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Counterpunch wrote:Sounds like a dreadful fan-wank.
I'm developing a theory that goes like this: The degree to which the Decepticons become sympathetic characters is directly proportional to the degree of fan-wank involved.
Counterpunch wrote:Sounds like a dreadful fan-wank.
I'm developing a theory that goes like this: The degree to which the Decepticons become sympathetic characters is directly proportional to the degree of fan-wank involved.
Duke of Luns wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Sounds like a dreadful fan-wank.
I'm developing a theory that goes like this: The degree to which the Decepticons become sympathetic characters is directly proportional to the degree of fan-wank involved.
Except, this is all officially licensed Takara material.
Sledge wrote:Let's face it: the kid would have to be a frickin' retard to believe a giant robot was it's father. I can't see a drooling half-wit human being a bonus in Transformer combat, no matter what armour you put him in.
Makes sense, when you put it that way...Savage wrote:While I do like to see my Decepticons as sadistic, evil creatures hellbent on galactic conquest, I do find it interesting to entertain the notion of Decepticon civilians. I mean, after all, there wouldnt be so many Decepticons if at least the majority didnt truly believe they were in the right.
Duke of Luns wrote:I was looking up Star Saber on the Transformers Wiki today, and learned of some very intersting things in the Victory Manga:
From the Deathsaurus page:
As a parallel to Star Saber's adoption of Jan, Deathsaurus had a "son" of his own, a human boy named Solon. Solon's mother was killed during a Decepticon attack on Earth, and who Deathsaurus "adopted", turning him into a cyborg and raising him to believe that he was his son. Solon had frequent clashes with Jan, whose school he began attending, which often degenerated into "my dad can beat up your dad"-style arguments as their "fathers" battled. At one point, Deathsaurus even attempted to bribe Jan into joining the Decepticons with toys, games, candy and cash.
Solon had his own battle armour and often rode Deathsaurus's Breastars as steeds, but when Victory Leo and Star Saber merged into Victory Saber, Deathsaurus sought a way to increase his own power in a similar fashion and crafted a Transformer-sized mech for Solon named King Solon, with which he was able to combine, forming King Zaras. However, in the midst of this battle, Solon discovered the truth about his mother, and his distraction allowed Victory Saber to destroy the King Solon mecha. Deathsaurus fled, abandoning Solon, who accepted his earthly heritage and joined the Autobots.
During the final battle, as Deathsaurus's fortress attacks the Earth, it is he who battles Star Saber in space (unlike the animated series, in which Liokaiser takes this role). Leozack, then, is able to take his treachery to the ultimate extreme by turning the fortress's power on Deathsaurus, and Deathsaurus cripples the craft with his cannon as Star Saber takes Leozack down. Then, the wounded Deathsaurus reveals the true reason he has quested to liberate the fortress from the Dark Nebula - it is home to the Decepticons' families and civilians. As the shocked Autobots discover this, they meet Deathsaurus's wife, Esmeryl and Deathsaurus and Star Saber then make peace, shaking hands and vowing to work together for the betterment of the Transformer race.
The combination of Solon's mech and Deathsaurs, King Zaras!:
At first I thought they were kidding, but they aren't. Pages about Leozack's sister and Deathsaurus's Wife:
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Lyzack
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Esmeryl
This takes things to a whole new level in my opinion, as none of this stuff is even hinted at in the actual anime'. I'll take it as an alternate Universe to Victory, and I really hope that tfarchive puts more issues up in the future, cause this is so strange I think it's awsome. Tfarchive has the first issue of Victory up, but it's pretty standard stuff.
It also once again raises the question of "Can transformers have kids?", and it appears they can.
Cannabis Prime wrote:I didn't know a super-sonic jet could park on the grass like that!
Caboose wrote:Time is not made out of lines! Time is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round!
Damolisher wrote:Uh, dude, Big Megs wanted to drain Earth Dry and then kill everyone. He doesn't give a rats nenes about anyone living peacefully. He's a war machine, it's what he does. In the cartoon, and in the comics, (G1) the Decepticons are nothing but evil, evil, evil. You have very few exceptions, and when you do, they often desert the Deceps to join the Autobots. The only time we get Decepticons as anything BUT evil are in the Japanese comics. Hell, look at the toys, it says right on the Packaging "Evil Decepticon".
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Damolisher wrote: he revived a bunch of Zombie Autobots
Duke of Luns wrote:I was looking up Star Saber on the Transformers Wiki today, and learned of some very intersting things in the Victory Manga:
From the Deathsaurus page:
[i]As a parallel to Star Saber's adoption of Jan, Deathsaurus had a "son" of his own, a human boy named Solon.
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