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in tf animated there are plenty of g1 characters but did you notic they ruined some g1 personalitys believe me animated is great.. the way they had soundwave talk like in g1 was amazing same with blurr and swindle. they made some screw ups though i mean in g1 rachet is young and is friendly IRON HIDE is the cranky one and hes the one was in so many battles not rachet. also scrapper is a genius not a dumb bot and mixmaster is a chemist who talks to him self "oo and a little of this ya and that hahaha." not a dumb construction worker who sound like hes is from new jeresy! no afence to any body from new jersy!

Prowl is significantly different than his former self too.

Ruined: A word that is thrown out a lot. It is sometimes confused with the other word "different" meaning not the same as something else. Ruined is a matter of opinion, different is fact.

Yes the personalities are different. I personally love the personalities of the Animated characters. The constructicon's are funny with their blue collar style and brooklyn voices.

When a specific characters personality is about the same for 25 years, sometimes a change is needed.

How can new personalities be "ruined"?

Oh wait, you're of the belief Animated is actually connected to G1 and that they're all the same characters.

My bad.

EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER!!!

Different Universe, different characters. Other than some homages and certain traits, these guys were never meant to be the same, and I like it that way.

So by comparison, is Beast Wars also ruined because it has characters with G1 names? R.I.D.? The Unicron Trilogy?

The only one you should be complaining about is Skywarp's personality. That is the only true travesty in Animated.

No one in Animated is "ruined". These characters are more homages to G1, not simple recreations. If you want stricktly G1 personalites, go to the IDW comics or fanfiction.

Also, while I would have liked Skywarp to be more formidable, he's fricking hilarous. "Us, against Megatron? Are you insane? I think I just sprang an oil leak." and "Not the stasis cuffs! I have an irational fear of stasis lock!" Priceless.

Hilarious!? Nevar!



Animated Skywarp's personality must be purged for great justice!

Zek Patterson wrote:Ruined: A word that is thrown out a lot. It is sometimes confused with the other word "different" meaning not the same as something else. Ruined is a matter of opinion, different is fact.

Yes the personalities are different. I personally love the personalities of the Animated characters. The constructicon's are funny with their blue collar style and brooklyn voices.

When a specific characters personality is about the same for 25 years, sometimes a change is needed.

ya you are sort of right!

ok ok you guys are right ruined is a harsh word to use i meant was diffrent becouse animated is so mch like g1 its not even funny but beast wars is amazing r.i.d. is ok ..not my fav.. but thre ok so if you post on this rememder i meant different not ruined!

People expect characters who look the same to act the same. It's like expecting M&Ms to taste like chocolate but instead they taste like fruit. It's not what you expected, but it's not necessarily bad. In fact, in the case of Skittles which I just described, it's a great change as chocolate can be overdone, much like a lot of the G1 personalities.

There's an analogy for you. It's similar to this.

On a similar note, I do not like Beast Machines because the characters look nothing like they used to. The change in an already existing universe with the same characters and personalities changed the outside too much. It's a different case.

Technically we're not seeing the same characters from G1. They're new characters who happen to have the same names as characters from G1.

They've done this in every new series, they're not the same characters, just have the same names. Allthough Armada, Energon and Cybertron were supose to be part of the same continuam so you could say they ruined thoughs characters. Suposidly if they were the same continuam then the characters were the same in each however some characters inexsplicably changed factions, bodies, personalitys, and accents for no good reason.

1. Armada Inferno, Mini-con partnered with Thrust. Energon Inferno, Autobot.

2. Every single Autobot in Armada had new forms in Energon and it was never exsplained why.

3. Energon Wing Saber had a COMPLETLY different additude and backround from Cybertron Wing Saber.

4. Everyone in Cybertron had different accents even characters from the previous series who never had accents before.

The abouve are just a few of many examples why thoughs 3 series are horribly connected. My exsplination...

1. The two Inferno's are completly different characters thus, it's a different continuam.

2. They didn't need to exsplain the upgrades because they never happened, they just allways looked like this in that continuam.

3. The two Wing Sabers were completly different characters, thus different continuams.

4. All the characters were not their same characters from the previous series and thus a new continuam.

Again, that's just my opinion. Offically the accents were exsplained on the web site as to why they had them when they didn't before and they might of even exsplained some of the other stuff I mentioned too but I think it's just lazy to tell it on the web site and not in the show. Especially in the case of Megatron's Armor in Cybertron.

According to his description on thier web site Cybertron Megatron actully used pieces of Unicron to create his new armor. You can see at least on Megatron where his armor does still contain simular coloring to the original Unicron. Galvatron's coloring might be based on the Energon repaint but I haven't paid that much attention to that one to say for sure.

I would of actully liked to have seen Megatron creating his Cybertron form out of Unicron pieces but that was never shown. He just randomly shows up one day looking like Unicron.

Anyway, back to Animated, they do look the most like thier G1 name sakes but they are still new characters. Optimus with the mouth plate off and in Cybertron mode actully looks a little like Orian Pax.

Blastback wrote:No one in Animated is "ruined". These characters are more homages to G1, not simple recreations. If you want stricktly G1 personalites, go to the IDW comics or fanfiction.

*pffft*

*titter*

BWHAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!

You guys kill me sometimes, you really do.

Sledge wrote:

Blastback wrote:No one in Animated is "ruined". These characters are more homages to G1, not simple recreations. If you want stricktly G1 personalites, go to the IDW comics or fanfiction.

*pffft*

*titter*

BWHAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!

You guys kill me sometimes, you really do.

Why Are you that blind that you never noticed Prime and Megatron being in love in the original fiction?

Yeah, I totally missed the homoerotic subtext between... hell, every character and every other character. For more criticism of bad fanfic, see about 50% of the Insecticomics.

I wouldn't really call anything where Transformers are made to be gay a "FAN" fiction. That's more like a giant insult to Transformers and why would anyone insult something they were a "FAN" of.

Saber Prime wrote:I wouldn't really call anything where Transformers are made to be gay a "FAN" fiction. That's more like a giant insult to Transformers and why would anyone insult something they were a "FAN" of.

While the slash fics are weird, I don't see them as an insult to Transformers. More like either a fantasy on the authur's part. And keep in mind that the Dreamwave Sunstreaker was infact considered by the writers to actually be gay.

Geewhine harder!

I think the series improved more characters, personally.

However, the only portrayals that I haven't liked are the Dinobots and the Constructacons.

The Dinobots are so dumb that they're useless!
And the Constructacons...I don't think I can add much more there that hasn't been said already.

RoboFunk Prime wrote:The Dinobots are so dumb that they're useless!

So they're exactly like their G1 counterparts. Well Grimlock is anyway the other two have become mutes.

I like the Constructicons personalitys. They fit the animation models perfectly. The personalitys would not go well with a G1 Constructicon that's for sure, but it works for this.

The reverse is allso true, if the animation models looked more like G1 then I would have a problem with the personality change.

I allso like the fact that they made Construction vehicles act like the stereotype of construction workers. (and not the village people kind)

Saber Prime wrote:

RoboFunk Prime wrote:The Dinobots are so dumb that they're useless!

So they're exactly like their G1 counterparts. Well Grimlock is anyway the other two have become mutes.

I like the Constructicons personalitys. They fit the animation models perfectly. The personalitys would not go well with a G1 Constructicon that's for sure, but it works for this.

The reverse is allso true, if the animation models looked more like G1 then I would have a problem with the personality change.

I allso like the fact that they made Construction vehicles act like the stereotype of construction workers. (and not the village people kind)

ya your right but i thing ultra magnus as leader is ...how should i put this..not wierd but diffrent. but they did lovingly update his viechle mode,same with jazz they reely did an amazing job on him becouse his atitude is just like g1 jazz and his car mode is the samne to. but nomatter how much g1 characters they put in animated the g1 cartoon is the coolest its funny now i sound like a canidate doing an insperational speech

The only thing keeping Animated from being the top TF cartoon is those awful human villains. I actualy like Sari, Prof. Sumdac and Fanzone.

But on topic, I agree that Ironhide and the Constructicons could be done a lot better. But Prowl has been done brilliantly, the way G1 Prowl should always have been done not like Furman's total disregard for tech specs, whiner-bot. although I do like RID Prowl as well.

The only thing I don't like about Sentinel Prime is the name, but then I'm not keen on what's been done with the whole Prime thing anyway.

If you want to see ruination of characters, go to IDW's Prowl (whiner), Sunstreaker(wuss), Thunderwing and Ramjet(poor man's Starscream).

That said, I liked their slant on Nightbeat, Hot Rod, Megatron,
Arcee (who I always despised) and especially Galvatron.

On topic, Animated have given us the best Megatron and Starscream since MTMTE. Love Ratchet and Prowl and even the original characters like Bulkhead and especially Lugnut. The only TF who comes close to annoying is Blitzwing and his crazy pumpkin face personality.

Again, the only awful characters are the human villains.

Dreamwave knew how to do those character