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Anyone got Tim Burtons number?? i appear to have misplaced it

Gigazarak:

Ah, you were the one. I kind of just clance through the general info, and again I think I was in AZ exavating lost inidan burial sites and whatnot....but, okay so yeah the original subject matter of my previous statemnt was correct then....

All 3-D films are released with a non 3-D option.

I could have sworn I read differently though, sorry for the misquote.

Even so, the 3-D and 2-D schedules really are about the same here in the states. In fact I'd say there are times where there are fewer 3-d timeslots then 2-D, I recently tried to find a time slot for 3-D Clash (Original was better) and found waaayyyyy more 2-D slots. Then again, each Cinema manages these things differently too. So it could have been just that particular show you went two favored the 3-d slots per request of the manager.

Even so...I kind of find all this sort of moot. I mean, now that it's been established all newer 3-D films are released with 2-D options, I'd say both sides would win. I don't see how this film not being released in 3-d will better it, and will argue releasing it in 3-d will better it being this franchise has turned into a marketing cash cow. Hence, one more gimmick, if not a key gimmick thats further being established by this years films such as Titans, Alice, and Tron will help T3 ride the popularity wave of next gen entertainment. As for the gimick running it's course, I don't think thats the case at all. In fact I'd say it's stronger now then ever. And if the marketing team and Production house were to make one good choice regarding T3, it would be to green light 3-D. For me, a jadded fan of this franchise, it would help quirk my interest. At the least I would know what I'm getting into per my ticket purchase, a mindless FX spectacle thrill ride. Instead of just the mindless ROTF rollercoaster however, this one would have a few flips and dipps via the 3-D gimmick.

Spiderman 3! Forgot about that one, also forgot about X-Men 3....wow
Laters,
Josh

Joshua Vallse wrote:Gigazarak:

Ah, you were the one. I kind of just clance through the general info, and again I think I was in AZ exavating lost inidan burial sites and whatnot....but, okay so yeah the original subject matter of my previous statemnt was correct then....

All 3-D films are released with a non 3-D option.

I could have sworn I read differently though, sorry for the misquote.

Even so, the 3-D and 2-D schedules really are about the same here in the states. In fact I'd say there are times where there are fewer 3-d timeslots then 2-D, I recently tried to find a time slot for 3-D Clash (Original was better) and found waaayyyyy more 2-D slots. Then again, each Cinema manages these things differently too. So it could have been just that particular show you went two favored the 3-d slots per request of the manager.

Even so...I kind of find all this sort of moot. I mean, now that it's been established all newer 3-D films are released with 2-D options, I'd say both sides would win. I don't see how this film not being released in 3-d will better it, and will argue releasing it in 3-d will better it being this franchise has turned into a marketing cash cow. Hence, one more gimmick, if not a key gimmick thats further being established by this years films such as Titans, Alice, and Tron will help T3 ride the popularity wave of next gen entertainment. As for the gimick running it's course, I don't think thats the case at all. In fact I'd say it's stronger now then ever. And if the marketing team and Production house were to make one good choice regarding T3, it would be to green light 3-D. For me, a jadded fan of this franchise, it would help quirk my interest. At the least I would know what I'm getting into per my ticket purchase, a mindless FX spectacle thrill ride. Instead of just the mindless ROTF rollercoaster however, this one would have a few flips and dipps via the 3-D gimmick.

Spiderman 3! Forgot about that one, also forgot about X-Men 3....wow
Laters,
Josh

I wonder if Clash of the Titans was made 3D in post-production? That might mean why it's got higher to almost equal amounts of 2D and 3D session times, because it wasn't shot in 3D like Avatar was. Thats kind of Bays point, he hasn't shot it in 3D, so he doesn't want to leave it up to some other production house to mess with HIS FILM, so that it IS 3D, if 3D doesn't go away, then Bay wold probably invest money and effort in shooting a new film in 3D from the get-go, this is all conjecture of course! And probably up to cinema, studio whimsy, as you mention...

On a kind of related note, have you heard that Resident Evil 4 is being shot in 3D as well? Apparently with the same 3D fusion cameras as Avatar. I'm kind of interested to see that movie, not that I hold high hopes for a deep, meaningful and thought-provoking film experience, just because THATS a thrill-ride piece of fluff! 3D would only make it more OTT!

Joshua Vallse wrote:Gigazarak:

Ah, you were the one. I kind of just clance through the general info, and again I think I was in AZ exavating lost inidan burial sites and whatnot....but, okay so yeah the original subject matter of my previous statemnt was correct then....

All 3-D films are released with a non 3-D option.

I could have sworn I read differently though, sorry for the misquote.

No problem...

Joshua Vallse wrote:Even so, the 3-D and 2-D schedules really are about the same here in the states. In fact I'd say there are times where there are fewer 3-d timeslots then 2-D, I recently tried to find a time slot for 3-D Clash (Original was better) and found waaayyyyy more 2-D slots. Then again, each Cinema manages these things differently too. So it could have been just that particular show you went two favored the 3-d slots per request of the manager.

Agreed, it's probably up to cinema whimsy...

Joshua Vallse wrote:Even so...I kind of find all this sort of moot. I mean, now that it's been established all newer 3-D films are released with 2-D options, I'd say both sides would win. I don't see how this film not being released in 3-d will better it, and will argue releasing it in 3-d will better it being this franchise has turned into a marketing cash cow. Hence, one more gimmick, if not a key gimmick thats further being established by this years films such as Titans, Alice, and Tron will help T3 ride the popularity wave of next gen entertainment. As for the gimick running it's course, I don't think thats the case at all. In fact I'd say it's stronger now then ever. And if the marketing team and Production house were to make one good choice regarding T3, it would be to green light 3-D. For me, a jadded fan of this franchise, it would help quirk my interest. At the least I would know what I'm getting into per my ticket purchase, a mindless FX spectacle thrill ride. Instead of just the mindless ROTF rollercoaster however, this one would have a few flips and dipps via the 3-D gimmick.

Spiderman 3! Forgot about that one, also forgot about X-Men 3....wow
Laters,
Josh

I wonder if Clash of the Titans was made 3D in post-production? That might mean why it's got higher to almost equal amounts of 2D and 3D session times, because it wasn't shot in 3D like Avatar was. Thats kind of Bays point, he hasn't shot it in 3D (or even begun to), so he doesn't want to leave it up to some other production house to mess with HIS FILM in post, so that it IS 3D.

If 3D doesn't go away, then Bay would probably invest money and effort in shooting a new (not necessarily TF) film in 3D from the get-go, this is all conjecture of course!

On a kind of related note, have you heard that Resident Evil 4 is being shot in 3D as well? Apparently with the same 3D fusion cameras as Avatar. I'm kind of interested to see that movie, not that I hold high hopes for a deep, meaningful and thought-provoking film experience, just because THATS a thrill-ride piece of fluff! 3D would only make it more OTT!

Clash of the Titans was given the 3D treatment in POST-production, purely to jump on Avatars bandwagon.I've heard it looks a bit messy.

gigazarak wrote:

vectorA3 wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:

SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im not a big lover of Bay, but im surprised hes not keen on 3D and i applaud him for not being pressured into doing it that way, purely for gimmicks. Lets get a solid story, THAT is what will define the 3rd film either way. I came on these boards ranting and raving about ROTF, but lets just cut the guy (Bay) some slack now. After a few comments that have been made in regard to 3 im feeling positive..maybe 3 will unite all factions on these boards. I hope so.

I completely agree that 3 needs a great story. I am also impressed that Bay that Bay is so far refusing 3D-that is a very good thing. We don't need gimmicks at this point. We need a great movie with a great script.

I really just hope that TF 3 turns out great in every possible way. Unlike some other franchises, this will almost definitely be the last movie in the series......and it is doubtful the TF franchise will get any further contributions (with different directors, producers, new/better actors, new designs...etc.)in the future. We can always count on some kind of Batman movie or Superman Movie every few years, but that isn't likely with the Transformers franchise.

why would you doubt this? ROTF made over $800 mill. I think they'll reboot at some point, there's just too much $ to made. Hasbro wants to make more $ off of toys & film too. For our sake though, I hope they reboot completely and not make TF4. The studio will probably want a reboot anyway, so they don't have to pay massive sums to the actors and directors. Thus was the case with Spiderman 4, which was scrapped in favor of a reboot.

Agreed.

TF is a monster franchise, love them or hate them, the last two movies made heaps of cash. Hasbro realised that TF was popular, so started putting out marvel character tfs, starwars tfs, different toylines for different age ranges at the same time (bumper battlers, etc), same characters in different classes etc. A lot of cash has been invested in TF, because, undoubtedly, A LOT more has come back to them, I doubt TF3 will be the last Hollywood does with the idea of Transforming robots, but I'm with you vectorA3, please god not a TF4, the idea will be well and truly stale by then, bring on the inevitable reboot!

I just have a feeling. That is why I doubt. I agree that there is a ton more money left to be made, so Hollywood is going to stay involved. I just really think 3 is going to be it for a long while. I think that TF 3 will be what ultimately burns out the general public (not die-hard TF fans). It is just a feeling. Nothing less, nothing more.

3D -smee Dee.

You know what would be cool? A PG-13 animated TF film -- like GI Joe's 'Resolute'. This could be done sometime after TF3. I want it to be hardcore - Resolute had all sorts of violence and blood. A major city in the world gets wasted. I wanna see some &*^$.

gigazarak wrote:
I wonder if Clash of the Titans was made 3D in post-production? That might mean why it's got higher to almost equal amounts of 2D and 3D session times, because it wasn't shot in 3D like Avatar was. Thats kind of Bays point, he hasn't shot it in 3D, so he doesn't want to leave it up to some other production house to mess with HIS FILM, so that it IS 3D, if 3D doesn't go away, then Bay wold probably invest money and effort in shooting a new film in 3D from the get-go, this is all conjecture of course! And probably up to cinema, studio whimsy, as you mention...

On a kind of related note, have you heard that Resident Evil 4 is being shot in 3D as well? Apparently with the same 3D fusion cameras as Avatar. I'm kind of interested to see that movie, not that I hold high hopes for a deep, meaningful and thought-provoking film experience, just because THATS a thrill-ride piece of fluff! 3D would only make it more OTT!

Clash I think was, and truth be told if it wasn't I wouldn't have enjoyed it that much. It was an FX trainwreck, but it was a 3-D FX trainwreck...so it softened the blow. As for Bay and his concerns about mucking up his films...I think he doing a fine job all his own. Some outside influence might be for the better, nay, is for the better. Especially with what is most likely Bays last TF film, might as well pull out all the stops and milk it, I wont even mind any further continuation discrepencies or the more then steller script. If it's another FX 3D trainwreck, I'm all for it. Better then another regular FX Trainwreck.

RE4 is in 3-D, the trailer was released here in the states wth the screening of Clash. I enjoyed the last film, Extinction, only because I think by that time I just metally gave up on the franchise. And was happly surprised from my lowered expectations. Plus it had what the RE films should have had from the begining: Wesker, a Reidfeild, and a Tyrant. This new trailer is...eh. Being it is 3D, I figure a RE 3D thrill ride might be fun, plus it seems they gave Wesker more screentime. If only they included Veronica. Thing that strikes me, they found cures in the last two films, you think all this would be over by now. Jeepers.
Josh

Since RE4 is using Cameron's system, the 3D should be awesome. As far as the script/story - dunno. Paul W.S. Anderson has been disappointing overall in his last few films. If only Capcom was making these RE films & not Hollywood..............
A good Capcom 2D RE film would blow the doors off of a mediocre 3D Hollywood made film. The CG in Degeneration was stellar. (Lipsync animation w/sound, not so much) That and FF: Advent Children -- probably the 2 best CG movies i've seen.
Anyway, sorry to digress (gotta catch up to Riblet in posts anyway )

vectorA3 wrote:Since RE4 is using Cameron's system, the 3D should be awesome. As far as the script/story - dunno. Paul W.S. Anderson has been disappointing overall in his last few films. If only Capcom was making these RE films & not Hollywood..............
A good Capcom 2D RE film would blow the doors off of a mediocre 3D Hollywood made film. The CG in Degeneration was stellar. (Lipsync animation w/sound, not so much) That and FF: Advent Children -- probably the 2 best CG movies i've seen.
Anyway, sorry to digress (gotta catch up to Riblet in posts anyway )

Ugh, don't get me started on Paul Anderson. I think the only reason this fanchise went on as long as it did is because of Milla, if she didn't continue to sign on this whole franchise would have been dead (Pun totally intended) years ago. Damn you Milla, damn you.

I haven't seen Degenration, was it any good? Did see and own Advent Children, that was spectacular. What the first film should have been.

There was also a RE ride that was in Japan years ago, back in 2001 when the franchise was at it's hight in popularity. That might have been a good film adaptation. This newer 3-D film though looks to be adapting RE5, the one were Chris is in Africa which I heard didn't do so well. Film features the Executioner (Guy with the hammer and potatoe sack head) and the worm mouth zombies which were also in RE4. Which is sad being there's tons of other creatures I would have loved to see, the Hunters. Yawn. 2.0 Tyrrant. The Giant Croc. The only thing I'm looking forward to is Wesker, and I'm sure they found a way to screw that up as well. Buggars.

yeah, Degeneration was decent. It basically gives more backstory about the transition of Umbrella to TriCell. I still don't fully understand it. The CG is top notch as always. Even rivaling Square and ILM. There's a really hot new chick in it as well and Claire & Leon.

ya i saw the re4 & 5 character things in the movie. If the wesker they use is anything like the RE5 game wesker --there'll be some ish to look forward to definitely