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Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:07 pm

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Orin_Thomas wrote:Did people who didn't like the writing in TF2 hate the writing in Star Trek? It was written by the same guys (Orci and Kurtzman) and I saw very few complaints about Star Trek's pacing or plot.
Star Trk did not have this much (if any at all) potty humor.
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Roadbuster » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:33 pm

you know... I don't know what's sadder, the fact that people are not realising Bay did this on purpose to get a rise out of fanboys like the post "lubrication scene" did. Or the fact that this thread is mostly focused on a robot's "wrecking balls."
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Orin_Thomas » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:36 pm

Star Trek also wasn't aimed at pre-teen boys. In the cinema I was in with my son, the potty humor went off like a firecracker. So rather than lack of talent, I would suggest that it was targeting a very specific audience.

As I mentioned in the poll thread - my six year old has the attention span of a mayfly with ADHD and he came out of the movie raving about it - wanted to get every toy we don't already have. Favorite characters? Prime, Bumblebee, Skids and Mudflap. As much as I like a sophistocated Transformers story, the only place we will get that is in the pre-AHM comics.

I didn't think it was a great movie, but I'm also not the target audience. It was enjoyable and I'm glad I saw it because damn if Michael Bay didn't blow up a lot of stuff.

Besides, it would almost be impossible to make a bigger movie on earth than this one. Transformers 3 has to have Unicron because that is the only way that Michael Bay can make a bigger movie than Transformers II.
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:03 pm

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Orin_Thomas wrote:Besides, it would almost be impossible to make a bigger movie on earth than this one. Transformers 3 has to have Unicron because that is the only way that Michael Bay can make a bigger movie than Transformers II.
Not true there is one character that is far more powerful, far more larger, far more evil than Unicron. He was made quite recently, actually. He's the primary antagonist in the Alternity fiction and is the most evil character of all Transformers fiction.
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Orin_Thomas » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:48 am

Hytherion is invisible! Kinda hard for Michale Bay to make an invisible villain more cinematically spectacular than a planet sized Transformer. Sure we are told that Hytherion is a bigger badass, but we haven't really seen any fiction to supports that. Given that Unicron destroys universes, the idea that hytherion is more badass reeks of hyperbole.

Compare the two hypothetical trailer scenes:

Unicron rips the moon in half.

Optimus Prime makes a speech about a dangerous invisible thing from the alternity dimension that is going to kick our butts.

Which do you think Michael Bay would go for?
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:02 am

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  • The dog on dog scene - funny
  • Another dog on dog scene - funny
  • close up of Simmons' butt as he yanks his pants off - gross
  • Leo's pants dropping - it was necessary for him to tase himself, which was funny
  • Jetfire farting parachutes - dumb
  • Wheelie on Mikaela's leg - the worst
  • Mikaela on top of Leo - whatever
  • Said scene has him saying she's crushing his balls - so?
  • Devastator's scrotum - very dumb
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby astig » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:41 am

they probably added devastator to the rotf lineup just to make that testicle joke. #-o
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Autobobby1 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:01 pm

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  • The dog on dog scene - pointless
  • Another dog on dog scene - even worse
  • Sam's dad slapping his mom on the butt - perverted and out of character
  • Sam's mom mentioning Sam wanting to "pop his cherry" - humiliating
  • Every scene with Alice - unbearable and totally out of place
  • close up of Simmons' butt as he yanks his pants off - unexpected, therefore a little bit funny
  • Leo's pants dropping - worth it for him to taze himself
  • Leo tazing himself - hilarious
  • Jetfire farting parachutes - kind of funny
  • Wheelie on Mikaela's leg - make it stop!
  • Mikaela on top of Leo - pointless
  • Said scene has him saying she's crushing his balls - also pointless
  • Devastator's scrotum - I chuckled, but I knew it was coming
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby Counterpunch » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:36 pm

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You guys sure do talk about balls a lot.
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby cybercat » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:55 pm

See, I lump all that testicular humor in with the mandatory midget joke and the upskirt Alice shot as Stuff That Guys Like and Women Don't Quite Get. (Seriously, what the hell is it with you guys and little people?!?)

What got funny to me wasn't all the nut-jokes, but the fact that there were so many--I was laughing less at the joke (because, other than John Turturro's most of them were pretty lame), than the fact that there was yet another testicle joke.

Freud would say that *someone* is overcompensating.

HK, not overcompensating.
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Re: Orci & Kurtzman talk robo-testicles & TF3

Postby LiKwid » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:09 pm

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Any scene where Leo injured himself was great.. The movie could have done without him. Any other scene was just fine, balls and all...

The 2 theaters I have seen this movie in had a fair share of youngsters , but the movie is rated PG-13... Not pg-6... Parents should know to expect some "potty humor" :?
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