The Energon Pub

I'm just scoping what people think about the movie.

I'll start with these:


Like
- Lots of explosions and action
- The Decepticons actually kill people
- Optimus Prime was a complete badass in this movie
- The humans are outright screwed
- The convo with Sam's parents about masturbating
- I really like the fact that Prime couldn't defeat Megatron in battle.
- You gotta love the scene where Bumblebee faces Barricade.


Dislike
- I still don't like Starscream's robot mode, he should have looked more humanoid.
- It was cheesy to see the allspark randomly create evil transformers.
- So, Megatron was the source for nearly all tech? Yeah, it's really smart to destroy him instead of just taking him apart.
- That Sector 7 guy was a complete tool, they should have made him badass (think Clint Eastwood).


Just my 2 cents on the matter.

good:
- nearly every bot had their own special moment of bad-assery
- Peter Cullen!
- Prime in general
- the little bit of starscream that we did see, and also megatron
- humans that weren't useless in a fight (although IMO the movie had a little too much of that warmed-over patriotism from pearl harbor and independance day)
- probably the most destructive finale of any action movie

bad;
- the occassional plothole
- megan fox
- decepticons showed up a little late
- too much human stuff in the beginning
- needed more starscream (and I agree, he should've looked more human, his torso was basically a triangle)

Seeing the flashbacks from Cybertron, liked the way how the TF's, supposedly Bots hanging upside-down like they were on G1 comics under Shockwave's control...

Also the Hoover Dam, like a cameo from the episode were the Aerialbots were in action.

BTW,

Disliked:

The lack of an spaceship for both factions.
The "mass-shifting" cube.
The way how the cube "gave spark" to any kind of machines.
The way how the TF's can get their alt mode form.
The short appearance of some TF's (Bonecrusher, Devastator/Brawl)
The small Frenzy.
Conventional ammunition of the TF's
Their faces..., they're robots, no humans!
It seemed that each bit of Cybertron could transform..., that would be a sort of nightmare...

I agree with almost the previous dislikes, and for the rest I really enjoyed it, and also laughed with the comedy scenes like a child, I could'nt believe..., hehehe

For some reason, I get the idea that it didn't shift mass, just size - as though the extremely thin layers just folded over & over again on themselves until it was small enough to carry. Perhaps nobody could move it because it was attaching itself to the rock bed... or using some sort of force, like magnetics, or artificial gravity...



So far, my biggest gripe is the "all modern technology is designed after Megatron, and therefore is inherently EEEEVIIILLL".

I also wasn't a big fan of the potty humor - Bumblebee peeing on the S7 agent, and Mojo peeing on Ironhide.

I thoroughly enjoyed everything else, though, ESPECIALLY the designs. They looked more alien & less human, which I liked.

Hot_Rod wrote:Since when does anyone call their worst mortal enemy, "Brother"?

When their mortal enemy is their brother...

They're all from the same Allspark, so they're all "brothers" in a way. I seriously didn't give this line any thought at all, because I immediately recognized that. Plus Prime is a good guy, and "love thy enemies" and all that...

Hot_Rod wrote:My suggestion for the sequal is to downsize unnessescary scenes to the overall plot (like the backyard scene and it could have been done with out the Army battles in the dessert.) and concentrate more on making and emotional attachment with the Transformers to bring out their personalities and making it so it actually matters when one dies. I would also say to try and give the Transformers more realistic looking arms, (I would'nt get tired of repeat, a spaceship, even a small one will bring more options to the movie, the arms, a place to be repaired, supplies, a kind of home/H.Q., etc) hands, and head designs. Aslo make them more identifiable to their characters. Give them more color. (I couldnt' tell Jazz, Starscream, Megatron, Devastator, and Bonecrusher (which one is the tank?) apart in robot mode. They all had the same color and looked the same.) Even non fans who just know Transformers from their childhood said this on the Redskins website thread about the movie.

Also the "death" of Jazz, and the Cons, being robots they should be harder to totally terminate them..., as in the comic G1 series some of them (Bee included) survived their nut sized "brains", maybe too small, but like the Terminator T-800 till the head is totally destroyed, it keeps fighting, or at least running..., a robot, should'nt have so vital parts as a human or animal being has...

Jazz is "only" cut in half, maybe its electronic brain (not placed in its head, but its torso) results totally destroyed, then I accept its death...


I also really enjoyed the agility of all of them.

Jordi S3 wrote:

Hot_Rod wrote:My suggestion for the sequal is to downsize unnessescary scenes to the overall plot (like the backyard scene and it could have been done with out the Army battles in the dessert.) and concentrate more on making and emotional attachment with the Transformers to bring out their personalities and making it so it actually matters when one dies. I would also say to try and give the Transformers more realistic looking arms, (I would'nt get tired of repeat, a spaceship, even a small one will bring more options to the movie, the arms, a place to be repaired, supplies, a kind of home/H.Q., etc) hands, and head designs. Aslo make them more identifiable to their characters. Give them more color. (I couldnt' tell Jazz, Starscream, Megatron, Devastator, and Bonecrusher (which one is the tank?) apart in robot mode. They all had the same color and looked the same.) Even non fans who just know Transformers from their childhood said this on the Redskins website thread about the movie.

Also the "death" of Jazz, and the Cons, being robots they should be harder to totally terminate them..., as in the comic G1 series some of them (Bee included) survived their nut sized "brains", maybe too small, but like the Terminator T-800 till the head is totally destroyed, it keeps fighting, or at least running..., a robot, should'nt have so vital parts as a human or animal being has...

Jazz is "only" cut in half, maybe its electronic brain (not placed in its head, but its torso) results totally destroyed, then I accept its death...


I also really enjoyed the agility of all of them.

why did jazz die when he was cut in half, but frenzy lived when his head was ripped from his torso?

cyclonus11 wrote:For some reason, I get the idea that it didn't shift mass, just size - as though the extremely thin layers just folded over & over again on themselves until it was small enough to carry. Perhaps nobody could move it because it was attaching itself to the rock bed... or using some sort of force, like magnetics, or artificial gravity...

I also did an efford of imagination I told myself the cube was made of a sort of semi-solid energy quantum mechanics ruled (kinda black hole'ish thing)..., able to be an Allspark cube, but not any TF's..., imagine whatever Cybertronian tech could achieve...

decepticonjon wrote:why did jazz die when he was cut in half, but frenzy lived when his head was ripped from his torso?

Yeah, I mean this...