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Postby OptimusN1701 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:20 pm

Ok, I just got back from seeing this one, and it was amazing.
Gotta be the best one of the series so far

So anybody else see this yet/plan on seeing it?
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Postby MaikeruSama » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:26 pm

I went to go see it just becuase it had X-Japans song as the theme in it. It was ok I dont really like horror movies.
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Postby Bumblebee-otch » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:42 pm

it was ok, i guess. but i have a question
*spoiler-warning!*

how did they get jigsaw's body for the oh-so-confusing autopsy scene, if hoffman locked the FBI agent in the room with it? was he let free or what?


*end spoiler*
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:47 pm

Im not exactly sure, but remember, Saw V and VI have already been confirmed, and these movies arent always linear
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Postby Bumblebee-otch » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:54 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:Im not exactly sure, but remember, Saw V and VI have already been confirmed, and these movies arent always linear


yeah i realized that when my brain almost exploded trying to comprehend that the "bullet collar-scene" and all that was occurring at the same time as the rest of the movie. since the jigsaw guy has signed on for both sequels (dude must be making some serious $$$) i would like to see a prequel. they could easily expand on his origins, more than what we "saw." :P and it would be cool to see him designing and testing early traps. these movies are a MAJOR guilty pleasure for me!
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:01 am

Bumblebee-otch wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Im not exactly sure, but remember, Saw V and VI have already been confirmed, and these movies arent always linear


yeah i realized that when my brain almost exploded trying to comprehend that the "bullet collar-scene" and all that was occurring at the same time as the rest of the movie. since the jigsaw guy has signed on for both sequels (dude must be making some serious $$$) i would like to see a prequel. they could easily expand on his origins, more than what we "saw." :P and it would be cool to see him designing and testing early traps. these movies are a MAJOR guilty pleasure for me!


Im sure the next one will focus on the FBI agent locked up in operating room, and end where this one began
The last film will most likely focus on the detective's "test" I'm guessing
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Postby Bumblebee-otch » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:04 am

OptimusN1701 wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Im not exactly sure, but remember, Saw V and VI have already been confirmed, and these movies arent always linear


yeah i realized that when my brain almost exploded trying to comprehend that the "bullet collar-scene" and all that was occurring at the same time as the rest of the movie. since the jigsaw guy has signed on for both sequels (dude must be making some serious $$$) i would like to see a prequel. they could easily expand on his origins, more than what we "saw." :P and it would be cool to see him designing and testing early traps. these movies are a MAJOR guilty pleasure for me!


Im sure the next one will focus on the FBI agent locked up in operating room, and end where this one began
The last film will most likely focus on the detective's "test" I'm guessing


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Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:07 am

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Bumblebee-otch wrote:SAW is the new LOST. keeps going and going, with no end in sight!


Nope. LOST has an end.. NOT this season (which starts in Feb) but the 2009 season.

Abrams said that when he did an interview on the Howard Stern show.

And for the record, I have never watched any of the Saw movies.. I just never had an interest in them.
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Postby Barricade » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:06 pm

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just saw the movie and i have to say i did not see that ending coming....... but i like how they linked the 3rd and 4th movie
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Postby Bumblebee-otch » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:21 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Bumblebee-otch wrote:SAW is the new LOST. keeps going and going, with no end in sight!


Nope. LOST has an end.. NOT this season (which starts in Feb) but the 2009 season.

Abrams said that when he did an interview on the Howard Stern show.

And for the record, I have never watched any of the Saw movies.. I just never had an interest in them.



ok, that was a bad analogy. how about "SAW is the new energizer battery. keeps going and going, with no end in sight!" ?
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Postby Carnosaur » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:38 am

hello it carnoaur just want to i don't want know anything about saw 4 haven't seen it :)
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Postby Me, Grimlock! » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:04 am

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I thought it was pretty cool. It was better than expected anyway, and so many assumptions of mine about previous Saws were proven wrong. They even used the same trick as before where the captive (IV) or dead guy (I) turned out to be the orchestrator. I wouldn't call it the best one, but it definitely doesn't suffer from being a sequel, especially being a third sequel.

OptimusN1701 wrote:and these movies arent always linear


That's what gives me a headache. Oy. I feel I have to memorize the previous movies to follow these ones. I guess I have some studying to do before V.

The theme song, as always, never gets old. :grin:

Bumblebee-otch wrote:more than what we "saw."


Aaarrggghhhh!! You have me writhing on the floor!
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Postby KILLTRONBOT 9000 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:16 pm

Not seen any of them and don't really want to, to be honest. Watching people get carved up isn't my idea of a good time! :P

On a slightly more topic-centric note, why aren't they linear? This sounds like it could be an interesting quirk; but is it simply so they can make several thousand Saw films...?
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Postby Me, Grimlock! » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:30 pm

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KILLTRONBOT 9000 wrote:On a slightly more topic-centric note, why aren't they linear? This sounds like it could be an interesting quirk; but is it simply so they can make several thousand Saw films...?


It works for them well. It's one of those you'd have to have seen them things.
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Postby KILLTRONBOT 9000 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:35 pm

Fair enough. Just struck me as a cunning plan so that if the franchise had flopped then they could've gone "yes, we planned it like that!" and if - as is the case - it's done really well, they can then produce as many as they want.

But if it genuinely has a cinematic benefit, then fair play to 'em! :)
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:32 pm

KILLTRONBOT 9000 wrote:Not seen any of them and don't really want to, to be honest. Watching people get carved up isn't my idea of a good time! :P

On a slightly more topic-centric note, why aren't they linear? This sounds like it could be an interesting quirk; but is it simply so they can make several thousand Saw films...?


The non linearity throws the audience off, and makes it harder to guess whats going to happen

This way the end of the movie is a surprise and much more intriguing

For example, I never saw Captivity but i used common sense to determine a major plot point the guy in the cell next to her was one of the captors
I looked it up and I was right

I cant do that with the Saw films, so its like a challeneg to figure it out before the movie ends
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Postby Korikon » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:39 pm

Ah, my boyfiend said that he guessed all the plot twists in Saw III, which is what ruined the film for him. I haven't seen III or IV yet (so I don't have any input on that) but I did love the first two.

I think the plot twist on the first one was amazing :shock:
I'm not to keen on watching Saw III because it has a lot more gore and apparently that detracts from the plot. What do you guys think? I just know that Angel Trap = NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO SEE. Or that one with ripping hooks out of his lip..

Yeah.... the franchise really isn't for people who can't stand mutilations. I thought I couldn't, but you just have to remember that it's not real, and as soon as you pay attention to the plot it's all worth it, because the storyline is amazing ^^

I probably will get to watching the next two films eventually lol. And yes, it does seem like Saw never ends XD
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Postby gogleman374 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:49 pm

Me and my peeps may see it sunday.

I have only seen 1 and 2 on DVD, So I will hit the video store and rent the third.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:39 pm

gogleman374 wrote:Me and my peeps may see it sunday.

I have only seen 1 and 2 on DVD, So I will hit the video store and rent the third.


Definately a good idea man
Or else this one wont make any sense at all towards the end
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Postby Carnosaur » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:19 pm

i have all 3 saw and there awesome dvd to me :)
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Postby Predaprince » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:28 pm

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The Saw films are the only "human-centered" horror films that I am into. I'm more zombie and monster as far as horror.

The Saw series is an excellent way to bring actual thought into the horror genre. With that said, though, I just got back from seeing the fourth and it wasn't on the same level as the other three. It was good, but I'm very doubtful, given what I saw with this one, that there should be a V and VI.

The revolutions of Jigsaw's past in this one were to specfic to the character. Plus, the central character this time was not very interesting nor connective. In the others, there was connection with the central character, but here there wasn't and it made me not care if he did succeed or not. Plus, there wasn't many surprise in the ending to this one. It seems like they just took items from the surprising plot-twists from the first films and just reused them with different characters.

I own and watch the first three films quite often, but I'm not too sure I'm going to care to purchase the fourth one when it comes to DVD.
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Postby NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:16 am

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I liked Saw 4...

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Saw 4 takes place at the same time as Saw 3, which is why the FBI agent finds Jeff in the room with Johns body when John is killed. The autopsy scene scres people up, it is shown in the very beginning, but actually takes place after the Swat team commander has failed his test, and Jeff has killed John. How the body gets out and is autopsy'd with the fBI agent locked in the room we don't yet know, or why the cop has been helping John is still unknown, likely to be answered in 5 and 6 I imagine.

I really can't wait for 5 and 6!
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