The Energon Pub

I was just wondering what TFs bleed. Is it oil, energon, or some thing that I thought I never heard of before but in fact have heard of it but forgot it due to unfortunate events? In some universes its purple (comics) and some its oil (Animated) and some its just sparks that turn into oil on contact with a surface (movies). So what is blood to a TF?

Don't forget ironhide's fave- leakin lubricant

As mechanical beings, they probably have a few fluids throughout their bodies: fuel (Energon), lubricant (oil), and coolant at the very least.

Hydraulic fluid as well.

What about liquid nitrogen? Isnt that like TF pee or somthin?

SlyTF1 wrote:What about liquid nitrogen? Isnt that like TF pee or somthin?

no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

I don't think you'll be getting a definitive answer on this one! But the idea of multiple fluids makes the most sense as mammals have all sorts of things flowing inside.

Blood takes food and energy to the muscles so perhaps energon serves that purpose, but then maybe the energon is transported in a fluid. Or maybe the energy is transmitted by electricity through wires and they don't have liquid for blood at all. After all, if we built a robot it would work that way but then it wouldn't be alive. So who knows?

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:What about liquid nitrogen? Isnt that like TF pee or somthin?

no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

LOL!

Mykltron wrote:I don't think you'll be getting a definitive answer on this one! But the idea of multiple fluids makes the most sense as mammals have all sorts of things flowing inside.

Blood takes food and energy to the muscles so perhaps energon serves that purpose, but then maybe the energon is transported in a fluid. Or maybe the energy is transmitted by electricity through wires and they don't have liquid for blood at all. After all, if we built a robot it would work that way but then it wouldn't be alive. So who knows?

Well, if ya think about it, they all run on some sorta power source, like a battery. Energon isn't a liquid, but a form of pure energy. So my guess is energon is completely absorbed or broken down and stored like fat cells in some way or another, so i don't think there are veins or arteries transporting it as a liquid. Most likely wires that transport the energy from the receiver to the battery and then to various motors.

Coolant, oil, brake fluid, and hydraulic fluid are also must haves. They all have moving parts in robot mode and in car mode, so this makes coolant and oil a necessity. Brake fluid because they are using some sort of disc breaking mechanism. Hydraulic fluid because they have to have some sort of crazy piston/hydraulic system in place to have all of those moving parts and strength to walk, move their arms, etc.

Now it is reasonable to hypothetically theorize that all 4 of those fluids are most likely concentrated into 1 or 2 "super fluids" that serve as multipurpose fluids for the entire body to make them as easy to maintain as possible. Remember, in some continuity or another, the quintessons made these guys as laboring slaves, so it is logical that the initial design would have taken into regard building a worker that is as efficient as can be without requiring a whole lot of maintenance.

vegetacron wrote:

Mykltron wrote:I don't think you'll be getting a definitive answer on this one! But the idea of multiple fluids makes the most sense as mammals have all sorts of things flowing inside.

Blood takes food and energy to the muscles so perhaps energon serves that purpose, but then maybe the energon is transported in a fluid. Or maybe the energy is transmitted by electricity through wires and they don't have liquid for blood at all. After all, if we built a robot it would work that way but then it wouldn't be alive. So who knows?

Well, if ya think about it, they all run on some sorta power source, like a battery. Energon isn't a liquid, but a form of pure energy. So my guess is energon is completely absorbed or broken down and stored like fat cells in some way or another, so i don't think there are veins or arteries transporting it as a liquid. Most likely wires that transport the energy from the receiver to the battery and then to various motors.

Coolant, oil, brake fluid, and hydraulic fluid are also must haves. They all have moving parts in robot mode and in car mode, so this makes coolant and oil a necessity. Brake fluid because they are using some sort of disc breaking mechanism. Hydraulic fluid because they have to have some sort of crazy piston/hydraulic system in place to have all of those moving parts and strength to walk, move their arms, etc.

Now it is reasonable to hypothetically theorize that all 4 of those fluids are most likely concentrated into 1 or 2 "super fluids" that serve as multipurpose fluids for the entire body to make them as easy to maintain as possible. Remember, in some continuity or another, the quintessons made these guys as laboring slaves, so it is logical that the initial design would have taken into regard building a worker that is as efficient as can be without requiring a whole lot of maintenance.

What about somthing that keeps their pistons or, parts not squeeky and keeps them from getting rusted or loosened?

Oil. I think i said that. Yeah, probably grease too, but thats not really a leaking fluid, but more a gel thats put into joints.

vegetacron wrote:Oil. I think i said that. Yeah, probably grease too, but thats not really a leaking fluid, but more a gel thats put into joints.

Oh yeah. I forgot about oil. I was just thinking as oil as their energon transport.

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just wondering what TFs bleed. Is it oil, energon, or some thing that I thought I never heard of before but in fact have heard of it but forgot it due to unfortunate events? In some universes its purple (comics) and some its oil (Animated) and some its just sparks that turn into oil on contact with a surface (movies). So what is blood to a TF?

I think they're robots, so they may not actually bleed like sentient beings.

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:What about liquid nitrogen? Isnt that like TF pee or somthin?

no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

Or at very least, it would have been worth watching, instead of just being dumb.

In the Megatron Origin comics, fallen Tranformers would often lie in a puddle of energon which had leeked from their wounds. Not saying that's a definative answer, just saying that it is an answer.

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:What about liquid nitrogen? Isnt that like TF pee or somthin?

no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

Or at very least, it would have been worth watching, instead of just being dumb.

In the Megatron Origin comics, fallen Tranformers would often lie in a puddle of energon which had leeked from their wounds. Not saying that's a definative answer, just saying that it is an answer.

Well, maybe liquid nitrogen is like TF...you know . Because I heard somewhere that it was like somthing that TFs didnt like or somthing to that effect.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:What about liquid nitrogen? Isnt that like TF pee or somthin?

no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

Or at very least, it would have been worth watching, instead of just being dumb.

In the Megatron Origin comics, fallen Tranformers would often lie in a puddle of energon which had leeked from their wounds. Not saying that's a definative answer, just saying that it is an answer.

Well, maybe liquid nitrogen is like TF...you know . Because I heard somewhere that it was like somthing that TFs didnt like or somthing to that effect.

it was in the movie, it slowed them down. they used it to takedown bumblebee

The movie TF's were very organic-ish. I would suspect that in the movie-verse they had a nanite "cell" structure and biologically analogous systems. C'mon, they were hatching from "eggs!"

As for the toon-verse, there was more of the sense of built machines. There we would see pistons and gyros and such in the structure, with more mechanical fluids involved, like the ones we've mentioned.

I would posit two super-fluids for TF biology. A lubricant-and-coolant "oil" and a pressure-important fluid like brake fluid or hydraulic fluid. Either of these could also be a medium for energon distribution, or that could be a third system, or it could be carried in wires rather than as a fluid.

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

Or at very least, it would have been worth watching, instead of just being dumb.

In the Megatron Origin comics, fallen Tranformers would often lie in a puddle of energon which had leeked from their wounds. Not saying that's a definative answer, just saying that it is an answer.

Well, maybe liquid nitrogen is like TF...you know . Because I heard somewhere that it was like somthing that TFs didnt like or somthing to that effect.

it was in the movie, it slowed them down. they used it to takedown bumblebee

Yeah, and one of the ways they kept Megatron immobilized. Was sort of an important thing that they kept Megatron from runnin' amok.

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

Or at very least, it would have been worth watching, instead of just being dumb.

In the Megatron Origin comics, fallen Tranformers would often lie in a puddle of energon which had leeked from their wounds. Not saying that's a definative answer, just saying that it is an answer.

Well, maybe liquid nitrogen is like TF...you know . Because I heard somewhere that it was like somthing that TFs didnt like or somthing to that effect.

it was in the movie, it slowed them down. they used it to takedown bumblebee

Yeah, and one of the ways they kept Megatron immobilized. Was sort of an important thing that they kept Megatron from runnin' amok.

So what Sly is saying is: they used ...er... to freeze them? No wonder Megatron was pissed.

Mykltron wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:no, otherwise the scene in the movie where bumblebee "pee's" on someone would have been brutal.

Or at very least, it would have been worth watching, instead of just being dumb.

In the Megatron Origin comics, fallen Tranformers would often lie in a puddle of energon which had leeked from their wounds. Not saying that's a definative answer, just saying that it is an answer.

Well, maybe liquid nitrogen is like TF...you know . Because I heard somewhere that it was like somthing that TFs didnt like or somthing to that effect.

it was in the movie, it slowed them down. they used it to takedown bumblebee

Yeah, and one of the ways they kept Megatron immobilized. Was sort of an important thing that they kept Megatron from runnin' amok.

So what Sly is saying is: they used ...er... to freeze them? No wonder Megatron was pissed.

LOL yeah, if I was sprayed by... lets jsut say Id be pissed too. But that seems pretty frekn harsh to do that so some one, even for human standards! But I dont know if thats what liquid nitrogen is. I just know its a term I heard used by TFs.

Cheetor: "I don’t have any real blood, just mech fluid."

DarthMegatron1 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just wondering what TFs bleed. Is it oil, energon, or some thing that I thought I never heard of before but in fact have heard of it but forgot it due to unfortunate events? In some universes its purple (comics) and some its oil (Animated) and some its just sparks that turn into oil on contact with a surface (movies). So what is blood to a TF?

I think they're robots, so they may not actually bleed like sentient beings.

But they ARE sentient beings. I think you mean organic beings.

This discussion couldn't come up with a definitive answer because it's all fiction, but it's fun to speculate. I think we've come up with the most logical explanation but as they're alien, maybe they work in a way we can't comprehend!

Mykltron wrote:

DarthMegatron1 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just wondering what TFs bleed. Is it oil, energon, or some thing that I thought I never heard of before but in fact have heard of it but forgot it due to unfortunate events? In some universes its purple (comics) and some its oil (Animated) and some its just sparks that turn into oil on contact with a surface (movies). So what is blood to a TF?

I think they're robots, so they may not actually bleed like sentient beings.

But they ARE sentient beings. I think you mean organic beings.

This discussion couldn't come up with a definitive answer because it's all fiction, but it's fun to speculate. I think we've come up with the most logical explanation but as they're alien, maybe they work in a way we can't comprehend!

This is what I say when people say theres no life on Venus because WE cant live in that inviroment. Theyre aliens, what if theyre different?

Even fiction needs to make sense. We know a few ways that matter becomes energy and some of the side effects. As metallic beings with "machinery" for organs, the problems and issues logically progress from that.

If I were to make up some strange and nonsensical process like "they bleed grape jelly" or "their brains are made of tiny men" are not going to get much respect.