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[Sabrblade]

I'm pretty sure I liked the Combiner Wars series and was thinking of ordering this off Target.com..I mean, who wouldn't want an extra Transformers thing to watch

Just because something is a "Transformers thing" doesn't automatically make it good.

Damn you hate CW that much? How bad could it be? Worse than Japan Headmasters series ? (Im a Rebirth fan)

It is by far one of the single worst pieces of Transformers fiction ever produced.

And that's not just my opinion. The series was universally panned by just about every right-minded individual over in the show's thread.

The only good thing about the series was its depiction of Megatron, who was genuinely delightful, funny, and entertaining to watch that it's astonishing that a show so bad could have such a likable Megatron.

[Stuartmaximus]

The only place in the UK that I can think of that would carry an extra disc(with MAYBE...CW series on it) would be Sainsbury's

[galvatron00]

Damn you hate CW that much? How bad could it be? Worse than Japan Headmasters series ? (Im a Rebirth fan)

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RATED X!!

Seriously though, I'm a big fan of Headmasters..maybe I have poor judgement and you should avoid the CW series.

[galvatron00]

The only good thing about the series was its depiction of Megatron, who was genuinely delightful, funny, and entertaining to watch that it's astonishing that a show so bad could have such a likable Megatron.

Ah, maybe that's what I'm remembering the most. Megatron was the best. I do remember the council people being whiny complainers..

Back on track here, the only other versions of TLK movie are ones with the diecast cars and a steelbook, right?

[dragons]

I have the whole combiner series not worth buying movie if you want series but toysrus version with comic shows why prime went into status mode in space it's ok little book Best Buy steelbook is better

[EunuchRon]

The only good thing about the series was its depiction of Megatron, who was genuinely delightful, funny, and entertaining to watch that it's astonishing that a show so bad could have such a likable Megatron.

Ah, maybe that's what I'm remembering the most. Megatron was the best. I do remember the council people being whiny complainers..

Back on track here, the only other versions of TLK movie are ones with the diecast cars and a steelbook, right?

There's regular DVD plus digital, blu ray and DVD and digital, 4K Ultra and blu ray and dvd and digital, 3D blu ray and blu ray and digital. The Steelbooks I saw were blu ray and DVD and digital, and 4K Ultra and blu ray and dvd and digital, but they were all sold out of the 4K Ultra steel books.

I got the 3D version because I'm one of the few nuts left out there (or is it left nuts out there?) that loves 3D movies. It wasn't easy to get though. So far only Best Buy has it and the one local to me didn't get their shipment, so I had to drive a little ways. Bummer they didn't have a steelbook version with the 3D, but I'm only buying a movie once if I can.

[EunuchRon]

Awesome news. Thanks for pointing this out. I was gonna stop by Walmart, but it looks like Ill hit target instead. Ive never seen CW before so that will be a treat. Also glad its on DVD because blue ray is the biggest rip off. They lighten the colors a bit and charge you double for same thing.

Man I gotta say that ain't true. I got a few movies on DVD that I picked up blu ray copies of later, and they look seriously better in blu ray, even with my bad eyes. Maybe you just got a bad TV?

[noctorro]

Makes sense, pairing the worst Transformers movie with the worst Transformers series.

Combiner Wars is truly terrible, read the comment above for more explaination.

Here's mine in short:
1. Too damn short
2. 1 frame per second (look up fps), watches like sh*t
3. Animation models are very simplistic
3. Combiners don't combine, they're just big robots
4. They die easily by a deluxe
5. Fights are lame (like you would see a 6 year old play)
6. I didn't know what the hell was going on, but I only watched it 1 time with expectations so scrap this one.

Go watch Armada or rewatch Prime.

[galvatron00]

Watched TLK for the first time last night.

I thought it was awesome! Of course there were parts where I rolled my eyes (or said "ugh" aloud), but for the most part (and thank Primus Simmons was back) I thought it was really great. For me, MUCH better than Age of Extinction. Can't believe it was 2.5 hours. It didn't feel like it. AoE was less than that (by just a few minutes) and took me three attempts to finish. That's saying something in my book.

One thing I could've lived without: "I stoppa the time!"

[Stuartmaximus]

Watched TLK for the first time last night.

I thought it was awesome! Of course there were parts where I rolled my eyes (or said "ugh" aloud), but for the most part (and thank Primus Simmons was back) I thought it was really great. For me, MUCH better than Age of Extinction. Can't believe it was 2.5 hours. It didn't feel like it. AoE was less than that (by just a few minutes) and took me three attempts to finish. That's saying something in my book.

One thing I could've lived without: "I stoppa the time!"

congratulations

now I hope that you can contain your excitement for the Bumblebee movie

[TulioDude]

Watched TLK for the first time last night.

I thought it was awesome! Of course there were parts where I rolled my eyes (or said "ugh" aloud), but for the most part (and thank Primus Simmons was back) I thought it was really great. For me, MUCH better than Age of Extinction. Can't believe it was 2.5 hours. It didn't feel like it. AoE was less than that (by just a few minutes) and took me three attempts to finish. That's saying something in my book.

One thing I could've lived without: "I stoppa the time!"

Thanks for the positivity!I thought was fun and had a good time too!

[galvatron00]

Watched TLK for the first time last night.

I thought it was awesome! Of course there were parts where I rolled my eyes (or said "ugh" aloud), but for the most part (and thank Primus Simmons was back) I thought it was really great. For me, MUCH better than Age of Extinction. Can't believe it was 2.5 hours. It didn't feel like it. AoE was less than that (by just a few minutes) and took me three attempts to finish. That's saying something in my book.

One thing I could've lived without: "I stoppa the time!"

Thanks for the positivity!I thought was fun and had a good time too!

Short of the "stoppa the time" and "move beach (change the 5 letters)" there isn't really anything I'd change! It was fun, and I'll be watching it a few more times this week fo shoooooooooooooooooooooo!!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Why they are including the combiner wars series here, I've not the foggiest.

The bonus feature is part of the lead-up to the launch of the second part of the Combiner Wars saga, Transformers: Titans Return, which debuts on November 14th and welcomes Peter Cullen, Wil Wheaton, Judd Nelson, and others to the voice talent.

Nyeh, still not a really good reason. You want to build hype for a new series, not tie it with the first Transformers movie that really didn't do too well in any capacity and by extent tie in a bad series with a subpar movie

(note: I was ok with the movie. I'm mostly upset that the entire Bee/Prime fight was shown in previews, there was nothing new save the final few seconds/revelation of the outcome!!)

[galvatron00]

(note: I was ok with the movie. I'm mostly upset that the entire Bee/Prime fight was shown in previews, there was nothing new save the final few seconds/revelation of the outcome!!)

Trailers ruin movies (sometimes)! BUT, the LEGO Ninjago trailer has things that didn't even make it IN to the movie! So there's that.

[noctorro]

Glad you enjoyed the movie itscramtastic, I for one hated it and loved parts of Age of Extinction.

The Last Knight is one of the shortest Transformers movies, like the first and Age of Extinction is the longest of them all (sidenote)

I think The Last Knight is thé most disconnected from Transformers, and movies.

[galvatron00]

Glad you enjoyed the movie itscramtastic, I for one hated it and loved parts of Age of Extinction.

The Last Knight is one of the shortest Transformers movies, like the first and Age of Extinction is the longest of them all (sidenote)

I think The Last Knight is thé most disconnected from Transformers, and movies.

Thanks noctorro!

Well hey look at that, Age of Extinction felt so long because IT WAS!! Everything else was around 2:30 while that was 2:45!
Transformers (2007) 2h 24min
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) 2h 30min
Transformers: Dark of the Moon (2011) 2h 34min
Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014) 2h 45min
Transformers: The Last Knight (2017) 2h 29min

It's funny but I felt that way about AoE that you feel about TLK. Crazy stuff. AoE has grown on me, I think I was just expecting TLK to be terrible and I ended up being entertained! Maybe that was the deal, I had my expectations high for AoE and had them low for TLK.

[noctorro]

I had my expectations high for AoE and had them low for TLK.

Haha, exactly.

When I saw the Age of Extinction trailers I was kind of confused, not really paying attention, I really enjoyed Dark of the Moon and thought TF4 would work out fine.
So I didn't get annoyed with all the flaws, sure the new Autobots were shallow as hell and the spaceship part was kind of boring.

But it started very dark with Ratchet (chills man), and then Optimus in the run with a non-child human. Then he loses his stuff and just attacks a facility.
I loved the Galvatron part.

So I did have high expectations for TF5, and the trailers made it even higher.
With a serious narrator, Cybertron in the air, A freaking man made ED209, evil Optimus Prime.

The trailers didn't show Anthony Hopkins mumbling, they didn't show Hot Rod do his stupid talking thing, they didn't show the Megan Fox stand in, the boring long England stuff. The endless drone fight.

They set a serious epic tone with more depth and we ended up with nothing but expositionary talk, Decepticons getting one hit killed like chickens, Tits and Ass (again), lame Autobot banter, super silly Decepticons.. blegh. There really wasn't a single part/scene I liked and then all the other bad parts weigh even more.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the trailer, it's my second most favorite Transformers trailer.
Nothing tops the Dark of the Moon trailer , but The Last Knight trailer really had me pumped.
Movie is terrible.

[galvatron00]

[quote="noctorro"]The trailers didn't show Anthony Hopkins mumbling, they didn't show Hot Rod do his stupid talking thing.[\quote]This. All this. Let's see how I feel during the second watch through.

I didn't mind the Megan Fox stand in.

[Qwan]

I went into AoE with actually quite high expectations, and maybe it was watching it in IMAX, maybe it was the jetlag doing its thing (having just gotten back from an overseas trip) but I enjoyed the hell outta that movie. I don't think I've actually watched it again since then, but the first time through I really liked it, and I still have it ranked equal-second alongside DotM in my personal list.

Meanwhile, I watched TLK a few days after release so I'd already heard a couple bad things about it, and nothing good. I wanted to be impartial so I was hoping I'd still like it (after all, most people hated AoE while I thought it was a step toward what I wanted from a Transformers movie), but even so my expectations couldn't have possibly been any lower. And yet.

And yet.

I came out of TLK let down, and for the first fifteen minutes afterward I just felt lethargic but after that I was angry. I've never come out of a movie angry before or since, so I guess TLK has that dubious honor. It's interesting to hear other people with the opposite opinions, and I'm glad you guys liked it! I guess for me, it just did something really wrong - something I still can't quite pin down honestly, but whatever it was I sure hope future Transformers movies avoid it, for my sake and theirs.

[EunuchRon]

Somethin' I noticed watching the flick tonight... When Hopkins says he's the LAST of the Witwiccans, and there's a picture of Sam... could that mean Sam got killed offscreen? Cause that would be totally hilarious if Megs decided to hunt him down and off him inbetween films.

[Va'al]

I thought I'd treat myself post-a number of deadlines to a junk evening of food and bad movies.

So I tried watching TLK.

I came out of TLK let down, and for the first fifteen minutes afterward I just felt lethargic but after that I was angry. I've never come out of a movie angry before or since, so I guess TLK has that dubious honor. It's interesting to hear other people with the opposite opinions, and I'm glad you guys liked it! I guess for me, it just did something really wrong - something I still can't quite pin down honestly, but whatever it was I sure hope future Transformers movies avoid it, for my sake and theirs.

Pretty much sums my experience. I can't even comment on what I thought of the script because of how bad the editing and cutting was - there was no pacing to speak of whatsoever, everything just kept stumbling into the next scene. Frustration is the least bad of the feelings it elicited.

[Va'al]

We have some more artwork from Transformers: The Last Knight to share, directly from the people who worked on it: Josh Nizzi, Tom Pringle, and Wesley Burt! Featuring early concepts for the Round Table and the Cybertronian Knights, plus the token product placement Vatti bot, you can check them all out below.

[dragons]

Ancient knights look less robotic and more human robotech gundam suits they look like to human less alien robot look

[Microraptor]

These Knights seem rather Bloodborne-y. I like it, but prefer the designs they used. They captured that air of majesty.

[galvatron00]

Somethin' I noticed watching the flick tonight... When Hopkins says he's the LAST of the Witwiccans, and there's a picture of Sam... could that mean Sam got killed offscreen? Cause that would be totally hilarious if Megs decided to hunt him down and off him inbetween films.

Not just Sam, but his parents too!! And they were hilarious!! I had a similar thought last night while watching. I also didn't get to pause on screen when his picture shows up.