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transformers_va wrote:What a shame.. to go from a great WFC line, with Siege and Earthrise, to this. This guy just looks cheap, and brings down the line overall. If they wanted another BW line, they should have kept it separate from WFC.

Compared to the Siege/ER two micromasters in a pack that it is replacing it doesn't feel cheap and is somewhat of an improvement. Just don't compare it to old beast wars figures that had metal springs and mechanic doohickys at half the price.

Comparison:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

And I cannot disagree with THIS more.

I think their sales will show that those who were keen on the G1 asthetic, will not be keen on the BW characters. There are so many great WFC releases to date, and this just feels like a letdown.

transformers_va wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

And I cannot disagree with THIS more.

I think their sales will show that those who were keen on the G1 asthetic, will not be keen on the BW characters. There are so many great WFC releases to date, and this just feels like a letdown.

Trukk not Munky!!!

Another comparison for mid transformation and the origional rattrap

Sabrblade wrote:

transformers_va wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I could not disagree more.

FINALLY adding Beast Wars? This is finally starting to put the "s" back in "Generations". The line should not be 95% G1 with a random callout or 2 thrown in. Make it like this, 50% G1/50% BW, and continue that diversity.

And I cannot disagree with THIS more.

I think their sales will show that those who were keen on the G1 asthetic, will not be keen on the BW characters. There are so many great WFC releases to date, and this just feels like a letdown.

Trukk not Munky!!!

Yeah, I'm generally a Trukk not Munky type, but I'm actually loving the OG Beast Wars cast being made in conjunction with WFC. The Rattrap itself gives me hope for aesthetically improved versions of the 90s figures, which I had all of them. I know the gimmicks will be gone, but that's easy to overlook (for me).

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

Pretend the beast figures have a different line name on the box. Problem solved.

I'm mainly G1 but loved beast wars (also cos I prefer vehicles to animals as alt mode in g1 too) - I do think BW are trickier to get right as they went the organic alt mode route. I have a couple of the generations figures including rattrap and this looks better in spite of its size. Will probably get it and get the other BW figures depending on how good they did their job...

Personally I prefer the transmetal/robotic look for beastformers, but this is still a good looking figure of the "fur coat" look. That said, any arthropod figures I'm eagerly anticipating, especially if they're done this well.

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

It's a line where Autobots and Decepticons time-travel to join in the Beast Wars. How else were they going to do that?

Posting to subscribe, cause it's kinda my job.

ARRRRRGH! So on the fence with Kingdom. I don't feel the OG BW toys need an update. The original toys are pure gold! But oddly enough I think that Rat Trap looks great! Good sculpt, good articulation, and the right size. Oddly enough I never had the first Rat Trap so, fill in the gap with this new version, or go hunting for an old one. Or just do nothing at all.

While I'm irked at these leaks, because I like the suspense and anticipation of not knowing, I am excited to see how these Kingdom toys shake out. Whether I dive in or not.

Unless I missed it, I seem to be the only person who doesn't like his shoulder joints! I've had other figures ( I'm old, can't remember who) but having the pegs face that way just makes turned me awkward to do anything with. Hope it's not like that

Cheetron wrote:Unless I missed it, I seem to be the only person who doesn't like his shoulder joints! I've had other figures ( I'm old, can't remember who) but having the pegs face that way just makes turned me awkward to do anything with. Hope it's not like that

I'm not fond of it either, but I see that they did them that way in order to give his shoulders their correct appearance at such a small size.

Oh damn, I hadn't noticed the weird shoulder setup. Hope he's not majorly limited by that.

Black Hat wrote:Oh damn, I hadn't noticed the weird shoulder setup. Hope he's not majorly limited by that.

I think he's got slots on the sides of them to let the arms still have some degree of natural movement while in that position.

Rattrap looks so good! (For a $10 legends sized figure ) Glad he has his gun, and everything that makes him Rattrap. Not too keen on the feet, but honestly considering how clean the backpack is for a shellformer, it's worth it. I both get a great sense of hope for the rest of the line, and also a great sense of dread that this might be the best

LinaNui wrote:I just submitted this video to news since I hadn't seen it front paged. Them after I hit submit the page refreshed and it was up already. oh well lol

On the figure side though. I am really not a fan of this, I think that I will be saving a lot of money this coming year if half the figures are BW. Does anyone else find it strange that we basically know of every figure that will be released in the kingdom line and ER has not even ended yet?

As Zerowolf said, we've seen this a few times snow. POTP was crazy since we even had images to represent the entire line. That was one heck of a leak.

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Trukk not Munky!!!

I have no problems with the BW line, and I understand a lot of people like it. My point was that the 2 lines shouldn't have been combined, and instead should have been done separately

I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Anyways, regarding this toy, I get what they are doing. We had G1 with articulation, and now it's the time for that to happen with the Season 1 Beast Wars toys. I can dig it.

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

That was awesome TonTon. Great stop motion lol. I've always loved Rattrap

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

"Buy this action figure and get a free dessert"? I'd be down for that.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

I dunno about Strawberry Shortcake her rights holders would probably want the whole line obliterated from orbit depending on how sge looked I mean they did pull a comic from Penny Arcade back in the day...

The actual review video (the stop-motion one was just a trailer for the review):

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line

"Buy this action figure and get a free dessert"? I'd be down for that.

In all serious though, I'm sure WJ was partly joking as well. But serious social issues of humanity cannot be compared to toys. It's called categorization, not segregation. It's why when you walk into a store you have groceries, domestics, sporting goods, electronics etc... otherwise it would be chaos.

I myself thought previously that WFC Trilogy was going to be a past/present/future story. But the future I was envisioning was more like Victory etc... I too feel that this line should have stuck with the original series. Not for any lack of love for BW, I think BW is great, but every BW toy in this line is a potential original series character that gets snubbed. Conversely, every original series character in this line takes a spot away from what could have been more BW characters in a line dedicated to them.

If they wanted to do a Generations crossover theme, it just could have been done better IMHO.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think history has taught us that segregation is not a good way to go about it.

Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite in this TF line

I support this!

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