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Transformers 3 How will is all end???

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Postby autobot commander » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:20 pm

i want hotrod to be in a seqeul, just not to replace prime
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Re: Transformers 3 How will is all end???

Postby Thanatos Prime » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:44 pm

Coolyfett wrote:
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Coolyfett wrote:Ok It has been a month now since TF1 has been out. Here is my question to all TF fans. How do you think it will all end? Will the Autobots be victorious or will the Decepticons win?? How would you like it end? Would you like the story to end on Earth or Cybertron? Whats in your imagination for TF3??

I would like to see the Decepticons win. I think it would be a real tear jerker if Bumblebee died. I liked his character in TF1 but if he dies in TF3 I would remember it. I would also like to see Megatron kill Starscream viciously. NO UNICRON at all!!! I would like to see a new Decepticon leader from the ranks that already exist. Meaning at the end TF3 the Decepticon leader is someone from TF1 or TF2. I predict TF2 will be located on earth most of the time, so Earth will be in total chaos by TF3. I hope to see many casualties on both sides. Make it a real war effort. Started with 11 Transformers in TF1 ended with 6 remaining.(I think) How would YOU like the TF Trilogy to end??


is that you Brett Ratner?

U'd be happy to see the series end after only three films?!?

I say keep it going untill they run out of stories (which is damn near impossible)

hasnt anyone learnt anything from X men 3?


What were we to learn from X3? When should the Transformer series end at 6?


You are still confused young padiwan. 6 is still a multiple of 3. I want 4 or 5 no more, no less.

3 isn't enough for something as big as Transformers (nor Spiderman or X-Men). If the writing stayed good, I guess I could take 7 but geez, we're not talking about James Bond here....
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Postby softimus_prime » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:55 pm

well hotrod atleast not rodimus prime...
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Postby Mega Zarak » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:09 pm

Wheelie Prime.

Final nail in the coffin...

Thats how it will all end.
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Postby autobot commander » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:13 pm

LOL wheelie prime is a must
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Postby Mega Zarak » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:16 pm

autobot comander wrote:LOL wheelie prime is a must


OR Scooter (From the Gobots) Shall inherit the Matrix.

Either one is good.
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Postby Thanatos Prime » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:16 pm

Mega Zarak wrote:Wheelie Prime.

Final nail in the coffin...

Thats how it will all end.


:shock: "Wheelie not deserve Matrix today, but Wheelie be Prime anyway!!" :BANG_HEAD:
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Postby Mega Zarak » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:17 pm

Thanatos Prime wrote:
Mega Zarak wrote:Wheelie Prime.

Final nail in the coffin...

Thats how it will all end.


:shock: "Wheelie not deserve Matrix today, but Wheelie be Prime anyway!!" :BANG_HEAD:


:APPLAUSE:

Very Very Nice.
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Postby NealeDeadlyAlien » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:31 pm

I still would like to see Jetfire in the next sequel 8-|
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Postby Bumbled » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:47 am

Late post but anyway...

It would be really cool if Transformers was a Live Action TV Series! I mean like Heroes, and My Name Is Earl... but this would be like watching the Transformers Movie in a shorter version and watching many Series of it! It would take a lot of money and it's just an idea I had but let me tell you something... damn the world will be Transformed.
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Postby Tybre » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:32 am

I strongly doubt TF3 will end it unless the network wants to drop the series (it is, after all, a film series). However, when it gets to the film that ends it, I would like to see large numbers of Autobots and Decepticons (like a good 20-30 or so per side):

Both will have finally found a source of energy even more powerful than the Allspark. A small team of Autobots that will include Bumblebee & Sam will get to the source first, but shortly thereafter a team of Decepticons would arrive. After some fighting, both sides are forced to pull back. Now it's race to see who can recover the energy first. Both sides would take their full forces to the energy source and it would result in the biggest battle yet. On the highest point near the source, Optimus and Galvatron (by now i want Galvatron introduced) will do battle with their blades once more. This time, the battle will end with Galvatron stabbing Prime and Prime stabbing Galvatron, thereby killing off both of them - a stalemate. The battle would stop for a moment as both sides watch their leaders fall, but only a moment. Starscream would declare himself leader of Decepticons and go after someone like Ironhide or Ratchet who were very close to Optimus...and that Autobot will either blow him up or rip him to pieces. The battle would continue much in the manner it was going on before, occasionally a member of one side having to chase a member of the other away from the energy. After an arduous battle, when both sides are heavily injured and have several casualties, Ironhide and a Decepticon will make a mad dash for the energy. The Decepticon will blow up Ironhide's legs and another Autobot will go running after the Decepticon. Another Decepticon will tackle that Autobot to the ground and pin them down. *start slo-mo* With the Decepticons very close to the energy, Bumblebee goes running after the Decepticon. *end slo-mo* He tackles them to the ground and the two wrestle around for a minute, ending in Bumblebee ripping off its head. Bumblebee gets to his feet only to be tackled by a stronger Decepticon, one he cannot move to get up. One of the most severely wounded Autobots staggers across the battlefield and knocks the Decepticon off of Bumblebee, only to have that Decepticon kill him. Bumblebee leaps to his feet and goes running towards the energy. All of the remaining Decepticons go rushing after him. All of the Autobots capable of moving go rushing into the Decepticon midst, resulting in melee mayhem. As the battle rages once more, Shockwave will take the energy source. As Shockwave holds it in his hand, Ironhide, as his final act, fires at the energy source, causing the energy to flood into the point of impact and then explode outward in explosion like no one has ever seen, completely demolishing the area and killing almost every single transformer. *cue slo-mo* When it's over, only a few Autobots (like 2 or 3) and a few Decepticons (same numbers) will remain, both too badly damaged to keep fighting, and yet they continue trying to fight. Put in a few of the soundless, slo-mo, sad scenes where you see the image but you only hear the music (if you don't know what I mean, watch Peter Jackson's version of LOTR). *end slo-mo* The Decepticons have trouble transforming, but leave. As at least one or two of them will be Seekers, they kind of waver as they fly. Only one Autobot is well enough to move, and so he walks over to look down at Optimus' body. Slowly fade into next scene. The remaining Autobots are repaired and standing somewhere very picturesque. The one who looked at Prime, who will be a character like Ultra Magnus (Bumblebee and all of those guys will be dead), is standing at the head of the group, with much cooler looking armor than before. In their chest, we can see a faint glimmer of what lies within - the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. Like at the end of the first film, there will be a voice over by this new leader, but it will not be a subspace message. Rather, they will merely be explaining what they are doing now in such few numbers and explaining that the Decepticons have disappeared, leaving them in a temporary time of peace. Cut to space. The Seeker(s) is/are flying through deep space, still injured. Slowly rotate camera to reveal Cybertron. The jet(s) come back into view and descend towards the planet, ready to reinforce their armies on the homeworld. Return to Earth. The new leader makes on final, heroic voice over.

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Yes, I have planned this out. Yes, I have thought of subplots, but if I put in the subplots too, this post would be far too large. Suffice it to say, w/o the subplots, if no scene was edited down by more than a clip of dialogue or two, the film would be little over two hours. With half of the subplots I came up with, it is almost three. With all of them, if nothing at all was edited, the final result would be 3h:32m:29s. It ends in a way that could wrap up the series forever, but it still leaves it open for another film should the studio decide to do so.
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Postby FuriousRodimus » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:17 am

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Postby autobot commander » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:19 am

its to big of a post for me too read in one sitting lol
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Postby Nico » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:10 pm

Everybody blow eachother up. The camera is so bad we don't see anything.
The Movie end...
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Postby Zeds » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:55 pm

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Postby Thanatos Prime » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:05 pm

Tybre wrote:I strongly doubt TF3 will end it unless the network wants to drop the series (it is, after all, a film series). However, when it gets to the film that ends it, I would like to see large numbers of Autobots and Decepticons (like a good 20-30 or so per side):

Both will have finally found a source of energy even more powerful than the Allspark. A small team of Autobots that will include Bumblebee & Sam will get to the source first, but shortly thereafter a team of Decepticons would arrive. After some fighting, both sides are forced to pull back. Now it's race to see who can recover the energy first. Both sides would take their full forces to the energy source and it would result in the biggest battle yet. On the highest point near the source, Optimus and Galvatron (by now i want Galvatron introduced) will do battle with their blades once more. This time, the battle will end with Galvatron stabbing Prime and Prime stabbing Galvatron, thereby killing off both of them - a stalemate. The battle would stop for a moment as both sides watch their leaders fall, but only a moment. Starscream would declare himself leader of Decepticons and go after someone like Ironhide or Ratchet who were very close to Optimus...and that Autobot will either blow him up or rip him to pieces. The battle would continue much in the manner it was going on before, occasionally a member of one side having to chase a member of the other away from the energy. After an arduous battle, when both sides are heavily injured and have several casualties, Ironhide and a Decepticon will make a mad dash for the energy. The Decepticon will blow up Ironhide's legs and another Autobot will go running after the Decepticon. Another Decepticon will tackle that Autobot to the ground and pin them down. *start slo-mo* With the Decepticons very close to the energy, Bumblebee goes running after the Decepticon. *end slo-mo* He tackles them to the ground and the two wrestle around for a minute, ending in Bumblebee ripping off its head. Bumblebee gets to his feet only to be tackled by a stronger Decepticon, one he cannot move to get up. One of the most severely wounded Autobots staggers across the battlefield and knocks the Decepticon off of Bumblebee, only to have that Decepticon kill him. Bumblebee leaps to his feet and goes running towards the energy. All of the remaining Decepticons go rushing after him. All of the Autobots capable of moving go rushing into the Decepticon midst, resulting in melee mayhem. As the battle rages once more, Shockwave will take the energy source. As Shockwave holds it in his hand, Ironhide, as his final act, fires at the energy source, causing the energy to flood into the point of impact and then explode outward in explosion like no one has ever seen, completely demolishing the area and killing almost every single transformer. *cue slo-mo* When it's over, only a few Autobots (like 2 or 3) and a few Decepticons (same numbers) will remain, both too badly damaged to keep fighting, and yet they continue trying to fight. Put in a few of the soundless, slo-mo, sad scenes where you see the image but you only hear the music (if you don't know what I mean, watch Peter Jackson's version of LOTR). *end slo-mo* The Decepticons have trouble transforming, but leave. As at least one or two of them will be Seekers, they kind of waver as they fly. Only one Autobot is well enough to move, and so he walks over to look down at Optimus' body. Slowly fade into next scene. The remaining Autobots are repaired and standing somewhere very picturesque. The one who looked at Prime, who will be a character like Ultra Magnus (Bumblebee and all of those guys will be dead), is standing at the head of the group, with much cooler looking armor than before. In their chest, we can see a faint glimmer of what lies within - the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. Like at the end of the first film, there will be a voice over by this new leader, but it will not be a subspace message. Rather, they will merely be explaining what they are doing now in such few numbers and explaining that the Decepticons have disappeared, leaving them in a temporary time of peace. Cut to space. The Seeker(s) is/are flying through deep space, still injured. Slowly rotate camera to reveal Cybertron. The jet(s) come back into view and descend towards the planet, ready to reinforce their armies on the homeworld. Return to Earth. The new leader makes on final, heroic voice over.

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I love it, every last bit of it. It's amazing. Exactly how I want it to end...

:APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:
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Postby Tybre » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:00 am

g1transformers wrote:I would like to see Unicron, Primus and the Quints worked in there somehow.


They are saying Unicron will probably be in TF3 or TF4. James Earl Jones has admitted to being cast as the voice of Unicron, but he has said that he will not be involved with the next film. This means he will appear in TF3 at earliest, and I see that as the most likely choice.

Thanatos Prime wrote:
Tybre wrote:I strongly doubt TF3 will end it unless the network wants to drop the series (it is, after all, a film series). However, when it gets to the film that ends it, I would like to see large numbers of Autobots and Decepticons (like a good 20-30 or so per side):

Both will have finally found a source of energy even more powerful than the Allspark. A small team of Autobots that will include Bumblebee & Sam will get to the source first, but shortly thereafter a team of Decepticons would arrive. After some fighting, both sides are forced to pull back. Now it's race to see who can recover the energy first. Both sides would take their full forces to the energy source and it would result in the biggest battle yet. On the highest point near the source, Optimus and Galvatron (by now i want Galvatron introduced) will do battle with their blades once more. This time, the battle will end with Galvatron stabbing Prime and Prime stabbing Galvatron, thereby killing off both of them - a stalemate. The battle would stop for a moment as both sides watch their leaders fall, but only a moment. Starscream would declare himself leader of Decepticons and go after someone like Ironhide or Ratchet who were very close to Optimus...and that Autobot will either blow him up or rip him to pieces. The battle would continue much in the manner it was going on before, occasionally a member of one side having to chase a member of the other away from the energy. After an arduous battle, when both sides are heavily injured and have several casualties, Ironhide and a Decepticon will make a mad dash for the energy. The Decepticon will blow up Ironhide's legs and another Autobot will go running after the Decepticon. Another Decepticon will tackle that Autobot to the ground and pin them down. *start slo-mo* With the Decepticons very close to the energy, Bumblebee goes running after the Decepticon. *end slo-mo* He tackles them to the ground and the two wrestle around for a minute, ending in Bumblebee ripping off its head. Bumblebee gets to his feet only to be tackled by a stronger Decepticon, one he cannot move to get up. One of the most severely wounded Autobots staggers across the battlefield and knocks the Decepticon off of Bumblebee, only to have that Decepticon kill him. Bumblebee leaps to his feet and goes running towards the energy. All of the remaining Decepticons go rushing after him. All of the Autobots capable of moving go rushing into the Decepticon midst, resulting in melee mayhem. As the battle rages once more, Shockwave will take the energy source. As Shockwave holds it in his hand, Ironhide, as his final act, fires at the energy source, causing the energy to flood into the point of impact and then explode outward in explosion like no one has ever seen, completely demolishing the area and killing almost every single transformer. *cue slo-mo* When it's over, only a few Autobots (like 2 or 3) and a few Decepticons (same numbers) will remain, both too badly damaged to keep fighting, and yet they continue trying to fight. Put in a few of the soundless, slo-mo, sad scenes where you see the image but you only hear the music (if you don't know what I mean, watch Peter Jackson's version of LOTR). *end slo-mo* The Decepticons have trouble transforming, but leave. As at least one or two of them will be Seekers, they kind of waver as they fly. Only one Autobot is well enough to move, and so he walks over to look down at Optimus' body. Slowly fade into next scene. The remaining Autobots are repaired and standing somewhere very picturesque. The one who looked at Prime, who will be a character like Ultra Magnus (Bumblebee and all of those guys will be dead), is standing at the head of the group, with much cooler looking armor than before. In their chest, we can see a faint glimmer of what lies within - the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. Like at the end of the first film, there will be a voice over by this new leader, but it will not be a subspace message. Rather, they will merely be explaining what they are doing now in such few numbers and explaining that the Decepticons have disappeared, leaving them in a temporary time of peace. Cut to space. The Seeker(s) is/are flying through deep space, still injured. Slowly rotate camera to reveal Cybertron. The jet(s) come back into view and descend towards the planet, ready to reinforce their armies on the homeworld. Return to Earth. The new leader makes on final, heroic voice over.

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I love it, every last bit of it. It's amazing. Exactly how I want it to end...

:APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:


Meh. It's what I do all day for my jobs, so stuff like that comes naturally to me.
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Postby PRiMESDESTiNY » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:38 am

Tybre wrote:
g1transformers wrote:I would like to see Unicron, Primus and the Quints worked in there somehow.


They are saying Unicron will probably be in TF3 or TF4. James Earl Jones has admitted to being cast as the voice of Unicron, but he has said that he will not be involved with the next film. This means he will appear in TF3 at earliest, and I see that as the most likely choice.




hmmm...i dont know about all that....do you have a link to an article or where ever this was stated?? not to discredit that what ur saying is not the truth, i just find it very odd for them to already be talking and possibly throwing out casting for TF3 or TF4 when they haven't even begun to start on TF2 in regards to the plot etc...only thing that has happened is they have been given the green light to start up on it and of course resigning all the main stars from TF1. it just doesn't make any sense to be jumping THAT FAR forward....
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Postby Tybre » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:47 am

First, I read it on IMDB under the TF trivia. I don't know if it's still there there: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/trivia I thought it was weird to introduce Unicron so early, but who am I to question? So I e-mailed JEJ's rep, who forwarded it to the agent, who eventually forwarded it to him. (It took like 3 months) and he said he had been cast as the voice of Unicron, but not for the second film.
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Postby CJH » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:18 pm

How can they have Unicron.. again. Seems a bit unimaginative. Anyone seen Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer? Practically was Unicron except it was a dust cloud.
And 1986 film was all about Unicron, surely there is a more dramatic, character driven storyline they could have.
As for 3+ films, I wouldn't agree with that.. most films that try to go over 3 seem to suffer. I'd be MORE than happy with just a trilogy.
As for killing Optimus and replacing him.. again it seems a little unimaginative. Besides, the first time they did that was really to get more toys on the market. If they really wanted to kill him, have that be the end of the trilogy; he sacrifices himself to end the Decepticons. Even then, that is a little predictable.
As for Quintessons.. I REALLY don't want that storyline touched. I much prefered the idea that the Transformers simply came from Cybertron, their planet, and they were mechnical living organisms. Not all this.. they were originally made by floating heads with tentacles.. nonsense. Almost as bad as the little alien guy who made Unicron... what a way to ruin a truly menacing character.
Reminds me of George Lucas going.. "Hey, people thought Boba Fett was cool, let's see him as an 8-year old kid!" ¬¬

I think they could get Galvatron into the mix somehow though.. seemed a little too easy to get rid of Megatron the way they did.
First film: original menace, Megatron.
Second film: Secondary menace, seemingly unconnected.
Third film: Original menace returns and is even worse, due to events in the second film.
That's the generic hollywood idea for blockbusters, in my opinion they will probably do something like that.
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Postby Tybre » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:38 pm

Yeah. Well let's think. TF = Marvel Comic originally (eventually expanded). FF = Marvel comic. Of course both are planet-eaters. It's Marvel. That's what Marvel does.
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Postby PRiMESDESTiNY » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:08 pm

CJH wrote:How can they have Unicron.. again. Seems a bit unimaginative. Anyone seen Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer? Practically was Unicron except it was a dust cloud.
And 1986 film was all about Unicron, surely there is a more dramatic, character driven storyline they could have.
As for 3+ films, I wouldn't agree with that.. most films that try to go over 3 seem to suffer. I'd be MORE than happy with just a trilogy.
As for killing Optimus and replacing him.. again it seems a little unimaginative. Besides, the first time they did that was really to get more toys on the market. If they really wanted to kill him, have that be the end of the trilogy; he sacrifices himself to end the Decepticons. Even then, that is a little predictable.
As for Quintessons.. I REALLY don't want that storyline touched. I much prefered the idea that the Transformers simply came from Cybertron, their planet, and they were mechnical living organisms. Not all this.. they were originally made by floating heads with tentacles.. nonsense. Almost as bad as the little alien guy who made Unicron... what a way to ruin a truly menacing character.
Reminds me of George Lucas going.. "Hey, people thought Boba Fett was cool, let's see him as an 8-year old kid!" ¬¬

I think they could get Galvatron into the mix somehow though.. seemed a little too easy to get rid of Megatron the way they did.
First film: original menace, Megatron.
Second film: Secondary menace, seemingly unconnected.
Third film: Original menace returns and is even worse, due to events in the second film.
That's the generic hollywood idea for blockbusters, in my opinion they will probably do something like that.




ITA. All those storylines involving unicron or prime dying has been played out to the 10th degree. it's time for a new story line.
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Postby Duskish » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:10 pm

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Ashes wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Galvatron somewhere down the road, but without Hotrod/Rodimus.


ugh, I know, right?

Hotrod needs to go die and leave us and our summer blockbusters alone

It IS a shame that Michael Bay doesn't like the Dinobots though
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Postby Duskish » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:16 pm

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PRiMESDESTiNY wrote:
CJH wrote:How can they have Unicron.. again. Seems a bit unimaginative. Anyone seen Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer? Practically was Unicron except it was a dust cloud.
And 1986 film was all about Unicron, surely there is a more dramatic, character driven storyline they could have.
As for 3+ films, I wouldn't agree with that.. most films that try to go over 3 seem to suffer. I'd be MORE than happy with just a trilogy.
As for killing Optimus and replacing him.. again it seems a little unimaginative. Besides, the first time they did that was really to get more toys on the market. If they really wanted to kill him, have that be the end of the trilogy; he sacrifices himself to end the Decepticons. Even then, that is a little predictable.
As for Quintessons.. I REALLY don't want that storyline touched. I much prefered the idea that the Transformers simply came from Cybertron, their planet, and they were mechnical living organisms. Not all this.. they were originally made by floating heads with tentacles.. nonsense. Almost as bad as the little alien guy who made Unicron... what a way to ruin a truly menacing character.
Reminds me of George Lucas going.. "Hey, people thought Boba Fett was cool, let's see him as an 8-year old kid!" ¬¬

I think they could get Galvatron into the mix somehow though.. seemed a little too easy to get rid of Megatron the way they did.
First film: original menace, Megatron.
Second film: Secondary menace, seemingly unconnected.
Third film: Original menace returns and is even worse, due to events in the second film.
That's the generic hollywood idea for blockbusters, in my opinion they will probably do something like that.


Well, even though I was slightly underwhelmed by the "fallen" concept, Since they put him as the main badguy in the second one, it only makes sense that they are going to embellish upon that in the third.

But yeah, it'll probly turn out to be the generic:
movie1: first villain
movie2:first villain's boss
movie3:second villain' boss


ITA. All those storylines involving unicron or prime dying has been played out to the 10th degree. it's time for a new story line.
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Re: Transformers 3 How will is all end???

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:07 am

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What I think is that it will end as a hollow victory for each primary faction (autobot, Decepticon, Human) but only depending from each factions' point of view (i.e: it's a loss from the enemy point of view).

Any officially rebootable characters, which is virtually all of them, are killable (Bumblebee-Goldbug, Megs-Galvatron, Ironhide-Rhinox, Silverbolt-Wolfgang Amadeus Silverbolt etc.) but remember that Bay and his writers didn't necessarily study g1 for their material (In armada, Sideswipe is virtually a rookie with no Sunstreaker anywhere).So don't worry about trying to protect your characters with mental shields.If anything, resurrectability is a cliche that a good director would not need to piss on peoples' minds with. Any attempt to ressurect Jazz could be a movie in its' own-search for Spock style.I don't believe TFs will truly leave Earth once they arrive.Some, like Jazz and 'Bee and certain Decepticons will always prefer it to Cybertron.

What I WOULD LIKE is confirmation that the other G1 & G2 Autobots are alive and will move to join Prime.I 'd prefer the Autobots to close the film stating they should leave (if necessary) but not that they will leave, as this sabotages the options the next director has to work with.

I don't like the idea that there should be a mad rush to get to Unicrons' arrival, or the Beast Wars setting, or a return to Cybertron. There's enough material to tell an unhurried, but intellectual story with existing material, especially if villains are selected cautiously and potential villains are fleshed out motivewise in the background.
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