Shadowman wrote:Keeperofthespark wrote:If that's the case then why do people call the work of James Cameron popcorn entertainment when T-2 and Aliens took themselves pretty seriously, and had alot of plot for them.
To be honest, I was watching Aliens more for the parts with Aliens killing people and being shot. Also for the Sigourney Weaver hotness.
Yes.
T2 and Aliens did
not take themselves pretty seriously. Schindler's List took itself pretty seriously. Amistad took itself pretty seriously. Good Will Hunting took itself pretty seriously.
Aliens and T2 are popcorn movies because even after all the serious stuff in them, they were still more about action, explosions, hot chicks, special effects, and cool monsters.
You have to put it in perspective.
Out of these five movies all with very serious plots and stories, two are popcorn movies, two are not, and one is a gray area:
Eraserhead
First Blood
Jacob's Ladder
Trainspotting
Punisher
It should be easy to tell which are which, even if you haven't seen all of them. Mostly because the popcorn movie will almost always also be famous, and even if it has a serious tone, it is still mostly about the action.
For instance, two of those movies (First Blood and Jacob's Ladder) are about troubled Vietnam veterans, but only one of them is about an
ass-kicking troubled Vietnam veteran (First Blood). Which would be the popcorn movie?
Another example: A truly serious movie about a man who lost his family would not follow his path of revenge as he stalks and kills everyone responsible, unless he wasn't supposed to also be the hero. A serious drama about revenge would probably reflect on the irony and horror of the human condition, and make the vengeful man into just as terrible of a figure as the killers.
A popcorn movie about revenge (Punisher) would do all that, but at the same time it would also expect you to root for him and cheer for each killing. It would be an overall fun experience, whereas the truly serious one would be challenging you and making you reflect on the tragedy.
Yet another example: A movie (Eraserhead) about a man with a mutated baby might be silly or serious. It all depends on the tone. Is it shown as sad? Is it shown as funny? Is it shown as just plain strange and creepy? Some people get their thrills out of strange and creepy, so for them it's popcorn, but most people, if it's strange and creepy enough, will probably walk away in a more serious and reflective mood.
And the final example: A truly serious movie might also make you laugh, but I've yet to see a movie about the depths of heroin addiction (Trainspotting) that isn't meant to make you think and reflect on society.
So basically, a popcorn movie that is also serious would still contain more thrills than seriousness. I can't comment on horror movies because I don't watch them, but I would venture to say that the Saw movies are popcorn movies because the gory traps in them are supposed to be the "good parts", so it has more thrills and excitement than seriousness about the deaths onscreen.