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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:12 pm

Agamemnon wrote:(Saberblade found a pic a couple of years ago someone had done with the actual Conehead faces... I couldn't find it, though...)

I remember that! It was a digibash someone did of Chromia's knees rather than Arcee's.

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:06 am

MP-11NT Masterpiece Thrust is up at BBTS for $179.99.

Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive". I will wait for Hasbro to eventually release it, I dont care how long it takes.

For international buyers, Robot Kingdom has it for 150$ http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp11nt.html

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:08 am

william-james88 wrote:Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive".

Given how Ramjet was, I figured all three of the "New Jetrons" would be.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:14 am

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive".
Given how Ramjet was, I figured all three of the "New Jetrons" would be.

Every MP11 aside from Screamer has been exclusive and expensive so this is none too surprising.

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:15 am

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive".
Given how Ramjet was, I figured all three of the "New Jetrons" would be.

So of all the Seekers to use the MP11 mold, only Starscream was a standard release obtainable for 100$

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:20 am

shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive".
Given how Ramjet was, I figured all three of the "New Jetrons" would be.
Every MP11 aside from Screamer has been exclusive and expensive so this is none too surprising.

Oh I know, but its still sad. When I spend money, I like knowing that it went to the toys, or to the shipping, to something, that the price is dependent on the cost of production. But now its expensive simply because Takara is letting Hasbro Asia be the only option to distribute it globally. So that extra money being spent is just profit for them. Its pretty much the same result as a scalper buying every single toy out there and charging more for it because no one else is selling it.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:24 am

william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive".
Given how Ramjet was, I figured all three of the "New Jetrons" would be.
Every MP11 aside from Screamer has been exclusive and expensive so this is none too surprising.

Oh I know, but its still sad. When I spend money, I like knowing that it went to the toys, or to the shipping, to something, that the price is dependent on the cost of production. But now its expensive simply because Takara is letting Hasbro Asia be the only option to distribute it globally. So that extra money being spent is just profit for them. Its pretty much the same result as a scalper buying every single toy out there and charging more for it because no one else is selling it.

But with that reasoning, how would you ever be able to buy figures that weren't standard retail releases? It's just the nature of exclusives.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:24 am

william-james88 wrote:MP-11NT Masterpiece Thrust is up at BBTS for $179.99.

Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive". I will wait for Hasbro to eventually release it, I dont care how long it takes.

For international buyers, Robot Kingdom has it for 150$ http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp11nt.html

Well, the money for that immense leg kibble has to come from somewhere, this is essentially three (Ramjet, thrust, dirge) new molds for each of these, all in unique colors, so they can't even be molded together... so it at least makes some sense, but, that does seem a little high...

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:19 pm

shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Sigh, I didnt know it was also an "exclusive".
Given how Ramjet was, I figured all three of the "New Jetrons" would be.
Every MP11 aside from Screamer has been exclusive and expensive so this is none too surprising.

Oh I know, but its still sad. When I spend money, I like knowing that it went to the toys, or to the shipping, to something, that the price is dependent on the cost of production. But now its expensive simply because Takara is letting Hasbro Asia be the only option to distribute it globally. So that extra money being spent is just profit for them. Its pretty much the same result as a scalper buying every single toy out there and charging more for it because no one else is selling it.
But with that reasoning, how would you ever be able to buy figures that weren't standard retail releases? It's just the nature of exclusives.

Not really. Its different here. Hasbro MPs are TrU exclusives and I didnt have to spend extra. Same for platinums. And people in Japan buying from Takaratomymall arent paying 180$ US plus shipping. If this was a toy I really wanted, I wouldnt mind asking a japanese friend to get it for me in Japan and then ship it to me(if I had such resource). My cost would be the price of the figure, plus the shipping plus whatever fee this person would ask for this service. I would then be owning an exclusive figure.
But in this scenario, there is no middleman. The nature of exclusives is if something isnt available you are stuck paying more for middlemen, but Hasbro Asia isnt a middleman, they ar a partner. And this isnt an exclusive worldwide. Its only an exclusive in Japan. Worldwide, any other online retailer can carry it since they are buying from Hasbro Asia, which is the direct seller of this toy (not Takara).

So no, this is not an exclusive like others (non of these hasbro Asia MPs have been). No one buying this toy on BBTS is actualy buying the exclusive Japanese edition that can only be bought at TTMall. This is a non limited item available anywhere online and the direct provider (Hasbro Asia) is just taking a bigger cut than usual because there is no other option for fans to buy the Japanese edition (unlike say, the premium they usually charge for their version which isnt much, like with Shockwave its only 10$ more). In this case, there is no added costs to this being an exclusive, its not a third party company licensing a toy (like Fun Pub or Hero X), its not a mail order toy, its not a limited run, none of what usually goes with an exclusive, and thus I would not wish to pay anything more than Japanese retail plus shipping. I will just wait for a Hasbro release or a discount price.

In the end, people buying this on BBTS and not TTMall are spending more money on a less exclusive item.

Let me know if I am missing the mark or not being clear

PS: While it could be that part of the higher cost for getting the Hasbro Asia release over the Japanese release is that Hasbro Asia pays Takara a premium licensing fee to sell a Takara mold, thing still dont add up. Hasbro Asia SkyWarp and Thundercracker were 200$ while the two coneheads who have more overhead cost due to new tooling and design are 180$. So it really seems that the prices for the Hasbro Asia releases are not corelated with the actual cost of the figures or of obtaining them. And that is what is bothering me and what I am talking about.

by **EvilOmar** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:21 pm

I was hoping this one wouldn't be an exclusive too. I wish I had the will power to refuse to buy these.

News Credits: 34 · by **Logan.** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:25 am

New pic from the Tokyo Toy Show 2016

Comparison

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:32 am

Logan79 wrote:Comparison

Wha? There's less paint on the displayed figure.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:56 am

Anyone else find it a bit weird that TFSource doesn't have Masterpiece Thrust up for preorder yet, but BBTS does and has for several days now? What gives?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:33 pm

Somehow someway, Weibo user 烙魂Warden has acquired the upcoming TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NT Thrust! The remolded MP-11 Seeker is slated for release next month, so these in hand pics come as something of a surprise. We get to see the crimson Conehead in a variety of poses and angles, in both modes, and side by side with his brother Ramjet. What do you think of the latest Seeker on the block? Lets us know and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:42 pm

Is that sneer face the only face he comes with? are their optional faces? weird if thats the only one he has.

Like steve2275 on Facebook · by **steve2275** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:19 pm

Randomhero wrote:Is that sneer face the only face he comes with? are their optional faces? weird if thats the only one he has.

just the one
just watch

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:21 pm

Looking forward to this release as well as Dirge down the road because this picture doesn't look right!

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:30 pm

shajaki wrote:Somehow someway, Weibo user 烙魂Warden has acquired the upcoming TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NT Thrust! The remolded MP-11 Seeker is slated for release next month, so these in hand pics come as something of a surprise. We get to see the crimson Conehead in a variety of poses and angles, in both modes, and side by side with his brother Ramjet. What do you think of the latest Seeker on the block? Lets us know and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

Windblade is that you?
Seriously I never noticed the vehicle mode similarities before!

I want all the seekers, but the coneheads have been a bit pricey.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:49 pm

Relic0037 wrote:Looking forward to this release as well as Dirge down the road because this picture doesn't look right!

Dorf on Seekers? :-s

by **Fox Thiagarajan** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:01 pm

Hoping Hasbro decides to release these as well. Dirge might end up being my fav although Ramjet was my personal fav as a kid.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:21 am

Always liked the plane modes but hated the overly kibbled and dorky looking robot modes of the seekers especially the coneheads. But yeah awesome jet.

by **MGrotusque** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:08 pm

Man do i hate the MP Seeker molds. I'm also tired of looking at them every couple months when a new one comes along.

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:11 pm

MGrotusque wrote:Man do i hate the MP Seeker molds. I'm also tired of looking at them every couple months when a new one comes along.

What do you hate about it?

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:20 pm

I donno, man.... Thrust is one of my favorite seekers, just because he's got those cool VTOL turbines. But having the wings tucked at the LOWER body in those new photos? It makes him look like he's wearing Hammer pants. Which put the image in my skull of Thrust dancing around in front of the Autobots, singing 'Can't touch this'.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:42 pm

DeathReviews wrote:I donno, man.... Thrust is one of my favorite seekers, just because he's got those cool VTOL turbines. But having the wings tucked at the LOWER body in those new photos? It makes him look like he's wearing Hammer pants. Which put the image in my skull of Thrust dancing around in front of the Autobots, singing 'Can't touch this'.

It's accurate to his character model: