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News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Yeah, I've long considered the RotF Leader mold to be more of a Masterpiece than many actual Masterpiece figures so this is gonna have to be something pretty damn special. Love the new MP Bumblebee over the previous Leader molds he got so maybe they can improve on Prime.

by **Sigmus Prime** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:56 pm

I'm totally down for this. While the ROTF mold is great, the mold has really been pushed to its limit by this point. Plus the MP line strives for greater accuracy and functionality, so MPM Prime is almost guaranteed to be better.

As somebody who's never owned any of the Leader Prime molds aside from AD-31 (which I kinda regret selling at this point), I highly anticipate this figure.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:18 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.

The TRU listings had it marked down as an exclusive (which doesnt surprise me, they have the MP exclusives ever since the relaunch of the MP line)

Why am I not surprised? Augh!.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:48 pm

Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:35 pm

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.

It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold

Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:39 pm

I eagerly await pictures.

by **Sigmus Prime** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:45 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:46 pm

Sigmus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?

80

by **Sigmus Prime** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:48 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?

80

Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:52 pm

Sigmus Prime wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?

80

Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!

Its because he doesnt come with a trailer and a ton of accessories, unlike MP 10.

Bumblebee is also bare of accessories. Instead he has built in features (which I am all for).

So 80 and 100 makes sense.

by **Sigmus Prime** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?

80

Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!

Its because he doesnt come with a trailer and a ton of accessories, unlike MP 10.

Bumblebee is also bare of accessories. Instead he has built in features (which I am all for).

So 80 and 100 makes sense.

No, you're right - just didn't occur to me. And yeah, Bee having incorporated gear is perfectly fine with me.

I am hoping Prime comes with all or most of the weapons he used in the first movie, which I don't think was that many to begin with.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:59 pm

Sigmus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?

80

Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!

Its because he doesnt come with a trailer and a ton of accessories, unlike MP 10.

Bumblebee is also bare of accessories. Instead he has built in features (which I am all for).

So 80 and 100 makes sense.

No, you're right - just didn't occur to me. Though I am hoping Prime comes with all or most of the weapons he used in the first movie, which I don't think was that many to begin with.

yeah o think he just had a gun and maybe an axe or sword

by **Jeddostotle7** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:32 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.

It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold

Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

Actually, you're right, at least for movie 1-3 Prime. I was just thinking that, because MP-10 Optimus' height in-scale is 25.7' (up to the ears), that MPM Optimus would be taller, because I was thinking he was 32' tall. However, that is his height in AoE; in Movie 1-DOTM, he's only 28'.

by **Sigmus Prime** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:18 am

Bumblebee21 wrote:
Sigmus Prime wrote:No, you're right - just didn't occur to me. Though I am hoping Prime comes with all or most of the weapons he used in the first movie, which I don't think was that many to begin with.

yeah o think he just had a gun and maybe an axe or sword

Yeah, I believe Prime only had his energon blades and ion cannon in TFTM.

So if the toy has the blades, then, I wonder if it will try to incorporate them into the build or instead have them as separate parts.

News Credits: 14 · by **Actar** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:57 am

william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.

It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold

Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

Are we sure about that? According to this random scale chart I found, Prime should be almost twice as tall as Bee (and taller than MP-10) if they want to keep them in scale. Do we have the numbers for MPM Bee yet?

Black Hat wrote:Holy crap, I never knew Actar posted here! *Cue Wayne's World "We're not worthy!" routine*

Haha, you're too kind. (^.^) But yeah, I've been a long time member and Transformers is my second love after anime.

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:01 am

Actar wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.

It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold

Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.

Are we sure about that? According to this random scale chart I found, Prime should be almost twice as tall as Bee (and taller than MP-10) if they want to keep them in scale. Do we have the numbers for MPM Bee yet?

They dont want to keep them in scale, they just want to replicate the other MP sizes. Thats what they said they were striving for.

And also, might i remind you Optimus is only 20$ more than BB. What can you possibly expect from that?

News Credits: 14 · by **Actar** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:00 am

william-james88 wrote:And also, might i remind you Optimus is only 20$ more than BB. What can you possibly expect from that?

To be fair, I do recall someone saying that they were following the normal MP prices where the prices of carbots get horribly inflated but the bigger releases remain relatively unchanged.

News Credits: 1 · by **Dr Lockdown** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:09 am

Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:27 am

Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party

News Credits: 1 · by **Dr Lockdown** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:11 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party

Just saying another leak happened for what we third was a Leader Optimus, but it turned out to be third party. I remember that leak looked suspiciously like this one. I'm still not convinced.

If it is happening, I'm overjoyed, but if not then I'm not surprised.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:05 am

Dr Lockdown wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party

Just saying another leak happened for what we third was a Leader Optimus, but it turned out to be third party. I remember that leak looked suspiciously like this one. I'm still not convinced.

If it is happening, I'm overjoyed, but if not then I'm not surprised.

It's true, we don't always get sound info - but weibo is way more trustworthy than 4chan for this sort of thing, so we keep an eye on that too.

News Credits: 1 · by **Dr Lockdown** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:25 am

Va'al wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party

Just saying another leak happened for what we third was a Leader Optimus, but it turned out to be third party. I remember that leak looked suspiciously like this one. I'm still not convinced.

If it is happening, I'm overjoyed, but if not then I'm not surprised.

**image snipped**

It's true, we don't always get sound info - but weibo is way more trustworthy than 4chan for this sort of thing, so we keep an eye on that too.

Well if it turns out to be true I'll admit I was wrong and be quite happy honestly.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:50 am

Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.

Emerje

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:07 am

Emerje wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.

Emerje

But isnt this the same guy who put up pics of the Movie Voyager Megatron prototype before it was revealed? Those toys are made in Vietnam too but it was a leak from China.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:41 am

william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.

Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.

Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.

Emerje

But isnt this the same guy who put up pics of the Movie Voyager Megatron prototype before it was revealed? Those toys are made in Vietnam too but it was a leak from China.

No, the guy who first posted the prototypes was "Vector Sigma" on Facebook. The one that posted these CG images is the same person that posted the the ones above for the unofficial AOE/TLK Optimus Prime, Alucard Lee. Even his post for this one is just speculating, not confirming. I just don't find the guy reliable.

Emerje