The Energon Pub

by **Viagra Prime** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:40 am

Cyclone_X wrote:Alt mode is already good looking

the 'wings' are the only thing you need to make then?

I still need to:
1. add details to the cod piece
2. add a connecting piece to connect the cod piece to the waist
3. add connecting piece to connect the waist to the chest
4. do the mechanism to allow the head to insert into the chest
5. add details to the top of the chest (mainly add the pipes on each side of the head)
6. the "wings" (this will be the hardest).
7. Make the sword and gun.

I think that's pretty much what I have left (which is still alot of work). I'm sure something else will come up too.

by **piranacon** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:58 pm

have u got anything planned for the next scratch build ?

by **Viagra Prime** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:32 pm

piranacon wrote:have u got anything planned for the next scratch build ?

I think I'm done with doing complete scratchbuilds after this one. It takes an incredible amount of time. However, my next project I plan to do either the Alt Bumblebee we've seen sketches of in that one book or an Alt Arcee from an enzo or some other car perhaps. The car parts I would obviously use a car kit, but the robot parts (body, limbs) I would scratchbuild. I would definitely do this if I did the Arcee since that would be the only way to truly make her look feminine. There isn't too many transformers out there that looks feminine enough (and is the size of Alts) to cannabilize the parts for an Arcee.

News Credits: 149 · by **Big Grim** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:33 pm

Wow! He looks big! How much $ are you looking at roughly once complete?

by **TM alphatron** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:43 pm

WOW.....Grimlock looks awsome VP, The finished product looks like it will be well worth the wait.

by **Viagra Prime** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:13 am

Little update:
-Redid the midsection waist to have 2 rows of "teeth" instead of one.
-Added the connector piece to connect the hip to the waist. Made it so the waist can twist as well.
-Added the connector piece to connect the waist to the upper body. These are the 2 pieces you see on each side of the waist. The waist can disconnect from the upper portion of the body while these 2 pieces slide out of the upper portion of the body but still is connected to it. The waist can then be angled about 45 degrees to transform to alt mode.

News Credits: 149 · by **Big Grim** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:23 am

Wow! He really is looking mighty impressive! Wish I could do that.

by **jimsloth** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:44 pm

coool, you fixed the alt mode angle

Even looks more accurate now. Don't mind our drool, keep going!

by **Pepie** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:56 am

Impressive man!! A rotating waist adds so much!
The teeth look way better now!

Though I have to ask a thing about the altmode, isnt it supposed to swivel more ?
The frontside of his chest should become the front of the vehicle.
I dunno if it can be done though.. we're talking a lot of space here

by **Viagra Prime** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:49 am

pepie wrote:Impressive man!! A rotating waist adds so much!
The teeth look way better now!

Though I have to ask a thing about the altmode, isnt it supposed to swivel more ?
The frontside of his chest should become the front of the vehicle.
I dunno if it can be done though.. we're talking a lot of space here

How far the front side is turned or angled depends on what pictures you go by. In the comics, your right, the front of the chest is facing completely forward in alt mode. However, in Don's concept drawing (found here in Transtopia) and the 10 finger renditions, the chest is angled at around a 45 degree angle where the front is pointing down at 45 degrees in alt mode. I probably have it angled more than 45 degrees in the pics but it can be 45 degrees. I like the angled look better so am going for that look.

News Credits: 3 · by **Heat Guy** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:05 am

my god that is a holy piece of work!

by **Pepie** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:56 am

Viagra-Prime wrote:
pepie wrote:Impressive man!! A rotating waist adds so much!
The teeth look way better now!

Though I have to ask a thing about the altmode, isnt it supposed to swivel more ?
The frontside of his chest should become the front of the vehicle.
I dunno if it can be done though.. we're talking a lot of space here

How far the front side is turned or angled depends on what pictures you go by. In the comics, your right, the front of the chest is facing completely forward in alt mode. However, in Don's concept drawing (found here in Transtopia) and the 10 finger renditions, the chest is angled at around a 45 degree angle where the front is pointing down at 45 degrees in alt mode. I probably have it angled more than 45 degrees in the pics but it can be 45 degrees. I like the angled look better so am going for that look.

okiedokie!!! Hope you understand I wasnt blowing your candle or anything.. I was just wondering

It's a highly impressive work of art man.. so much time and love went into it!!

Started on the headsculpt allready btw ?

News Credits: 1 · by **TFmaster** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:03 am

pepie wrote:
Viagra-Prime wrote:
pepie wrote:Impressive man!! A rotating waist adds so much!
The teeth look way better now!

Though I have to ask a thing about the altmode, isnt it supposed to swivel more ?
The frontside of his chest should become the front of the vehicle.
I dunno if it can be done though.. we're talking a lot of space here

How far the front side is turned or angled depends on what pictures you go by. In the comics, your right, the front of the chest is facing completely forward in alt mode. However, in Don's concept drawing (found here in Transtopia) and the 10 finger renditions, the chest is angled at around a 45 degree angle where the front is pointing down at 45 degrees in alt mode. I probably have it angled more than 45 degrees in the pics but it can be 45 degrees. I like the angled look better so am going for that look.

okiedokie!!! Hope you understand I wasnt blowing your candle or anything.. I was just wondering
It's a highly impressive work of art man.. so much time and love went into it!!

Started on the headsculpt allready btw ?

Nope, he's going to have me do it.

TFM

by **Pepie** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:40 am

awesome, cant wait to see what you come up with man!

by **TM Devastator** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:02 am

This thing is pretty damn amazing. It's way better than what I think Hasbro or Takara would make.

by **Viagra Prime** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:41 am

Update: Finished the rest of the body and head. A bit of glare on the head. Probably shouldn't have painted it gloss black. Anyways, let me know crits/comments about the head. Basically whats left are the "wings" and sword/gun. Wings will most likely be the hardest part so next update in 2 months. :lol:

by **wldchld0783_338** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:13 am

The head looks really good, did you do it, or commission it? It does however look just a bit on the small side, just a lil tho, not much out of place. OMEGA

by **Viagra Prime** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:29 am

OMEGAPRIME1983 wrote:The head looks really good, did you do it, or commission it? It does however look just a bit on the small side, just a lil tho, not much out of place. OMEGA

I orginally was going to have TFMaster make the head for me but then thought it would be more meaningful for me if I do it myself, even if it wouldn't look as good as if TFM would make it. So the head was done by me. The head did seem a bit small for me too when I first looked at it but comparing pics from the comic book as well as Don's concept art the head drawn compared to the body looked small to me as well. I guess it was drawn that way to give him more of a brute look so I went with it.

News Credits: 149 · by **Big Grim** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:54 am

Very nice indeed! I think the head is pretty durned good.

by **Pepie** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:39 pm

yep..

The head is small, yet I like it.. and like you said yourself, Don's design is the same.
Good job man.

by **Viagra Prime** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:21 pm

Here's a better shot of the head. There's something wrong with it to me though. The "teeth" makes him look somewhat like an Orc. But then he's suppose to have those "teeth". Anyone else think that way too? Any suggestions?

by **Chocobo Assassin** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:01 pm

nah, i think the head looks absolutely perfect. It looks exactly like it did in the comic.

lol..i need to start working more on my WW Prime..all i've built since the last update is his left arm. If you're going to botcon, VP, maybe we can see how well they match up with each other?lol

by **Viagra Prime** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:49 pm

Chocobo Assassin wrote:nah, i think the head looks absolutely perfect. It looks exactly like it did in the comic.

lol..i need to start working more on my WW Prime..all i've built since the last update is his left arm. If you're going to botcon, VP, maybe we can see how well they match up with each other?lol

Yeah, the comic book and Don's concept art is what I based the sculpt on. The head is kinda unclear in the 10 finger's rendition so I couldn't use that even though I used it for most of the body. I went for the rounded look of the comic book but went with the forehead crest of don's concept art (versus the "ears" of the comics).

I actually may go to botcon, haven't decided yet. I'm hoping to have this finished by then so that if I do go I'm going to enter it in the art contest.