Caelus wrote:Unicron's_head wrote:Cujo wrote:here is some:
The jet in the second pic looks more like Classics Jetfire to me
The F-14 Tomcat is the base for the robotech jet which was the base for G1 Jetfire's toy. It was also hybridized with an F-22 for G2 Hooligan and Jetfire, and recently received a minicon in the Classics line.
Dirge, Ramjet, and Thrust were all fictionally modified F-15s AFAIK.
Right, in that the core of each was inded the same as the F-15. I believe that Thrust was just a fictional VSTOL F-15, while Ramjet and Dirge were based off existing delta wing designs. (A delta wing, for those who don't know, is a triangular wing setup where there exists no horizontal tail stabilizers. Examples will follow. With wings swept back, the F-14 takes on essentially a delt-wing configuration, though the rear stabilizers still function.)
Ramjet, in my opinion, has many similarities to the French based Mirage:
Obviously not exactly as there is no downward winglet on the wing ends and no twin engine or twin tail setup. In some ways, the wing shape shares the Avro Arrow (CF-105) which is at least a twin engine, but again a single tail fin:
Dirge differs from Ramjet in several key areas, most notably the lack of any tail fins, no wing mounted engines, and a canard setup (the small wing in front of the main delta wing.) The canard is very close to the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen:
Again, there are marked differences, most notably with respect to the engines and the tail fin.
So, in conclusion, I think it is very accurate to say that the original G1 seekers were all based off of the F-15 with wing modifications based on both imaginary possibilities and real world fighter designs. Classics Ramjet goes even further to alter the cockpit shape to change the look a little. He no longer looks F-15 ish at the nose, but maybe more Mirage or MIG like.
Whew!! I love fighter jets!!!
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