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SAM, NO!

Postby Fred2012 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:40 pm

remember when sam rams the allspark into megatron? now, a two parter:

1. what do u think was goin though primes head when sam went up to megatron with the allspark?

2. why didnt prime think of this b4? did he think that like "i dont want a human to outshine me, damn it!" or something like that?

i wanna know wht ppl think bcuz this seemed funny to me
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Postby AUTOBOT STITH » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:53 pm

Mabey Optimus was thinking "wow Sam is corages" or somthing like that
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Postby jaws » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:28 pm

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Postby syphonn » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:30 pm

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Postby Bumblebee-otch » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:42 pm

i always wondered why optimus was so willing to give his life to destroy the allspark, when he was the only one who stood a chance against megatron. no one thought about how screwed earth would be?
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Postby Fred2012 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:13 pm

Bumblebee-otch wrote:i always wondered why optimus was so willing to give his life to destroy the allspark, when he was the only one who stood a chance against megatron. no one thought about how screwed earth would be?


excactly! prime's like "well its not my problem if im dead!" i was thinking about tht too!
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Postby Dragonslayer » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:33 pm

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It's possible he overestimated Megatron's strength and thought that if Sam merged the Allspark with Megs' spark, he'd be unstoppable and everyone would die anyway. At least if he merged it with his own spark, Prime would ensure Megatron wouldn't have it.
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Postby Fred2012 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:50 pm

Dragonslayer wrote:It's possible he overestimated Megatron's strength and thought that if Sam merged the Allspark with Megs' spark, he'd be unstoppable and everyone would die anyway. At least if he merged it with his own spark, Prime would ensure Megatron wouldn't have it.


yes, which could make for some good sequels! i hope skorponok gives his spark to megatron to make him galvatron! ppl say its stupid but it will add a more robotic, mindless, wreckless side to galvtron!
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Postby Susinko » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:07 pm

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I personally think that Optimus Prime was freaking out on the inside when he saw Sam turn and approach Megatron with the Allspark. There must have been instances before where Autobots switched sides to save thier lives.

I personally was wondering why Optimus was so gun-ho about destroying the Allspark. I mean, almost all of the Decepticons on Earth were destroyed before the Allspark was destroyed. I would have gathered my troops, the US forces that were there and just ganged up on Megatron. Fair? No. But at least I could then save my homeworld instead of dooming my entire race to eventual extinction.

But that's just me.


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Postby ultra tron » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:15 am

Susinko wrote:I personally think that Optimus Prime was freaking out on the inside when he saw Sam turn and approach Megatron with the Allspark. There must have been instances before where Autobots switched sides to save thier lives.

I personally was wondering why Optimus was so gun-ho about destroying the Allspark. I mean, almost all of the Decepticons on Earth were destroyed before the Allspark was. I would have gathered my troops, the US forces that were there and just ganged up on him. Fair? No. But at least I could then save my homeworld instead of dooming my entire race to eventual extinction.

But that's just me.



Yeah, Prime's voice did waver when he said no Sam! he figured that after all that work Sam would just hand over the all spark.

The whole situation in itself is a catch 22 because even i The all spark was destroyed, it would not save anybody. Megatron is a killing machine and would have finished off earth anyway. Especially if Prime was dead.
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Postby AUTOBOT STITH » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:39 am

Ya I know I bet Ops was thinking "Oh crap Sam no."
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Postby Raymond101 » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:44 am

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Postby AUTOBOT STITH » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:00 am

Ya like Optimus was thinking"Oh mabye energon Pizza...mmmm pizza."
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Postby Izanami » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:53 am

I was wondering why he said that too. Thinking about it though it probably had to do with how 1. He had asked Sam to sacrifice him as the last resort, but Sam decided he couldn't do that and 2. how he was probably afraid for Sam running right up to Megatron like that.

I also thought that putting the All Spark in Megatron's chest would have a less than pleasant outcome for the Autobots, but I was wrong...at least until the sequel...maybe.
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Postby Izanami » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:54 am

Oh dear, double post. Sorry.
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Postby Sonic Wing » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:08 pm

Izanami wrote:I was wondering why he said that too. Thinking about it though it probably had to do with how 1. He had asked Sam to sacrifice him as the last resort, but Sam decided he couldn't do that and 2. how he was probably afraid for Sam running right up to Megatron like that.

I also thought that putting the All Spark in Megatron's chest would have a less than pleasant outcome for the Autobots, but I was wrong...at least until the sequel...maybe.


i thought this:

1. Sam NO!!!! like hes goin to get squished by megs

2. Sam NO!!!! like its a stupid idea to do that u moron!
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Postby glitched9700 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:02 am

i think that part was funny because the whole scene was optimus screaming at sam then sam is like im coming optimus... butterfingers, kills megs instead.
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Postby lilcarus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:30 pm

why didnt the other autobots just step in and handle up megatron prison style since prime was on the sidelines...im sure in his state he would have been easy to gang rape and then toss his lifeless body into a laundry cart..where the gaurds to find it later..
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Postby Bigchin » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:38 pm

I wondered why Prime would shout "No Sam!" when it's obvious Sam is going to destroy Megatron with the Allspark, and then say "You left me no choice, brother" when it's all over, as if it was his idea all along.
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Postby Tangent » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:56 pm

Bigchin wrote:I wondered why Prime would shout "No Sam!" when it's obvious Sam is going to destroy Megatron with the Allspark, and then say "You left me no choice, brother" when it's all over, as if it was his idea all along.


Yeah, what was up with that? Primes such a glory hog...
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Re: SAM, NO!

Postby Gojira Prime » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:39 pm

tyler1451 wrote:remember when sam rams the allspark into megatron? now, a two parter:

1. what do u think was goin though primes head when sam went up to megatron with the allspark?

2. why didnt prime think of this b4? did he think that like "i dont want a human to outshine me, damn it!" or something like that?

i wanna know wht ppl think bcuz this seemed funny to me


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Re: SAM, NO!

Postby Gojira Prime » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:40 pm

tyler1451 wrote:remember when sam rams the allspark into megatron? now, a two parter:

1. what do u think was goin though primes head when sam went up to megatron with the allspark?

2. why didnt prime think of this b4? did he think that like "i dont want a human to outshine me, damn it!" or something like that?

i wanna know wht ppl think bcuz this seemed funny to me


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Postby Fred2012 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:56 pm

Tangent wrote:
Bigchin wrote:I wondered why Prime would shout "No Sam!" when it's obvious Sam is going to destroy Megatron with the Allspark, and then say "You left me no choice, brother" when it's all over, as if it was his idea all along.


Yeah, what was up with that? Primes such a glory hog...


lol, i kno, he said it like "yea, that was my plan all along..." 'looks to left and right'
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:52 pm

If Prime was thinking that Sam was going to hand over the cube to Megatron, he sure didn't try to stop him or anything. His love of Free will is disgusting.
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