The Energon Pub

[Cyberpath]

Next is LG54 Bumblebee. I still love the fact that these tiny "Legends" class figures have room for a driver. Also, Takara upgraded the car-mode from the Hasbro edition -- clear windshields so you can actually see the driver and silver rims. (But don't get used to it.)

It can even accommodate MP-10 Spike.

The transformations in this line continue to impress me, this one folds like an origami. Articulation is what you'd expect from this size class.

And I like that they've included Spike/Cerebros. (A body/transtector would be nice. The head goes pretty well with Doublecross though.)

[Sabrblade]

Interestingly enough, not only is the Headmaster body for Spike's Exosuit an all new mold, but his Cerebros face is likewise a fully new mold that's completely different from the Cerebros face of Hasbro's Emissary Titan Master.

[Cyberpath]

I wonder what bugged them about the original sculpt. Pity Perceptor didn't get the same treatment. His face looks off model compared to how accurate the other ones are. Even the pack-in manga used the cartoon face. (The box was strangely big btw!)

[fenrir72]

I wonder what bugged them about the original sculpt. Pity Perceptor didn't get the same treatment. His face looks off model compared to how accurate the other ones are. Even the pack-in manga used the cartoon face. (The box was strangely big btw!)

Izzat the Guido style in AHM? Perceptor I mean. As for the transtector, don't you have a Takara Fortmax? Fortress can share the transtector with "Spike".

Also, all these #3 Destron targetmaster jets(already completed mine) are simply awesome! The redecos of the HMs are outrageously delish!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I wonder what bugged them about the original sculpt.

Probably nothing, but separating a Titan Master from a toy that large (ergo with a *lot* of gang-molded parts) would have been too wasteful to consider. Besides, it builds upon The Rebirth with the tech used by Daniel's exo-suit.

[RodimusRex]

I admit some ignorance on the process but wouldn't they be making 3D printed molds directly from 3D files now?

I know Hasbro uses 3D printed extensively internally now. And I assumed that's how the retools and shared engineering since CW worked.

It's all just 3D objects in files where gang molding is concerned. And I suspect reissues are being built from 3D scans rather than original molds, which is how figures with "lost" molds have been reissued. (It would also account for why KO quality is so sharp now and how KO companies actually have resources to subtly fix or improve figures. And also why proportions are sometimes distorted in ways that a cast probably wouldn't generate like KO Masterpiece Sideswipe's head.)

My best guess would be that Takara didn't think Cerebros was toon accurate enough and happened to have time in the schedule. And with Perceptor? They probably didn't have time in the schedule.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I admit some ignorance on the process but wouldn't they be making 3D printed molds directly from 3D files now?

I know Hasbro uses 3D printed extensively internally now. And I assumed that's how the retools and shared engineering since CW worked.

It's all just 3D objects in files where gang molding is concerned. And I suspect reissues are being built from 3D scans rather than original molds, which is how figures with "lost" molds have been reissued. (It would also account for why KO quality is so sharp now and how KO companies actually have resources to subtly fix or improve figures. And also why proportions are sometimes distorted in ways that a cast probably wouldn't generate like KO Masterpiece Sideswipe's head.)

My best guess would be that Takara didn't think Cerebros was toon accurate enough and happened to have time in the schedule. And with Perceptor? They probably didn't have time in the schedule.

Only for testing purposes, really. 3D printing is nowhere near the quality of the traditional cast molds. Again, Emissary comes with a really big toy, and using only him would be a real waste with all the extra parts cast.

[fenrir72]

Wrong post

[kurthy]

Why are you posting Takara Power of the Primes line links in the legends thread?

Edit: never mind

[Emerje]

Only for testing purposes, really. 3D printing is nowhere near the quality of the traditional cast molds. Again, Emissary comes with a really big toy, and using only him would be a real waste with all the extra parts cast.

No, the 3D data isn't used for printing figures, but it is used for tooling out metal molds. Thing is when you're already going to the trouble of making a new body mode for the Headmaster then it really makes no difference whether the face is new or old.

Emerje

[Cyberpath]

The last of the batch, LG56 Perceptor. Some random thoughts: Great microscope mode! Really invokes the original. Great colours, too. Love the transformation. The body also looks good. But the head & face-sculpt... ugh. Why didn't Takara redo it? The shape of the eyes is wrong.. and the extreme cheek-bones and chin.. I wonder if it's the same guy who sculpted the faces of MP Starscream & Sideswipe and UW4 Hook. Even the manga artist was like "eh, forget this."

Articulation's good. Balance is a little off when standing straight, good thing that he has those tank-mode heels.

Gotta say that Ramhorn is impressive for its size. Lots of moving parts, and the paint is fantastic!

They both have a "tank" mode.

And as I was shooting this stuff I realised that I now have the "Microbots" bots!

Also, the microscope works pretty well with Masterpiece.

Perceptor has a different neck port than the other Headmasters, it didn't fit every head so I had to shave slightly to do this..

"Four million years ago, a group of small Autobots left Cybertron in search of a new home. They crashed landed on the planet "Master." One among them was the brilliant bot known as Brainstorm."

"To survive the planet's brutal environment, these Autobots developed the ability to transform into heads that inhabit bigger robotic bodies known as "Transtectors.""

"Eventually these Autobots reunited with their kin on Cybertron."

"One day, Brainstorm was plucked from his reality by a group of misplaced Transformers, each one from a different dimension. Their leader Jetfire (formerly known as Skyfire) invited Brainstorm to join them on their mission to fix destabilised worlds."

"On one of the team's many missions Brainstorm's Transtector was destroyed, requiring him to use a special battle car in its place."

"Another mission took them to a world where every Transformer was a Headmaster. Brainstorm quickly befriend the Autobot scientist, Perceptor."

"Unfortunately, Perceptor was slain in battle against the Decepticons of that world."

"Perceptor passed on his Transtector to Brainstorm in place of the one he had lost."

"Brainstorm and his team continue to travel from dimension to dimension maintaining the integrity of the multiverse."


I like my figures to have a back-story.

[Yotsuyasan]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

[chuckdawg1999]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

[Relic0037]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

I would take a crack at it, but while I have Blurr, my Doublecross figure probably won't be shipping with my Pile of Loot until next month.

[Wolfman Jake]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

I wonder if the Legends Blurr reissue/restock has been delayed because they are retooling it to accommodate the Haywire Targetmaster? Blurr, Scourge, and the others that were named and voted on for a reissue in the Legends line were supposed to come out at the end of December 2017. It's food for thought, at least.

[Sabrblade]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

I wonder if the Legends Blurr reissue/restock has been delayed because they are retooling it to accommodate the Haywire Targetmaster? Blurr, Scourge, and the others that were named and voted on for a reissue in the Legends line were supposed to come out at the end of December 2017. It's food for thought, at least.

The Legends Blurr and Scourge reissues already came out last month, unchanged from their first release.

[grimdragon2001]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

I wonder if the Legends Blurr reissue/restock has been delayed because they are retooling it to accommodate the Haywire Targetmaster? Blurr, Scourge, and the others that were named and voted on for a reissue in the Legends line were supposed to come out at the end of December 2017. It's food for thought, at least.

The Legends Blurr and Scourge reissues already came out last month, unchanged from their first release.

Yea, i figured theyd be unchanged. Still waiting for TFSource to get their shipment of LG Blurr in though, always seems its my shop of choice that gets it all last

[Yotsuyasan]

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

Then what are the extra clips on Haywire that people were speculating about for?

I would take a crack at it, but while I have Blurr, my Doublecross figure probably won't be shipping with my Pile of Loot until next month.

Well,if no one else is forthcoming before your Doublecross arrives, I'll take it! And if chuckdawg1999 is indeed correct about there not being a proper way to attach it in vehicle mode, I'll be happy to accept your best efforts towards an aproximation, even if it is just propping open the cockpit a bit and balancing it on top, or awkwardly tabbing it into one of the peg holes on Blurr's side.

[Wolfman Jake]

Hopefully people don't mind a request... I'm trying to find pictures of something. I looked through a number of pages of this thread, and did a search of the forums in general, all to no avail.

Anyway, to cut to the point, would anyone have any images, hopefully against a neutral background, of Blurr with the Haywire that came with Doublecross? Preferably showing Blurr wielding him in both modes? (Assuming Haywire can attach to Blurr's vehicle mode. I seem to recall some speculations that clips Haywire had that none of the others have was to facilitate that interaction.)

Finally, if anyone does have such images available, would you mind if I used a few (one for each mode) on my website? (Properly credited, of course.)

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

I wonder if the Legends Blurr reissue/restock has been delayed because they are retooling it to accommodate the Haywire Targetmaster? Blurr, Scourge, and the others that were named and voted on for a reissue in the Legends line were supposed to come out at the end of December 2017. It's food for thought, at least.

The Legends Blurr and Scourge reissues already came out last month, unchanged from their first release.

WTF, TFSource!? Every once in a while, they get something exceedingly late for apparently no good reason.

[Agamemnon]

Sorry to tell you but there was no way to attach Haywire to Blurr in vehicle mode

Then what are the extra clips on Haywire that people were speculating about for?

I would take a crack at it, but while I have Blurr, my Doublecross figure probably won't be shipping with my Pile of Loot until next month.

Well,if no one else is forthcoming before your Doublecross arrives, I'll take it! And if chuckdawg1999 is indeed correct about there not being a proper way to attach it in vehicle mode, I'll be happy to accept your best efforts towards an aproximation, even if it is just propping open the cockpit a bit and balancing it on top, or awkwardly tabbing it into one of the peg holes on Blurr's side.

I'm working a couple options and seeing if I can setup a quick neutral background for you. There doesn't appear to be a good way to attach Haywire to Blurr. Certainly the clips molded in do not match anything I see. And I am actually having an issue getting the gun handle to fit into the side holes on Blurr. I'll try to get something to work, though...

[Yotsuyasan]

I'm working a couple options...

Awesome!

[chuckdawg1999]

I'm working a couple options...

Awesome!

Whatever was thought of as extra clips are just part of Haywire. For what it's worth while Takara showed a pic of Blurr with Haywire in robot mode, they never showed vehicle mode.

[Nemesis Destron]

I just got Perceptor today and it's an epic figure. It totally supersedes United Perceptor in every way IMO.

BUT...did anyone else have a flaw like mine? Sorry for not being able to show an image.

The peg on his outer right leg looks to me like stress has started to form some how straight out of the box...?

Anyone else have this or am I a lucky one on this?

[Emerje]

Just opened my Slugslinger and it seemed fine at first, but just now looking at it standing my desk I realized he has two right hands. Going to have to contact AmiAmi about this one, but I'm not sure what they'll do about it.

Emerje

[Agamemnon]

Okay, Blurr and Haywire. I tried to mount Haywire on the side, but I paid too much for these legends figures to crack or stress them. The peg/hole was a very tight fit, so I didn't force it. I did sort of trap the feet of Haywire in the cockpit of Blurr. I don't like this setup very much... What do y'all think?

Right side view

Haywire kept sagging on me. It would be cool to get a more stable mounting on Blurr.

Above side

Three quarter view

From above, it doesn't look horrible.

Haywire closeup

In reference to retooling of Blurr to allow mounting of Haywire, I wonder if the speculation came about because of the post and tab molding shown here. However, that same molding is on the other two Targetmasters I got from Takara (Kup and Roddy).

Cheers!