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by **Sailor Destron** » Mon May 30, 2011 6:57 pm

Who would win this one? I'm cuious.

by **Trailblaze95** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:10 am

Going by the movies and what ive heard, The Fallen is a massively powerful being of evil but his flaw is the fact that only a prime can defeat him. Now from what ive gathered, Sentinel Prime was the last decendant before optimus lost on the ark. He is and expert fighter and great commander. The fact that he is a prime adds an advantage. So since Optimus could do it i believe Sentinel Prime would win this battle. And it would be epic to see.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:12 pm

Maybe Sentinel Prime, because the Autobots always win. But if it was a "real life" fight, The Fallen would win. He has more experience. But he was imprisoned for a few million years.

News Credits: 2 · by **Twitchythe3rd** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:54 pm

Sentinel Prime by virtue of him being a decendant of the Prime Dynasty.

by **Sailor Destron** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:29 am

Its interesting the Fallen dosen't get more respect seeing that his stats are all maxed out at infinity.

And he's evil. But Sentinal is a Prime and as pointed out the Fallen can only be beaten by a Prime. Okay, I'm just repeating stuff here, so... I think Sentinal is an ass so he would probably win anyway, and the Fallen lasted only a few minites in the movie, and Sentinal is stronger than Optimus, and it took Optimus only like, two minites to destroy the Fallen. I still think it would be a good fight, if the writers would give the Fallen some respect and power him up.

by **Trailblaze95** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:17 pm

Well if the Fallen had Infinity stats, He would of kicked primes ass in the movie, But that certainly didnt happen. Although we cant quite be sure about how much power Sentinel has until we see the movie...SO well have to wait and see

by **Primus Skywarp** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Im afraid i would have to back the Fallen on this one, Since Optimus was all powered up with jetfires parts when he destroyed the fallen in this movie from the pictures ive seen it looks like sentinel has no powered up form but he and optimus seem equals. so i would say the fallen would win.

by **Sailor Destron** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:08 pm

Trailblaze95 wrote:Well if the Fallen had Infinity stats, He would of kicked primes ass in the movie, But that certainly didnt happen. Although we cant quite be sure about how much power Sentinel has until we see the movie...SO well have to wait and see

The Fallen DOES have infinity stats acording to his bio on his toy.

by **zenosaurus_x** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:33 pm

Sailor Destron wrote:The Fallen DOES have infinity stats acording to his bio on his toy.

Toy=/=Movie.
For Movie characters, you have to go by...the movie...
Anyways, I want to go with The Fallen, though Sentinel is a Prime, Optimus was upgraded (and awesome anyways) and we don't know much about Sentinel, I'm going to guess that he's powerful but I don't think he's at The Fallen's level.

by **Trailblaze95** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:38 am

Sailor Destron wrote:
Trailblaze95 wrote:Well if the Fallen had Infinity stats, He would of kicked primes ass in the movie, But that certainly didnt happen. Although we cant quite be sure about how much power Sentinel has until we see the movie...SO well have to wait and see

The Fallen DOES have infinity stats acording to his bio on his toy.

I wasnt saying the fallen didnt have infinity stats, I was just saying that he didnt in the movie because like Zenosaur said it wouldnt work, Besides why do you all think sentinel would fail just because he doesnt have upgrades? hes still an awesome combatant...

by **JetOptimus23** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:01 pm

Sentinel, because he's a Prime.

by **dinogeist** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:41 am

Sailor Destron wrote:Who would win this one? I'm cuious.

we haven't seen the DOTM movie yet. Their is no knowing how strong or weak DOTM Sentinel prime is. He could be a bit weak & outdated like Cybertron Vector prime.

This question will best get answered after some we've seen the DOTM movie in theathres.

I agree with another replier in this thread. The ROTF fallen was a extremly powerful being. It took a fusion of optimus+jetfire to defeat him.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:22 am

Going by the book adaptation and other stuff I've seen and heard, Sentinel Prime is a bad motherf**ker. Combine that with the fact that he is a Prime (The Fallen's only weakness) and it's a no-brainer, Sentinel owns The Fallen.

by **Arrancon** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:20 pm

The Fallen would kick Sentinel's ass because...

>He can teleport without Setinels pillars

>His staff can lift things in the air like in ROTF, while Sentinel's is just really really sharp

>He slaughtered 11 (7?) of his brothers, WHO WERE ALL PRIMES like Setinel.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:14 pm

Sentinel. He is super effective against the Fallen.

by **dinogeist** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:55 pm

Sailor Destron wrote:Who would win this one? I'm cuious.

To answer this thread question honestly....

Both fights had some cheating elements in it. similar to those cheating fights in the WWF Wrestling.

(1)Optimus Prime in ROTF got his body ripped apart & returned back from a coma. then got quickly put on the operating table,had the matrix & the jetfire armor repair him. comming off the operating table & being thrust into battle is hardly fair at measuring someones strenght & power.

(1a)had optimus not got into the previous fight with megatron & the decepticons in Rotf. optimus might have been able to defeat the fallen without the jetfire armor.

(1c)As it stands optimus cheated in the battle against the fallen. because optimus used the jetfire armor to defeat the fallen. optimus didn't defeat the fallen by himself but with the aid of the jetfire armor.

(2)Optimus Verse sentinel prime also had some cheating elements. megatron had to interfere in the fight to weaken sentinel a bit. then optimus swooped in & defeated sentinel.

(2a) when optimus in rotf fought the fallen he was wearing the jetfire armor. when optimus fought sentinel in DOTM he wasn't wearing the jetfire armor.

(2b)Sentinel was clearly stronger than optimus. we'll never know if wearing the jetfire armor would have made optimus more stronger in the sentinel fight. because it was never shown.

by **zenosaurus_x** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:27 am

zenosaurus_x wrote:
Sailor Destron wrote:The Fallen DOES have infinity stats acording to his bio on his toy.

Toy=/=Movie.
For Movie characters, you have to go by...the movie...
Anyways, I want to go with The Fallen, though Sentinel is a Prime, Optimus was upgraded (and awesome anyways) and we don't know much about Sentinel, I'm going to guess that he's powerful but I don't think he's at The Fallen's level.

Disregard this all, I now think Sentinel is far superior...

by **snavej** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:15 pm

The Fallen has super powers but Sentinel brought Cybertron to Earth. The armies of Cybertron could overwhelm The Fallen, probably before he can activate the pyramid machine. Sentinel wins, with help.