The Energon Pub

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:49 pm

Ok we all know that the universe was created as the result of the grate bang.

We all know that the grate bang was a big mass of energy the exploded, forming gas bubbles that later became suns, planets and moons.

Spawning live as simple one-celled creatures the evolved into what is now today on earth and other planets (why should we be the only planet with live in the universe?), but here's the question, : "Were did the energy come from?"

A lot of people believe in God ore Gods, that created live and earth, now could it be that there is that much truth in it, just the part that God is the creator of live.

But in a different way as it is believed, that God actuly is the energy of the grate bang, that we and everything around us are basely God, that the mater we are made of is what religions calls God.

That this would mean that both the evolution theory and the creation theory are true and actually part of the same thing.

What do you think about this, is it possible ore is it a silly thing?

{b]And please no [u]offending[/] of other cultures ore believes please![/b][/b]

by **Tammuz** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:04 pm

well the universe didn't start at the big bang, it was all there before the big bang, just in an infinitely small space, being infinitly dense, however as gravity warps space time(and being infinitl dense it had infinite gravity) time was infinitly warped, as such the rules of physics break down, and you cant predict what happened before the big bang

and dude could you clean up the first post a bit, it makes my dyslexia hurt...

by **Tangent** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:18 pm

Tammuz wrote:and dude could you clean up the first post a bit, it makes my dyslexia hurt...

Aye, I second that! It hurts alot.

The Universe has always been here, and always will be. The Big Bang is supposed to be an endless cycle isnt it? Unless the Big Rip happens, and man would that suck. No religion has any reference to anything akin to this in it, so I dont see how people can claim that God is/made the Big Bang. When people try to combine these it is simply because they are grasping at straws, now that science can explain away all the nonsence creation theory in the Bible. Well thats my opinion anway.

News Credits: 1 · by **Jeep?** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:26 pm

Allegory. As far as I'm concerned, that little immensely compact speck of time and space that went kersplode is God's doing. Creation story? Not seven actual days, but billions of years of evolution, cosmic happenings and poor fashion styles.

by **Tammuz** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:30 pm

well no becuase once you hit a singularity the rules of physics break down, so you can't predict what happens, anyway the scientific observation is that the universe is expanding at a accelerating rate, meaning the big cruch is unlikely without dark energy or a change in general relativity

anyway oscillating universes need to gain energy from somewhere, otherwise they eventually result in heat death

i disagree with the creationism analogy, even if the days ween't literal days the orders wrong, and they need to be of vastly different leangths of time to be close to reflecting reality.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:30 pm

I can't even comprehend the origin of live.

by **Loki120** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:51 pm

One of the more interesting theories, and one that is becoming more popular by the evidence is that all that energy and mass came about as an explosive collision by alternate dimensions. No really. If you ever get the chance, watch "The Universe", it appears on the History channel, the one about the Big Bang is pretty good.

by **DesalationReborn** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:58 pm

Tammuz wrote:and dude could you clean up the first post a bit, it makes my dyslexia hurt...

Well he is from Germany if I remember right, so there can be some leeway...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life

Anyway, it seems at least the basic compounds for basic life are easy to make, through the first was probably far from most anything we have to day. The earliest and most primitive we know of today are obligate anaerobic bacteria, which die when introduced to oxygen and can thrive in cyanide-rich areas.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:46 pm

I was going to watch that episode of "The Universe" tonight but my Grammy wanted to watch a Lifetime movie. And I let Grammy win. I'll get back to ya when I see it. Til then....no, God didn't create any universe or facilitate any big bang. No more than he created black holes that have probably eaten worlds with some form of life. Or no more than he sent a comet to kill the dinosaurs. Everything just IS.....

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:35 am

Is the first post better now?

Yes I am from Germany and I have dyslexia. So I have to use Firefox.

No I do not believe in God, I just stated that what people call God may just be the energy in the atoms we and everything around us are made of.

Meaning that he is no being, but just a name for energy.

That that the universe existed before is new to me, I was taled at school that it used to be just one mass of energy that just exploded and as it cools down still moves away from the original point.

And I do believe that the creation theory is just the simplified version of what really happened. Cos people back then were so stupid that it had to be said in a way they would understand.

OK?