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Hi, I think I may have some clues about Sari Sumdaac

1. She could of been created through the Power of the Allspark, this would make most since the way it scans her and they way she is able to use the allspark key so easily.

2. While Megatron was in Sumdaac Tower still as his head he got into Sumdaac's computer systems he erased Sari's files from exsistence so that someone sympathatic to the Decepticon Cause would take over AKA Mr. Powell.

3. Sari Sumdaac was a protofrom transformer that crash landed on earth during the huge battle at the beginning of the show. She had much battle damage and Sumdaac reversed engineered her thus making her look exactly like a human being.

On the decipticon double spy Megatron seems so interested in I have several theries on this one.

1. Arcee - Since she had her memory erased, she is now a decipticon spy this would make since cause she is suppose to be in the elite gaurd as an intelligence officer and she could have many secrets that could have Megatron take over cybertron from within such as access codes.

2. Waspinator
3. Thundercracker
4. Sentinel Prime - You could tell bye the way he acts toward Optimus he could be working with the Decipticons from within he is right next to Ultramagnus and has all kinds of information he could easily access. Plus he could easlily get away with it also

5. Iron Hide
6. Thundercracker
7. Skywarp
8. Swindle he could blind in as an autobot if he is sticking to his combaticon roots.

Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

Boot I hope Optimus gets some cool upgrades later on somewhat similar or bring in some mini-cons.

Interesting clues on sari and interesting theories on the Deception Double-spy.

The whole Megatron erasing her existence files sounds is a great clue, I disagree with the rest though. I just don't see how she could be a robot, I mean if I recall correctly she was affected by the allspark key as Blackarachina got ahold of it in "Along Came A Spider" while the autobots weren't getting rotten looking the least bit. She also eats regular food, and doesn't eat scraps or drink any oil. I just don't get that whole theory personally. I mean what's next, Sam Witwicky is a robot becuase he failed at making the football tema yet is fast enough to dodge the Decepticons in the movie?

As for the Decepticon double spy, I like you're Arcee theory alot, although I'm hoping it's Shockwave since we haven't seen a thing on him in a while, least for the animated series anyway.

Sentinal is the worst candidate to be the traitor because saying that Sentinal is the traitor is about as creative as Ironman being a skrull. No good writer worth their merit would ever do that, it's just too obvious. Most likely it'll be some character we've never seen up until the episode wher they discover he's the traitor. Even then, he'll probably seem like a regular Johnny Autobot, being perfect, charismatic and downright likeable, which would make it all the more shocking to reveal it was all a shammity-sham-sham. Or it'll be the dude in the corner that nobody notices.

Sari is an annoying plot device with an heir of mystery to ad filler to future plotlines when the writers hit a block.

HEY, I just figured her out!!!

Dr Buffalo wrote:Sentinal is the worst candidate to be the traitor because saying that Sentinal is the traitor is about as creative as Ironman being a skrull. No good writer worth their merit would ever do that, it's just too obvious. Most likely it'll be some character we've never seen up until the episode wher they discover he's the traitor. Even then, he'll probably seem like a regular Johnny Autobot, being perfect, charismatic and downright likeable, which would make it all the more shocking to reveal it was all a shammity-sham-sham. Or it'll be the dude in the corner that nobody notices.

Yeah but at the end of his first episode we'll know cause they take a second at the end and zoom in on him mysteriously if not evily

Rodimus2006 wrote:Hi, I think I may have some clues about Sari Sumdaac

1. She could of been created through the Power of the Allspark, this would make most since the way it scans her and they way she is able to use the allspark key so easily.

2. While Megatron was in Sumdaac Tower still as his head he got into Sumdaac's computer systems he erased Sari's files from exsistence so that someone sympathatic to the Decepticon Cause would take over AKA Mr. Powell.

3. Sari Sumdaac was a protofrom transformer that crash landed on earth during the huge battle at the beginning of the show. She had much battle damage and Sumdaac reversed engineered her thus making her look exactly like a human being.

1. How did the Allspark create a human looking life form from inside the Autobots ship under water?

2. Sumdac only has 1 A and there's no reason Megatron should even know Mr. Powell exsists. They've never met so how could they be working togeather?

3. I'm not even going to go into how bad that sounds as a plot.

What if the whole thing with Sari actully turns out to be something INSAINELY simple. Like she was abandoned as a baby and found by Mr. Sumdac with no idea of her true identity he named her Sari and took her in but he was so buisy with his buisness that he just never got around to filling out any offical adoption papers and that's why there's no record of her.

As for her conection to the Allspark... maybe her real parrents were killed by Megatron's falling head and some how she survived the impact?

On the decipticon double spy Megatron seems so interested in I have several theries on this one.

1. Arcee - Since she had her memory erased, she is now a decipticon spy this would make since cause she is suppose to be in the elite gaurd as an intelligence officer and she could have many secrets that could have Megatron take over cybertron from within such as access codes.

2. Waspinator
3. Thundercracker
4. Sentinel Prime - You could tell bye the way he acts toward Optimus he could be working with the Decipticons from within he is right next to Ultramagnus and has all kinds of information he could easily access. Plus he could easlily get away with it also

5. Iron Hide
6. Thundercracker
7. Skywarp
8. Swindle he could blind in as an autobot if he is sticking to his combaticon roots.

Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

Boot I hope Optimus gets some cool upgrades later on somewhat similar or bring in some mini-cons.

1. No, one good girl gone bad is OK. TWO is overkill. Pluse once her memory was errased her usefullness to both sides went with her memory.

2. I haven't heard anything to sugest Waspinator is in the series at all let alone be a spy.

3. I don't think he's in this series either.

4. No, Sentinal Prime is just a jerk, not a Decepticon.

5. Ironhide is one word and NO!

6. Why did you list Thundercracker twice?

7. Skywarp I think is a toy only character.

8. Swindle is definate possibility.

Hey Saber Prime Bite me ok Bite me I hate people like you always watching over other people and correcting other people's blogs, and acting like you are better than everyone else is. Excuse me that my Sumdac was spelled with 2 AAs instead of 1 A. And excuse me that I listed my Thundercracker or Skywarp as Twice we are not perfect like you are and some of us do make mistakes from time to time.

1. I am sticking with my Theory on Megatron erasing Sari's files from exsistence but I am doing away with my Theory on Mr. Powell, Megatron could have other motives behing this but it might not be revealed until later on. If that leave here story plot unfinished or dont even talk about anymore like in the last few episodes I will be sorely pissed off. But dont get me wrong I do like these episodes and I really enjoyed Mission Accomplished and cant wait for the next one Garbage In, Garbage Out to see the cameo of Carly and Spike.

2. I am also doing away with my Theory on Arcee as the Decipticon Spy but that was a good one considering she has no memories and could easily be one. But after the end of Mission Accomplished Megatron said that the spy was a HE so this leaves only these as Pointal Candidates: Bulkhead, Sential Prime, Iron Hide, Swindle, Skywarp & Thundercracker. Yes these will be in the show later on at some point but as fulltime or cameo's is anyone's guess at the moment. Waspinator & Omega Supreme is also suppose to make some sort of appereance and so is Galvatron but some wonder if he will be Megtron Upgrades like he usually his or a diffrent Decipticon Leader who has been else where laying in wait.

3. I think that Professor Sumdac is a Traitor cause he made Megatron a Subspace Tacheyon Transmitter, He is reverse engineering him a Space Bridge, Everytime Megatron recapture him he does not seem to reluctant to escape or even try to. He could have easily tried to escape from his Forcefield workshop and call the Autobots for assistance but probably not since Lugnutz and Blitzwing was always gaurding him until they were distracted bye Starscream that is. 4. He had Megtron's head locked away all that time and he never told anyone about not even his own daughter. You can agree or disagree with my facts or not these are not 100% foolproof and should be considered as RUMORS ONLY!!!! but I thought I would just make some opions and throw out some theroies here and there but most people just like to bitch about your post so why should I bother anymore. So from now on if I find any useful info on any news on TF-Animated or Transformers 2 I will keep it too my self thank you very much.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Hey Saber Prime Bite me ok Bite me I hate people like you always watching over other people and correcting other people's blogs, and acting like you are better than everyone else is. Excuse me that my Sumdac was spelled with 2 AAs instead of 1 A. And excuse me that I listed my Thundercracker or Skywarp as Twice we are not perfect like you are and some of us do make mistakes from time to time.

1. I am sticking with my Theory on Megatron erasing Sari's files from exsistence but I am doing away with my Theory on Mr. Powell, Megatron could have other motives behing this but it might not be revealed until later on. If that leave here story plot unfinished or dont even talk about anymore like in the last few episodes I will be sorely pissed off. But dont get me wrong I do like these episodes and I really enjoyed Mission Accomplished and cant wait for the next one Garbage In, Garbage Out to see the cameo of Carly and Spike.


2. I am also doing away with my Theory on Arcee as the Decipticon Spy but that was a good one considering she has no memories and could easily be one. But after the end of Mission Accomplished Megatron said that the spy was a HE so this leaves only these as Pointal Candidates: Bulkhead, Sential Prime, Iron Hide, Swindle, Skywarp & Thundercracker. Yes these will be in the show later on at some point but as fulltime or cameo's is anyone's guess at the moment. Waspinator & Omega Supreme is also suppose to make some sort of appereance and so is Galvatron but some wonder if he will be Megtron Upgrades like he usually his or a diffrent Decipticon Leader who has been else where laying in wait.

3. I think that Professor Sumdac is a Traitor cause he made Megatron a Subspace Tacheyon Transmitter, He is reverse engineering him a Space Bridge, Everytime Megatron recapture him he does not seem to reluctant to escape or even try to. He could have easily tried to escape from his Forcefield workshop and call the Autobots for assistance but probably not since Lugnutz and Blitzwing was always gaurding him until they were distracted bye Starscream that is. 4. He had Megtron's head locked away all that time and he never told anyone about not even his own daughter. You can agree or disagree with my facts or not these are not 100% foolproof and should be considered as RUMORS ONLY!!!! but I thought I would just make some opions and throw out some theroies here and there but most people just like to bitch about your post so why should I bother anymore. So from now on if I find any useful info on any news on TF-Animated or Transformers 2 I will keep it too my self thank you very much.

dude, i think your totally over thinking the whole thing, its a kids show, i dont think it would ever go that deep.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Hey Saber Prime Bite me ok Bite me I hate people like you always watching over other people and correcting other people's blogs, and acting like you are better than everyone else is. Excuse me that my Sumdac was spelled with 2 AAs instead of 1 A. And excuse me that I listed my Thundercracker or Skywarp as Twice we are not perfect like you are and some of us do make mistakes from time to time.

1. I am sticking with my Theory on Megatron erasing Sari's files from exsistence but I am doing away with my Theory on Mr. Powell, Megatron could have other motives behing this but it might not be revealed until later on. If that leave here story plot unfinished or dont even talk about anymore like in the last few episodes I will be sorely pissed off. But dont get me wrong I do like these episodes and I really enjoyed Mission Accomplished and cant wait for the next one Garbage In, Garbage Out to see the cameo of Carly and Spike.

2. I am also doing away with my Theory on Arcee as the Decipticon Spy but that was a good one considering she has no memories and could easily be one. But after the end of Mission Accomplished Megatron said that the spy was a HE so this leaves only these as Pointal Candidates: Bulkhead, Sential Prime, Iron Hide, Swindle, Skywarp & Thundercracker. Yes these will be in the show later on at some point but as fulltime or cameo's is anyone's guess at the moment. Waspinator & Omega Supreme is also suppose to make some sort of appereance and so is Galvatron but some wonder if he will be Megtron Upgrades like he usually his or a diffrent Decipticon Leader who has been else where laying in wait.

3. I think that Professor Sumdac is a Traitor cause he made Megatron a Subspace Tacheyon Transmitter, He is reverse engineering him a Space Bridge, Everytime Megatron recapture him he does not seem to reluctant to escape or even try to. He could have easily tried to escape from his Forcefield workshop and call the Autobots for assistance but probably not since Lugnutz and Blitzwing was always gaurding him until they were distracted bye Starscream that is. 4. He had Megtron's head locked away all that time and he never told anyone about not even his own daughter. You can agree or disagree with my facts or not these are not 100% foolproof and should be considered as RUMORS ONLY!!!! but I thought I would just make some opions and throw out some theroies here and there but most people just like to bitch about your post so why should I bother anymore. So from now on if I find any useful info on any news on TF-Animated or Transformers 2 I will keep it too my self thank you very much.

First of all, I never claim to be perfect.

Second if I didn't say it someone else would of. I've had people correct my spelling errors (and typos) many times. Some times it ticks me off other times it doesn't bother me. (Useually when it ticks me off it's when I was allready in a bad mood to start with.)

I responce to your 2. Where did you hear thouse characters were going to be in the show? All I've heard about them is fan rumors, nothing confirmed. Bulkhead as a spy? Only way he's the spy is if he has some kind of camera and sound recorder on his head and isn't even aware of it. Besides that Bulkhead along with Bumblebee are going to be the ones who end up catching the spy. Or at least that's what I gathered from the episode summery.

Sumdac is just an idiot and a coward. And really if you were surrounded by giant robots who could kill you just by stepping on you like a bug, would you try to exscape? I am currious why he doesn't just stall them. He's being kept alive because of his usefullness so as long as he PRETENDS to be doing something productive he's safe but if he actully does do as he's told he puts everyone in danger including himself. He might be working in defects in the designs though. Maybe he scrambled the signal so the Autobots heard Megatron's call insted of the Decepticons or maybe the Decepticons did hear it but he made it so they can't trace the signal back to Earth.

[quote="Rodimus2006"]Hi, I think I may have some clues about Sari Sumdaac

1. She could of been created through the Power of the Allspark, this would make most since the way it scans her and they way she is able to use the allspark key so easily.

2. While Megatron was in Sumdaac Tower still as his head he got into Sumdaac's computer systems he erased Sari's files from exsistence so that someone sympathatic to the Decepticon Cause would take over AKA Mr. Powell.

3. Sari Sumdaac was a protofrom transformer that crash landed on earth during the huge battle at the beginning of the show. She had much battle damage and Sumdaac reversed engineered her thus making her look exactly like a human being.
well technically,jetfire and jetstorm combine in this show.
On the decipticon double spy Megatron seems so interested in I have several theries on this one.

1. Arcee - Since she had her memory erased, she is now a decipticon spy this would make since cause she is suppose to be in the elite gaurd as an intelligence officer and she could have many secrets that could have Megatron take over cybertron from within such as access codes.

2. Waspinator
3. Thundercracker
4. Sentinel Prime - You could tell bye the way he acts toward Optimus he could be working with the Decipticons from within he is right next to Ultramagnus and has all kinds of information he could easily access. Plus he could easlily get away with it also

5. Iron Hide
6. Thundercracker
7. Skywarp
8. Swindle he could blind in as an autobot if he is sticking to his combaticon roots.

Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

Boot I hope Optimus gets some cool upgrades later on somewhat similar or bring in some mini-cons.
technically jetfire can combine to someone in this show

Rodimus2006 wrote:Hi, I think I may have some clues about Sari Sumdaac

1. She could of been created through the Power of the Allspark, this would make most since the way it scans her and they way she is able to use the allspark key so easily.

2. While Megatron was in Sumdaac Tower still as his head he got into Sumdaac's computer systems he erased Sari's files from exsistence so that someone sympathatic to the Decepticon Cause would take over AKA Mr. Powell.

3. Sari Sumdaac was a protofrom transformer that crash landed on earth during the huge battle at the beginning of the show. She had much battle damage and Sumdaac reversed engineered her thus making her look exactly like a human being.

1. The AllSpark was inside the Autobot ship, under Lake Eerie. So no.

2. Also doubtful, since Birth Certificates and Social Security cards are kept on paper.

3. Impossible. What Protoform? What battle? The Autobots weren't carrying any Protoform pods, and there weren't even any on the Decepticon ship. (Otherwise they'd have already used them)

As for the double-agent, Megatron said his double-agent was on Cybertron, so Ironhide and Sentinel are out. (Ironhide was on the Galactic rim, Sentinel was on his way BACK to Cybertron) Arcee is out, since she was completely mind-wiped. Thundercracker and Skywarp are going to be in the show (They released character art), but they're both starting as Decepticons. And I haven't even heard of Waspinator being in the show. (Not to mention a wasp alt-mode wouldn't make sense, since most Transformers don't like organics.

what if sari is techno-organic like in beast wars.
or she could unknowingly be a pretender-type robot.

the autobot traitor could be either swindle or ironhide.
my opinion is that it is ironhide faking that video feed somehow and its all a trap.

primeoptimus wrote:what if sari is techno-organic like in beast wars.
or she could unknowingly be a pretender-type robot.

I'm quite sure she is a techno-organic something-or-other. More organic than Blackarachnia, more techno than a normal person. (Which is why she's a lot less awkward around machines than she is around normal people)

primeoptimus wrote:the autobot traitor could be either swindle or ironhide.
my opinion is that it is ironhide faking that video feed somehow and its all a trap.

Swindle makes sense, but I doubt it's Ironhide. If he faked a video saying he was being shot at on the Galactic Rim, someone would be bound to notice, either in the form of "Hey, how did you get back here?" or "Hey, we didn't send you out there."

Shadowman wrote:

primeoptimus wrote:what if sari is techno-organic like in beast wars.
or she could unknowingly be a pretender-type robot.

I'm quite sure she is a techno-organic something-or-other. More organic than Blackarachnia, more techno than a normal person. (Which is why she's a lot less awkward around machines than she is around normal people)

primeoptimus wrote:the autobot traitor could be either swindle or ironhide.
my opinion is that it is ironhide faking that video feed somehow and its all a trap.

Swindle makes sense, but I doubt it's Ironhide. If he faked a video saying he was being shot at on the Galactic Rim, someone would be bound to notice, either in the form of "Hey, how did you get back here?" or "Hey, we didn't send you out there."

good point. ut what about this: spoiler!!!!!!!!!!

















swindle appears in "fistful a energon ", so this adds to the confusion.

I'm actually betting on Shockwave. He's smart enough to not blow his cover, and is probably just as loyal to Megatron as Lugnut.

Sorry if I went a little over board and nuts ok, look I am a loyal transformers fan and been with it since G1. This show reminds me alot of G1 and some would even say it could be a G1 spinoff more than a connector or any suplots or refreneces to the LIVE ACTION movie besides the allspark and that is totally diffrent now being small instead of a Giant Asteriod Cube Box not it is a small portable box with a All Spark Key and Fragements which are scattered throughout earth now may be even in space but doubt it could be that far. Since the allspark has connections to earth like Sari and being able to reanimate earth vechicles and machines into protoform cybertronians sort or like the Key to Victor Sigma from G1.

But on my Bulkhead Theory the reason I said he might be it is because of the upcoming episode A Bridge Too Close Prt. 1 & 2 which Megatron needs Bulkhead in order to take over Cybertron.

Also I mean to say that she could be a transorganic sort of like Blackarachnia my mind went blank and I forgot about the incident with Elita-1 so something similar could have happened to Sari.

3. Waspinator and Omega Supreme is rumored for now and if they do make apperaeance it will be a cameo sort of like Spike and Carly was.
I dig they new look for Thundercracker he is cool almost like Starscream is just a repaint.

4. There are many possiblities on who the Spy is and we probably wont know until the end of season 2. Also there has been rumors of Galvatron being back in but as a upgraded Megatron or a New Decipticon is anyone;s guess.

5. They will be new Combiners, Link-Ups as far as we no but anything is possible since it is still only in early season 2 now so I say we keep quiet about it set back and watch one of the best TF cartoons that has been out in a while.

This is one of my favs besides the Unicron Trilogy the only ones I dont like is Beast Machines and RiD which I doubt will ever see the lite of day in the US much like Headmasters, Victory, and Supergod Masterforce. I am 27 and I still enjoy TF and I liked the Live Action movie even though it did focus too much on Human Emotions and Humor but at times were welcomed additions. But I hope these are done better in TF 2 and we get an explanations as why wanna of the biggest bad ass Bad Guys of all time Megatron was killed so easily he would of usually abosred the power but I dont understand why he and the other Decipticons were killed so easily by the Human Military.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Sorry if I went a little over board and nuts ok, look I am a loyal transformers fan and been with it since G1. This show reminds me alot of G1 and some would even say it could be a G1 spinoff more than a connector or any suplots or refreneces to the LIVE ACTION movie besides the allspark and that is totally diffrent now being small instead of a Giant Asteriod Cube Box not it is a small portable box with a All Spark Key and Fragements which are scattered throughout earth now may be even in space but doubt it could be that far. Since the allspark has connections to earth like Sari and being able to reanimate earth vechicles and machines into protoform cybertronians sort or like the Key to Victor Sigma from G1.

But on my Bulkhead Theory the reason I said he might be it is because of the upcoming episode A Bridge Too Close Prt. 1 & 2 which Megatron needs Bulkhead in order to take over Cybertron.

Also I mean to say that she could be a transorganic sort of like Blackarachnia my mind went blank and I forgot about the incident with Elita-1 so something similar could have happened to Sari.

3. Waspinator and Omega Supreme is rumored for now and if they do make apperaeance it will be a cameo sort of like Spike and Carly was.
I dig they new look for Thundercracker he is cool almost like Starscream is just a repaint.

4. There are many possiblities on who the Spy is and we probably wont know until the end of season 2. Also there has been rumors of Galvatron being back in but as a upgraded Megatron or a New Decipticon is anyone;s guess.

5. They will be new Combiners, Link-Ups as far as we no but anything is possible since it is still only in early season 2 now so I say we keep quiet about it set back and watch one of the best TF cartoons that has been out in a while.

This is one of my favs besides the Unicron Trilogy the only ones I dont like is Beast Machines and RiD which I doubt will ever see the lite of day in the US much like Headmasters, Victory, and Supergod Masterforce. I am 27 and I still enjoy TF and I liked the Live Action movie even though it did focus too much on Human Emotions and Humor but at times were welcomed additions. But I hope these are done better in TF 2 and we get an explanations as why wanna of the biggest bad ass Bad Guys of all time Megatron was killed so easily he would of usually abosred the power but I dont understand why he and the other Decipticons were killed so easily by the Human Military.

For Animated Megatron... I do belive he will at some point be upgraded into Galvatron. Galvatron as a seperate character is highly unlikely as it's never even been attempted before. (At least not in the cartoons)

What is a definate mystery is if Galvatron will be a new mold like G1 or a repaint of Megatron like all the others. I'm sick and tierd of repaint wannabe Galvatrons so I hope to Hasbro for a new mold.

If Galvatron does turn out to be a repaint I will refuse to even call it Galvatron just like I refuse to call his Energon counterpart "Megatron", I mean come on, the paint job means nothing. If you look like G1 Galvatron that's what I'm calling you. Animated Megatron looks like G1 Megatron so I don't care how they paint it or what they call it, it's Megatron to me.

As for Movie Megatron, this is a little off topic but I wouldn't be so quick to say he's dead. I have a verry strong feeling that he's still alive. They can't actully kill off the main villain in the first movie otherwise there can't be a sequill. Either Megatron will come back as Galvatron in TF2 upgraded by the AllSpark energy and was only temporally knocked out while his body agested to the change or there won't be a TF2.

Unless of course they decide to use Unicron for TF2 in which case they won't need Megatron/Galvatron but that seems a little early to introduce him.

The other option with the heavy human involvment in the movie is that they borrow some of the human villains from Animated. Meltdown and/or Headmaster would work well for the movie as long as they don't keep the same personality for Headmaster as he has in the cartoon and Meltdown is made a little less cartoony.

Shadowman wrote:I'm actually betting on Shockwave. He's smart enough to not blow his cover, and is probably just as loyal to Megatron as Lugnut.

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correct! shockwave is in autoboot camp. he is in disguise as a new recruit named longarm. he can extend his arms like mr.fantstic in fantastic 4

primeoptimus wrote:

Shadowman wrote:I'm actually betting on Shockwave. He's smart enough to not blow his cover, and is probably just as loyal to Megatron as Lugnut.

spoiler!!!!!!!!!




























correct! shockwave is in autoboot camp. he is in disguise as a new recruit named longarm. he can extend his arms like mr.fantstic in fantastic 4

I am so going to Vegas next chance I get.

Megatron's probably got a whole fanclub of one-eyed yes men.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

I guess your not much of a history student

Animated would not be the first TF show in history to not have any combining characters.

Both Beast Wars and Beast Machines shows had no Gestalts or Linking characters.

The closest thing in Beast wars was Tigerhawk who was the result of two sparks being fused into one.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Rodimus2006 wrote:Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

I guess your not much of a history student

Animated would not be the first TF show in history to not have any combining characters.

Both Beast Wars and Beast Machines shows had no Gestalts or Linking characters.

The closest thing in Beast wars was Tigerhawk who was the result of two sparks being fused into one.

I was actully thinking the same thing when I read that post but...

If you look at the Japanise series (BWII and Neo) they DO have gestalts. BW even had the Tripdicus Council appear in an episode and even though they looked nothing like their toys when they made that appearance they were based on one of the Gestalt teams.

So really Beast Machines is the only series before this not to include Gestalts and chances are Rodimus2006 never watched the series. I might allso point out Beast Machines didn't even have gestalts in the toy line.

One could allso say the Movie doesn't have any gestalts but there's a possibility that they could appear in a sequill. There's allso an equill possibility that they could appear later in Animated. Either way I wouldn't be so quick to say "there are no gestalts"

Rodimus2006 wrote:1. Arcee - Since she had her memory erased, she is now a decipticon spy this would make since cause she is suppose to be in the elite gaurd as an intelligence officer and she could have many secrets that could have Megatron take over cybertron from within such as access codes.

2. Waspinator
3. Thundercracker
4. Sentinel Prime - You could tell bye the way he acts toward Optimus he could be working with the Decipticons from within he is right next to Ultramagnus and has all kinds of information he could easily access. Plus he could easlily get away with it also

5. Iron Hide
6. Thundercracker
7. Skywarp
8. Swindle he could blind in as an autobot if he is sticking to his combaticon roots.

Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

Boot I hope Optimus gets some cool upgrades later on somewhat similar or bring in some mini-cons.

Actually I think it's Shockwave. Somewhere I saw a description in the episode "Autobot Camp" and it said that Shockwave contacts Megatron (in order not to spoil the episode, I won't tell much more). What I'm thinking: If it is Shockwave who contacts Megatron, dis doesn't mean that Shockave is the ONLY double agent. I believev that the other double agent is Ironhide, because when he contacted Ultra Magnus, why wasn't he shot from the Decepticons in order to stop the distress call? Because he is their ally (those are only my thoughts.)

An_de wrote:I believev that the other double agent is Ironhide, because when he contacted Ultra Magnus, why wasn't he shot from the Decepticons in order to stop the distress call? Because he is their ally (those are only my thoughts.)

If he sold out the base, why did he send out a distress call?

An_de wrote:

Rodimus2006 wrote:1. Arcee - Since she had her memory erased, she is now a decipticon spy this would make since cause she is suppose to be in the elite gaurd as an intelligence officer and she could have many secrets that could have Megatron take over cybertron from within such as access codes.

2. Waspinator
3. Thundercracker
4. Sentinel Prime - You could tell bye the way he acts toward Optimus he could be working with the Decipticons from within he is right next to Ultramagnus and has all kinds of information he could easily access. Plus he could easlily get away with it also

5. Iron Hide
6. Thundercracker
7. Skywarp
8. Swindle he could blind in as an autobot if he is sticking to his combaticon roots.

Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.

Boot I hope Optimus gets some cool upgrades later on somewhat similar or bring in some mini-cons.

Actually I think it's Shockwave. Somewhere I saw a description in the episode "Autobot Camp" and it said that Shockwave contacts Megatron (in order not to spoil the episode, I won't tell much more). What I'm thinking: If it is Shockwave who contacts Megatron, dis doesn't mean that Shockave is the ONLY double agent. I believev that the other double agent is Ironhide, because when he contacted Ultra Magnus, why wasn't he shot from the Decepticons in order to stop the distress call? Because he is their ally (those are only my thoughts.)

Um... correction, he WAS shot at to end the transmittion. Why do you think it cut off at the end like it did. The transmittion went to complete static in the middle of a sentence.

Why would he send out a destress call at all if he was a Decepticon? It doesn't make any sence if you're a Decepticon to call the Autobots for help in a Decepticon attack.