Loki120 wrote:Kronos wrote:Robinson wrote:Kronos wrote:Robinson wrote:Nico wrote:Jazz died because he was black...thats so dumb! Jazz is cool but NO! he has to die because black usually dies in Hollywood production!
Killing Jazz is a dumb move!
Let me ask thsi
ONE more time.
How can a Silver robot be "Black"?It is a robot, I repeat
a robot.
One more time.
A Robot
It's not an issue of actual color, but an issue of stereotype.
He breakdances. He uses colloquialisms equated with "hip hop culture".
So does Jamie Kennedy
Ugh. Jamie Kennedy=PARODY. Don't even think about Eminem. That's the exception. You'd have to be blind not to see the stereotype. Also, if you've seen my other posts on this subject, there's other racial stereotypes in the movie, one that I was surprised no one brought up-Bobby Bolivia calling his mother "Mammy". If you don't understand why, read about Al Jolson.
Okay, so you just said it.
A Transformer cannot be black, simply because...well, he's a friggin' robot...you can't get more basic than that. Just like there cannot be a hispanic robot, or white robot. Skin color is inapplicable.
But using your own references, Jazz is emulating that behavior which he learned from the internet. Just because you're acting "black" doesn't make you black. You just called out Jamie Kennedy for that. So there's your response.
I won't argue with you about black behavior throughout the movie was one big stereotype, but then so is the movie "Friday".
Well met. You're right about that.
@Robinson...
While I rescind what I said about Jazz, your last comment should be addressed.
Have you ever watched Chappelle's Show? While it was a hilarious show, and I loved it immensely, it had strong racial overtones. Now, that being said, it does not mean that I already assumed racial intent when I saw it.
There was a skit that was on that show where Dave made fun of the WB network. He had the frog singing "Mammy". He then went on to talk about how that frog was a racist representation, since it sang in an Al Jolson-esque voice, and the WB at the time's demographic was young blacks.
To ignore some of the stereotypes in this movie is something I chose not to do. It's blatant. Maybe you just missed it, but there's a lot of stereotypes in the movie.
Here's a comparison for you to think about:
Morpheus in the Matrix was a great leader. He had an important role in the movies. Not once did you see him make any "step and fetch" type statements, and didn't fit into any racial stereotypes.
Jules in Pulp Fiction was a criminal in the movie. He cursed a lot. But, meanwhile, he still was a well thought out, and believable character. No stereotyping in his character at all.
Now compare them to almost all of the black characters in the Transformers movie, and tell me that there's no stereotype?
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