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What would the Transformers: The Movie (1986) be like if Optimus Prime did not die?

Better. No seriously, the movie would have been like 20 minutes longer in which Unicron would have been dealt with most expediently. Maybe season 3 wouldn't have been so awful either.

From a realistic point of view, then there would have been no movie. The movie was just to move past the original characters and bring in the new ones for kids to buy. Unfortunately HASBRO had no idea the backlash they would receive from killing Prime ultimately forcing them to bring him back. Not to mention the way he came back was so lame.

From a kids point of view, he'd probably be forced to fight Galvatron time and again cuz Unicron wanted the matrix. And since he was so badly injured, he'd probably pass temporary leadership til he healed, Galvatron woulda killed whatever bot had the matrix and it would have ended with Prime throwing Galvatron into deep space and destroying Unicrom with the matrix he just go back. Of course they could've made him Powermaster Prime at this point due to he need of regeneration and all.

hmm... Ultra Magnus would have been Optimus Prime... and could deal with everything. Realizing his mortality, he passes on the matrix to... Prowl or... someone. They get killed and because Hotrod somehow gets the matrix back for Ultra Optimus, he gets to be his apprentice Prime. In season 3 Optimus must come out of retirement as Powermaster Optimus and save Rodimus.

It is a slight change from 1st Gen's telling.

What if Prime did not die...? Hum, five words:

Season three, more drool factor!

Seriously though, I believe more than Prime's survival was needed to make me like 3rd season.

You mean BESIDES me possibly liking the movie?

AxiomScion wrote:hmm... Ultra Magnus would have been Optimus Prime... and could deal with everything. Realizing his mortality, he passes on the matrix to... Prowl or... someone. They get killed and because Hotrod somehow gets the matrix back for Ultra Optimus, he gets to be his apprentice Prime. In season 3 Optimus must come out of retirement as Powermaster Optimus and save Rodimus.

It is a slight change from 1st Gen's telling.

I like this idea of Rodimus being Optimus's apprentice instead of some hot shot who's suddenly the new leader. If there's ever a G1 reboot show, I vote for this to be the new movies plot. I'd just add on thing. Keep the beginning of the original with the Battle at Autobot City, Optimus Prime vs Megatron:The Final Battle. But have Prime on his death bed during the rest of the movie, until Hot Rod uses the Matrix to destroy Unicron and revive Prime and the other Autobots. It would be very dramatic that way.

I think our fandom wouldn't have been as large.
I could've not been a transformers fan.
I got into Transformers when I was about 7 and watched Armada.
It was good, but it could've wound up being just a fad if Starscream had not died.
I didn't like Energon, but when the Movie was announced I was just like a lot of you guys:
hated the new designs
Michael Bay sux.
But I'll still watch it(and i loved it)
If I wasn't a TF Fan, then I would've just thought, oh a Michael Bay movie. and never watch it.

TF The Movie would've just been really cheesy if Prime didn't die. All they'd do was introduce new toys to buy and... that's it.

UltraPrimal wrote:

AxiomScion wrote:hmm... Ultra Magnus would have been Optimus Prime... and could deal with everything. Realizing his mortality, he passes on the matrix to... Prowl or... someone. They get killed and because Hotrod somehow gets the matrix back for Ultra Optimus, he gets to be his apprentice Prime. In season 3 Optimus must come out of retirement as Powermaster Optimus and save Rodimus.

It is a slight change from 1st Gen's telling.

I like this idea of Rodimus being Optimus's apprentice instead of some hot shot who's suddenly the new leader. If there's ever a G1 reboot show, I vote for this to be the new movies plot. I'd just add on thing. Keep the beginning of the original with the Battle at Autobot City, Optimus Prime vs Megatron:The Final Battle. But have Prime on his death bed during the rest of the movie, until Hot Rod uses the Matrix to destroy Unicron and revive Prime and the other Autobots. It would be very dramatic that way.

Yeah, I was thinking Hotrod would have gotten a better rap if he didn't single handedly pull a Starscream and get rewarded for it.

Sure Prime's critical damage could have been atributed to him but that added with his taking the Prime mantel and matrix in the same 90 minutes... There had to be a better way.

I'ld still like Ultra Magnus to exist though. He could lead the wreckers as the post movie Dinobots seeing as the season 1 toys were being phased out. I'ld have him arrive a little earlier but out of his armour. Have Magnus over looking Megatron's defeated frame and hard to distinguish from an uninjured Optimus.

We'ld get a little more concrete Magnus and Optimus tie in, while pushing the new characters forward. Springer would have a definite past with Hotrod and Arcee, but is appointed second under Magnus. The full Magnus and Optimus story can be explained in season 3.

Season 3 could also have Straxus (from marvel comics) possing as a reborn Megatron which pushes Galvatron over the edge and brings Optimus out of retirement. Straxus dies and Thunderwing is introduced. Grimlock builds the Technobots from Unicron's head. Starscream is actually given a body meshed with both Thundercraker's firepower and Skywarp's teleportation by Unicron, making him more formidable than ever before. Head masters are introduced and Scorpinok becomes a key player.

Season 4 should be interesting with all the players involved. Various master tech and pretender shells revitalize new soldiers and old. Thunderwing and Starscream make a united power play against the insane Galvatron. This is over turned by Shockwave and Scorpinok with much help from Sixshot neutralizing Ultra Magnus. Powermaster Optimus Prime is born to repay this wrong and prevent the Decepticon forces from consolidating. In the shifting of power Soundwave and Cyclonus work to restore Galvatron's sanity by purging the Megatron personality.

TF:TM2! Soundwave uploads the Megatron personality into the deactivated Megatron (season 3 Straxus body with weaker fusion canon). IDW's awaited dream fight happens. He still functions...

Scourge (or Thunderwing) gets a hold of the matrix and Alpha Trion dies. A corrupted Matrix splits Rodimus Prime into two mechs and kills his targetmaster. Apprentice Rodimus drops the Prime part after loosing his targetmaster and becoming a Super Sports Truck while mentoring Hotshot (armada) who reminds him of his pre-movie self. Darkrod, an evil Hotrod with a targetmaster, looks to restore Unicron. He seems to have allies.

Season 5 Unicron's head is almost attached to Charr and Megatron makes his in series return (guess were) for his original fusion canon. Rodimus defeats Darkrod or goes after him. The hate plague, cosmic rust, and nucleon will bring the TF mythos to a close and all will be one in the Pax Cybertron.

Until Gen 2

That sounds like a wicked awesome series.

Replace Magnus with Prime in the scene where Springer says "Hot Rod & Kup just bought it." and have Prime turn that ship around straight toward Quintessa.