hellkitty wrote:Shia has fangirls? Ladies, please, get some standards. Josh Duhamel I could understand, Tyrese, totally, but SHIA?!?!
Best way to see the movie, I've discovered, is in IMAX and with a bunch of my coworker's kids. (WHY do people trust me with their children!?) Nine year olds + IMAX = awesome.
HK, now, Starscream fangirls...totally makes sense.
Yes, sadly Shia has a girl fanbase. I know a few, and it's strange because not even they could explain to me their interest. They just find him cute. I laughed. They glared, I laughed more. However hands down this same demograph will take Depp over Shia any day of the week. This gave me little hope for them.
On a related note, Starscream does have fan girls, I know a few of them who aren't even fans of the genre, but they love Starscream. Funny world.
tfphatty wrote:As it stands now 12 days in, ROTF is roughly $100 million dollars ahead of the first TF movie at 12 days in. Unequivocally and without a doubt it will surpass it's predecessor. The $400 million that some were saying after it's opening weekend seems like a long shot, but I could see it "limping" to $350 million. And by the way, all films limp to their final total gross. And in regards to all the non-transformer fans I'VE talked to (which in the scheme of things really means nothing) most that have seen it, want to see it again in IMAX, and those who haven't seen it yet are looking forward to disregarding what so many of those out of touch movie reviewers have said, and are excited to see it! - IMHO
I happily disagree that non-fans of the genre mean nothing. It means alot, especially when it can boost a movies sales from $300M to close to a Billion. I can assure you everyone who helped out with The Dark Knight wasn't a Batman fan. Ultimately, it weighs in on a films ability to appeal to everyone as best as it can in it's respective genre. Or if there is enough hype around it and the film itself does deliver. Or sadly if even tragedy surrounds the film. Or all three. If it reaches $350M, well good for Paramount. If it doesn't, well they still made alot of money and probably will continue to world wide if not domestically. Honestly it really doesn't matter being if one side roots for it or not, because we will never see a penny of that profit for one. And it's already made more then enough to green light a 3rd film. It only had to hit $250M really for a movie to be greenlit.
Initally, this threads original subject matter was being called out by me as a ploy by the studio to continue to hype the success of the film if only to lay claim to the July4th weekend. I don't know if it makes a film more bankable or makes the greenlight process easier for production, but I do know it's a factor. It's just sad though that for a film everyone claims is doing so well, Paramount needs to brag about their .5 victory over a childrens movie about Dinosaurs.
Also, I myself am a fan of the first film and even some of the toys (Being I was a designer for a Toy Company in Malibu, and I appreciate the engineering)....but I'm not a "Core" fan, and I didn't like this film as much as the first. I didn't hate it...but I'm in no rush to see it 5 more times in which case if I was, and this feeling was shared by the rest of the States % of non-fans....well thats alot of money I'm sure Paramount would have no issues taking part of. And I wasn't even asking for much, just a story, not a great story just a intact story....and seeing these great designs of the robots which were reduced to Background props by the films ending.
In fact let's throw story out the window for a minute kay? If I were to see this movie based soley on the eye candy....all I would want to see is The Shanghai scene, Optimus final battle with Blackout, Megatron, and Starscream, and the Fusion scene where he rips the Fallen's face off....and I would have already thought this movie dozens of times better then I currently hold it.
So, in short I'm calling out Paramount as being desparate to have their flagship summer movie of 09 earn what they estimated over what they see it pulling.
Any studio alienating either the fanbase or the non-fans is bad. Thats the difference of millions upon millions of dollars in profit. You alienate the fans....you loose out on assured profit and ticket sales. You alienate everyone else...and you loose more money being ANY genre doesn't hold fans which make up the entire population of the US, or the world for that matter.
And Shia does have fan girls....but said girls are quick to ditch for a Pirate or even Batman....so I'm not too worried about the average tween or college girls standards. Especially the average college girls standards. ha ha ha
Laters,
Josh
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