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by **Harlock999** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:48 am

Hey, everyone.

One of my favorite G1 characters is Smokescreen (I loved "The Gambler" as a kid), and I noticed on various Transformers wikis that Smokescreen and Inferno are supposed to be members of Grimlock's Lightning Strike Coalition in the War Within comics series.

Now, I've read the omnibus released by IDW and don't recall Smokescreen and/or Inferno ever being shown or mentioned.

As far as I can tell, the LSC consists of Grimlock, Swoop, Snarl, Sludge, Slag, Kup, Ironhide, and Wheeljack. That's all.

Yet again, several wikis keep reporting that within the pages of the second War Within series (Dark Ages?), Smokescreen and Inferno are indeed members.

So where are they? Or where are they mentioned?

Thanks in advance!
-Harlock999

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:46 am

They weren't in the comics, as far as I know. I own the original single issues of all the War Within, as well as the Omnibus. I didn't see them anywhere.

by **Harlock999** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:57 am

Thanks, Rodimus Prime.

I guess the question now becomes "Should I (or someone else) edit the War Within entries over at tfwiki.net?"

Or were Smokescreen and Inferno shown to be members of the LSC in another series or one-shot? And maybe it's just the source (Dark Ages) that's wrong ... as opposed to the information?"

News Credits: 2 · by **AdamPrime** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:53 am

I don't remember them being in it, either. I have the comics and omnibus, too. Perhaps they were shown in the Age of Wrath? A lot of new and obscure characters got a chance to shine in that series... which was cancelled mid-way, if I recall correctly.

News Credits: 10 · by **Phil** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:34 am

Is there any chance they were referenced as being former members in the G1 comic? It's been far too long since I've read those to remember.

by **Autobot-Hellstriker** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:47 pm

They werent referenced at all in G1 comics. They were shown in age of wrath. I think they are the group that later became known as the Wreckers and the LSC was a a mid-civil war group which was expanded.

Grimlock (leader)
Kup
Ironhide
Wheeljack
Smokescreen
Inferno
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Swoop

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lightning_Strike_Coalition

by **Harlock999** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:13 am

Hellstriker, you've told us nothing new. You've simply swiped info from the same wiki that I have issues with...

Until you (or someone else) can tell me - definitively - where you saw Smokescreen and/or Inferno as part of the LSC? Or where another character mentioned these two were part of Grimlock's group? Well, then I'm not buying it.

Because as other posters have already pointed out, neither Smokescreen nor Inferno are seen in the Dark Ages, which is the point of reference from the wiki.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:48 am

Harlock999 wrote:Hellstriker, you've told us nothing new. You've simply swiped info from the same wiki that I have issues with...

Until you (or someone else) can tell me - definitively - where you saw Smokescreen and/or Inferno as part of the LSC? Or where another character mentioned these two were part of Grimlock's group? Well, then I'm not buying it.

Because as other posters have already pointed out, neither Smokescreen nor Inferno are seen in the Dark Ages, which is the point of reference from the wiki.

They werent seen as far as I remember, but I seem to recal their names being mentioned as part of Grimlocks team by either Prowl or Grimlock.

when I get the chance I'll see if I casn dig out the books and check.

News Credits: 1 · by **Hairball178** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:16 pm

I grabbed my copy of Dreamwave's WW Dark Ages trade, remembering that it had a big list of who was part of which factions in the bonus material section. It does list Smokescreen & Inferno as part of the LSC, despite not being seen anywhere; so I think that's where the confusion of "are they or aren't they?" is coming from. As for not being seen, you could argue that "They were off-panel and we just didn't see them".

There are some other characters with some placements that are a little odd: Grotusque & Catilla, both Autobots, are part of two of the Decepticon splinter factions. Ones like Submarauder, Birdbrain, Dirge, and the the Pretender Beasts seem like they were just tossed in randomly to pad the rosters. I dunno, maybe I'm reading too far into it.

But here's a list of who is part of which factions in the back of the Dark Ages TPB:

LSC:

Wreckers:

Autobots:

Predacons:

Ultracons:

Decepticons: