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Sabrblade wrote:I agree, but, I still think it would make sense for the sword to be proportionally to scale with Prima since all of the Thirteen are supposed to be really big guys. and if the size of Solus Prime's Forge was any indication, the Star Saber should be huge (while this sword here looks more like a regularly sized sword)

For some reason, this reminds me of not only those old (I think it was) 7-11 commercials where they show a big guy with a small cup, saying "This is supposed to be a large?"... But also see you and two other Seibertron.com members standing over this weapon and you saying "Where's the blade?"

But yeah. When it comes to the difference between mythology in any period of time, region of space, etc. and this - I 100% agree with you. Because in many instances, not may would like to find out that the story of Hercules was actually about a 13 year old demigoddess with a Shizuo Heiwajima (DURARARA!!) complex.

However... I am hoping that they make it as great as it is meant to be. And if it turns out to be a mere short sword, I am going to be hoping that it has a "Sword of Omens" (Thundercats) attribute that allows it to grow in size when needed (and not simply grasped, like Inuyasha's blade).

njb902 wrote:it may be capable of "transforming" to accommodate its user.

I really like this explanation! Because it really fits what was said with at least one other item mentioned in the series.

Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

nikkinavarro wrote:Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

Looking at the list of upcoming Arms Microns toys, it looks like it with be Smokescreen. Which could result in Jack saying that it is a loaner because his bike is in the shop.

Also... The Star Saber is a possible item, as it requires a Matrix piece! And who knows? Also, maybe there is more than one Matrix and Megatron obtained it?

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

nikkinavarro wrote:Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

Looking at the list of upcoming Arms Microns toys, it looks like it with be Smokescreen. Which could result in Jack saying that it is a loaner because his bike is in the shop.

Also... The Star Saber is a possible item, as it requires a Matrix piece! And who knows? Also, maybe there is more than one Matrix and Megatron obtained it?

Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

Bubbah wrote:Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

The Heart of Darkness is IDW G1, yes.

But there's been several evil Matrices over the years. Matrix of Evil, Galva-Matrix, Matrix of Conquest/Matrix of Chaos/Anti-Matrix, Dead Matrix, the nonexistent Decepticon Matrix, etc.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bubbah wrote:Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

The Heart of Darkness is IDW G1, yes.

But there's been several evil Matrices over the years. Matrix of Evil, Galva-Matrix, Matrix of Conquest/Matrix of Chaos/Anti-Matrix, Dead Matrix, the nonexistent Decepticon Matrix, etc.

Whew ... I've definitely got some back reading to do! Haha

Bubbah wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

nikkinavarro wrote:Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

Looking at the list of upcoming Arms Microns toys, it looks like it with be Smokescreen. Which could result in Jack saying that it is a loaner because his bike is in the shop.

Also... The Star Saber is a possible item, as it requires a Matrix piece! And who knows? Also, maybe there is more than one Matrix and Megatron obtained it?

Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

From what I have read on TFwiki, it is a IDW-based G1 continuity.

However, there is the Matrix of Conquest. And even though that was a fake in the G1 cartoon continuity, that could be used - Especially if it recreates the Dark Star Saber sequence done in Armada.

It's become par for the course lately, the AT&T U-verse program guide reveals additional details for the upcoming Transformers Prime episode "Legacy". This episode is scheduled to air on September 21st. See the extended synopsis below:

Megatron does his best to distract Optimus from the reality of a weapon of legend belonging to the Primes, which if discovered, could change the entire outcome of the war; Jack and his new Autobot companion set out on a mission.

El Duque wrote:It's become par for the course lately, the AT&T U-verse program guide reveals additional details for the upcoming Transformers Prime episode "Legacy". This episode is scheduled to air on September 21st. See the extended synopsis below:

Megatron does his best to distract Optimus from the reality of a weapon of legend belonging to the Primes, which if discovered, could change the entire outcome of the war; Jack and his new Autobot companion set out on a mission.

Based on that, that may be the origin of the "dark energon"/"energon" sabers we see Megatron and Optimus respectively wield in the promo. Whether or not they're called the "Dark Saber" and/or "Star Saber" in the show (or if the two are one and the same), we'll have to wait for the episode to air.

Sabrblade wrote:I really hope it's not the Star Saber becuase the swords seen the promo look way too small. The Star Saber needs to be as big as (if not bigger than) the Forge of Solus Prime, since the Star Saber is not merely an Iacon Relic but an Artifact of the Primes.

Well, there's no reason the relics of the Primes couldn't reshape themselves to be more "user friendly" for whatever Prime weilds them.

Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

It's probably just to have someone to show Smokescreen the ropes. Arcee could be with Miko this time if Bulkhead's still not 100% well.

Sabrblade wrote:

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

It's probably just to have someone to show Smokescreen the ropes. Arcee could be with Miko this time if Bulkhead's still not 100% well.

Although some would argue that Miko's not old enough to ride a motorcycle. Meanwhile Raf can ride safely inside Bumblebee without a problem (though he's not in the driver's seat).

PrymeStriker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

It's probably just to have someone to show Smokescreen the ropes. Arcee could be with Miko this time if Bulkhead's still not 100% well.

Although some would argue that Miko's not old enough to ride a motorcycle. Meanwhile Raf can ride safely inside Bumblebee without a problem (though he's not in the driver's seat).

While I do agree Miko is too young to be on a motorcycle, I could see them do it temporarily as an "emergency .. Get on, we've gotta go" type situation. The only reason I think that is because they could have Bulkhead see this, while Miko is having a lot of fun riding Arcee, and further his depression and feelings of being replaced.

And I've got to give the writers credit, small things like having Raf & Miko always being shown in the passenger seats (because they're too young to drive) are nice. It's the attention to small details like this that really make me like this show even more.

I wonder if Bulkhead will sorta of leave Team Prime to run with Wheeljack since right now Smokescreen has replaced him.

BeastWarsFTW wrote:I wonder if Bulkhead will sorta of leave Team Prime to run with Wheeljack since right now Smokescreen has replaced him.

I don't think running with Wheeljack is the best idea either. Sure, he could steal the Apex Armor (which I wouldn't recommend), but Wheeljack's pretty banged up too from Hardshell (not to mention Starscream, Makeshift, Dreadwing, and Soundwave. He's gotten beat up in every episode he appeared in). I predict they'd both die easily.

Besides, in the Human Factor, Bulkhead and Smokescreen seem to be taking on Breakdown together. Perhaps this would be a nice time to patch things up.

As long as they don't become partners.

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

They're doing it because he is the only human who is capable of doing it. Miko, despite her enthusiasm and willingness, cannot do it because of Bulkhead - Who is currently feeling the anxiety and fear tied to the overall feeling of being replaced. (We generally call that an OCD moment.) And Raph is pretty much too young, as well as has other responsibilities.

So all Jack will do is say that his "bike" is in the shop and this is a "loaner" to those who ask. Plus, unless things change, Smokey could always end up being paired off with that one girl that Jack likes.