It's so frustrating for me as a collector to have just Autobots. We deserve more respect from Hasbro.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:33 pm

autobot1979 wrote:If Generations are meant to adults collectors why don't we have all the Decepticons in this Generations Line? It's so frustrating for me as a collector to have just Autobots. We deserve more respect from Hasbro.

What Decepticons are you talking about?

And, no, we DON'T deserve anything from Hasbro. We are not their target audience. The fact that they're even bothering to think about us older fans at all is a generous mercy unto itself.

by **Observedhalo** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:33 pm

autobot1979 wrote:If Generations are meant to adults collectors why don't we have all the Decepticons in this Generations Line? It's so frustrating for me as a collector to have just Autobots. We deserve more respect from Hasbro.

I for one want leader class lockdown, Galvatron and Junkheap. Junkheap should be leader so he can split into three deluxe sized drones. Lockdown should have a Deluxe sized vehicle mode and a leader sized robot mode, and have all his weapons and mask. Maybe we will get the Vehicons in later waves, of in the interim years.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:34 pm

autobot1979 wrote:If Generations are meant to adults collectors why don't we have all the Decepticons in this Generations Line? It's so frustrating for me as a collector to have just Autobots. We deserve more respect from Hasbro.

They're there, but they're in later waves:

Voyager
Galvatron

Deluxe
Lockdown
Stinger? (details on him are iffy at best)

Remember, they only count when the robot mode appears in the movie.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:37 pm

Observedhalo wrote:Maybe we will get the Vehicons in later waves, of in the interim years.

What Vehicons? Those things that didn't even appear in the movie?

They might have been based on the Cemetary Wind cars, but they just toy-only 1 Step Changers.

by **Observedhalo** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:38 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Observedhalo wrote:Maybe we will get the Vehicons in later waves, of in the interim years.
What Vehicons? Those things that didn't even appear in the movie?

They might have been based on the Cemetary Wind cars, but they just toy-only 1 Step Changers.

I meant the human made Decepticons. Everyone was calling them Vehicons before the movie came out and it stuck with me, them being drones and all.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:40 pm

ScottyP wrote:I'd love an original mold Drift Triple-Changer too but you know we'll just end up with a blue/black Springer repaint.

I don't think triple changers, bayformer aesthetics, and liscensed alt-modes would necessarily add up to a great toy.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:43 pm

Observedhalo wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Observedhalo wrote:Maybe we will get the Vehicons in later waves, of in the interim years.
What Vehicons? Those things that didn't even appear in the movie?

They might have been based on the Cemetary Wind cars, but they just toy-only 1 Step Changers.

I meant the human made Decepticons. Everyone was calling them Vehicons before the movie came out and it stuck with me, them being drones and all.

Having watched the movie twice, there are three things that those manmade TFs are called in the movie itself: "KSI's newest civilian prototype robots" (by a KSI staff member), "Prototypes" (by one of the main cast humans), and "Brothers" (by Galvatron). Surprisingly, not even the word "Decepticons" is used to refer to them.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:44 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Observedhalo wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Observedhalo wrote:Maybe we will get the Vehicons in later waves, of in the interim years.
What Vehicons? Those things that didn't even appear in the movie?

They might have been based on the Cemetary Wind cars, but they just toy-only 1 Step Changers.

I meant the human made Decepticons. Everyone was calling them Vehicons before the movie came out and it stuck with me, them being drones and all.
Having watched the movie twice, there are three things that those manmade TFs are called in the movie itself: "KSI's newest civilian prototype robots" (by a KSI staff member), "Prototypes" (by one of the main cast humans), and "Brothers" (by Galvatron). Surprisingly, not even the word "Decepticons" is used to refer to them.

Would that mean "Decepticons" is merely used as a Marketing tool? The faction is a lie! :lol:

News Credits: 86 · by **ScoutBumblebee** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:52 pm

Courtesy of Seibertron, we have in-hand images of the Stomp and Chomp Grimlock. This is a huge, 20" Grimlock figure with lights and sounds, and features a one step conversion and pop out weapons. Also included is a small Optimus Prime figure who can interact with Grimlock.

Check out pictures below, including a size comparison shot to a few other Transformers toys to give you an idea of scale! This is a pretty sizable figure.

Would you buy this figure? Tell us why or why not in the Energon Pub!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:58 pm

When the eventually Stomp & Chomp Grimlock gallery goes up, I wonder if we'll get to see height comparison pics of the toy with Fort Max and Generations Metroplex.

by **autobot1979** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:03 pm

I didn't see the film yet , I am going tomorrow for the open release here in Scotland with my girlfriend. But if Galvatron that's Megatron call them "brothers", I assume these brothers are DECEPTICONS!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:08 pm

autobot1979 wrote:I didn't see the film yet , I am going tomorrow for the open release here in Scotland with my girlfriend. But if Galvatron that's Megatron call them "brothers", I assume these brothers are DECEPTICONS!

Not even Galvatron is called a Decepticon in the movie.

If they must be called anything, best term to refer to them in general (meaning both before and after the climax of the film) would be "the Prototypes".

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:11 pm

And who says the "Galvatron = Megatron" rule has to apply to every continuity? BWII Galvatron wasn't BW Megatron, was he?

http://www.youtube.com/user/KirbyForce1 · by **KirbyForce1** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:12 pm

Baltmatrix already reviewed this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1obNakU3dew

Here's someone else's video showing off some of the features:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZVezH3XzSw

by **autobot1979** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:33 pm

I know not always Galvatron is Megatron, but in this movie it is! Galvatron is Megatron so is the leader of the Decepticosn.
And He was the most evil in the first film as an Alien JEt, He was wicked.
I would love if they back His vehicle mode to some thing like that.
Is too boring an earth truck for Galvatron. This truck should have been Motormaster for sure.

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:09 pm

Cyberpath wrote:So, do you think AoE Prime (the new design) will get a better toy than the Leader Class and First Edition ones in the not too distant future? (Considering the contrast between his new streamlined robot-body and the bulky Western Star semi, is it even possible?)
What can I say, I kind of wanted one after watching the movie but neither looks like they're worth it.

People were overwhelming underwhelmed by the First Edition figure.

But, I can say the Leader Class OP is worth it. He's really nice and I'm happy with him.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:55 pm

Seibertron also got that new constructbots set too. Both are on my radar but not must haves, well the constructbots set is

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:16 pm

By way of Toys 'R' Us Japan, we have some nice high rez promo images of Takara Lost Age LA10 Scorn and LA11 Strafe. These are the Takara release of the Hasbro Power Attackers Scorn and Strafe. The images have been mirrored for your convenience.

LA10 Scorn

LA11 Strafe

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:38 pm

LOST Cybertronian wrote:By way of Toys 'R' Us Japan, we have some nice high rez promo images of Takara Lost Age LA10 Scorn and LA11 Strafe. These are the Takara release of the Hasbro Power Attackers Scorn and Strafe. The images have been mirrored for your convenience.

LA10 Scorn

LA11 Strafe