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why are all the bots that the cube created bad?? +_+

Mountain Dew machine, the package and the hotchick's car.
I thought the cube just created life... didn't say anythign about it creating life that default as BAD guys.

So how come the autobots are good?

hmm...

To me, the "Cube" was kind of like Vector Signa. Able to create life from machines and give them with a spark but as far as why they are all bad ass Transformers I don't know.

People are saying that they were like children and didn't know better, that they needed to be taught.

It would have been nice if the movie had cleared this up. Without any explanation in the film, it looks like the Autobots were risking their life for a device that creates blood thirsty monsters. That's worth dying for.

I think they were not bad, they were just confused...

What I don't understand, why did Nokiabot had a rocket launcher and a mini-gatling?

Grimlock86 wrote:I think they were not bad, they were just confused...

What I don't understand, why did Nokiabot had a rocket launcher and a mini-gatling?

Same reason that Dew-bot had his refreshment cannons. They adapt what they've got into defense mechanisms.

I'm pretty sure that the idea was that these new robots, being brought abruptly into existence, simply didn't know anything beyond absolute instinct.

Sloptank wrote:I'm pretty sure that the idea was that these new robots, being brought abruptly into existence, simply didn't know anything beyond absolute instinct.

Sounds about right.

Did the Autobots want to bring the All Spark back to Eneregon to repopulate it with more Transformers, or was there more that the All Spark could do?

It would have been nice if half of the bots created were good and they fought eachother. Like a psycho Coke machine duking it out with a peace-loving Pepsi machine!

If you recall, the Autobot's purpose for finding the AllSPark was to destroy it.

When life is created, it is inherintly selfish and destructive. (If you're a Bible reader, you might recall this in the Old Testament.) But to be good, one must be taught good from evil and given the opportunity to choose.

My 2 cents.

Coke machine vs. Pepsi machine, now that's brilliant.
What I noticed was that all the newly created TF's had red eyes. I saw it noted somewhere here in the last month that much like the old cartoon, all the Autobots had blue eyes, and all the Decepticons had red eyes. Seemed to follow suit. If you look back at the G2 comic (and pretty much do away with the Primus origin take that I always held close) the TF's base instinct is cold and machine-like, more along Megatron's path of destroy and conquer. Maybe that's how they all start out. Optimus did go on several times about making choices. Just food for thought.

Sloptank wrote:

Grimlock86 wrote:I think they were not bad, they were just confused...

What I don't understand, why did Nokiabot had a rocket launcher and a mini-gatling?

Same reason that Dew-bot had his refreshment cannons. They adapt what they've got into defense mechanisms.

I'm pretty sure that the idea was that these new robots, being brought abruptly into existence, simply didn't know anything beyond absolute instinct.

so they're natural instinct is to kill all in proximity? +_+

I could see that if they were trying to EAT the humans... but .... -_-


also saw someone mention maybe it was cause the cube was reversed engineered from Megatron... but I thought the cube predated Megatron (didn't it create HIM?). or implying that soda machine was reverse engineered from him?

hmm...actually ok. I'll buy that for lack of a better explanation. :p

QBKiller94 wrote:It would have been nice if half of the bots created were good and they fought eachother. Like a psycho Coke machine duking it out with a peace-loving Pepsi machine!

Now that's stupid...


Everyone knows Coke is the hero of carbonated beverages...

The Avatar of Man wrote:

QBKiller94 wrote:It would have been nice if half of the bots created were good and they fought eachother. Like a psycho Coke machine duking it out with a peace-loving Pepsi machine!

Now that's stupid...


Everyone knows Coke is the hero of carbonated beverages...

....Pepsi Prime ring a bell?

Venomous Prime wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:

QBKiller94 wrote:It would have been nice if half of the bots created were good and they fought eachother. Like a psycho Coke machine duking it out with a peace-loving Pepsi machine!

Now that's stupid...


Everyone knows Coke is the hero of carbonated beverages...

....Pepsi Prime ring a bell?

Ugh... He's the Nemesis to Coke Prime?

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Venomous Prime wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:

QBKiller94 wrote:It would have been nice if half of the bots created were good and they fought eachother. Like a psycho Coke machine duking it out with a peace-loving Pepsi machine!

Now that's stupid...


Everyone knows Coke is the hero of carbonated beverages...

....Pepsi Prime ring a bell?

Ugh... He's the Nemesis to Coke Prime?

Coca Cola Convoy?

GrendelKhan{TSU} wrote:

Sloptank wrote:

Grimlock86 wrote:I think they were not bad, they were just confused...

What I don't understand, why did Nokiabot had a rocket launcher and a mini-gatling?

Same reason that Dew-bot had his refreshment cannons. They adapt what they've got into defense mechanisms.

I'm pretty sure that the idea was that these new robots, being brought abruptly into existence, simply didn't know anything beyond absolute instinct.

so they're natural instinct is to kill all in proximity? +_+

I could see that if they were trying to EAT the humans... but .... -_-


also saw someone mention maybe it was cause the cube was reversed engineered from Megatron... but I thought the cube predated Megatron (didn't it create HIM?). or implying that soda machine was reverse engineered from him?

hmm...actually ok. I'll buy that for lack of a better explanation. :p

Perhaps because human tech was reverse enginered from Megatron

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Venomous Prime wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:

QBKiller94 wrote:It would have been nice if half of the bots created were good and they fought eachother. Like a psycho Coke machine duking it out with a peace-loving Pepsi machine!

Now that's stupid...


Everyone knows Coke is the hero of carbonated beverages...

....Pepsi Prime ring a bell?

Ugh... He's the Nemesis to Coke Prime?

so what's that make Coke Zero? :p

Jar Axel wrote:Perhaps because human tech was reverse enginered from Megatron

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! My earlier post, yet again:

Repugnus wrote:

Viral wrote:

Autobobby1 wrote:Actually, it was most likely because all of the technology that was transformed by the Allspark was made with reverse-engineered Megatron tech.

Best, and most feasible answer.

Not only that, but at Botcon, during one of the panels with the writers (I think it was the second panel, but I could be wrong), they said that this is in fact the correct reason.

Case closed.

But seriously, new threads asking this exact same question are getting started every few hours. The last one is still at the bottom of the movie forum's first page. Not to be rude, but people need to start obeying rule seven of this forum:

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