The Energon Pub

You get to direct the next transformers cartoon series. But before you get all fired up there are limitations to this. Hasbro gives you these guidelines (Not realy Hasbro. Just trying to set the mood or something... In fact I give the guidelines):

- The target public is 5-8 years old boys
- It can't be a sequel.
- The universe must be open to unseen characters (in order to sell toys not in the series)

You must describe the following:

- Animation style
- Main charaters roster
- The gimmick chosen to sell more toys.
- General storyline
- Anything else you want to add.

I'm quite happy with what I have seen from animated.

The way Animation is going in the US, Hasbro had 6 main options to go for:
1: US Anime style (Avatar, TMNT)
2: Minimalist style (Powerpuff Girls, Dexters Labratory)
3: Nickolodeon Style (Spongebob, Rugrats)
4: Cartoon Network Style (Teen Titans, Samurai Jack)
5: CGI (Jimmy Neutron)
6: CGI/cel animation mix. (Transformers Cybertron)

They had already used 5 over the last 3 series, and 4 is close enough to 5 to pretty much rule it out, since they wanted a new look and feel for the shows. 3 would probably get them sued.

Hasbro were smart, and got Cartoon Network to do all the hard work of designing the characters, thankfully it seems that Cartoon Network went with the more complete style of animation, with proper backgrounds ala Teen Titans, over their horrible minimalist backgrounds in shows such as Dexter's Labratory.

I'm just glad they didnt go for a Sealab 2010 or Harvey Birdman style show, made with cut outs of older series characters.

I would sue them for saying "8-10 year old boys"

Make it "8-34 year old boys"

5-8 year olds? WTF? I did not know that's what age group Hasbro is targeting.

Venom Phoenix wrote:I would sue them for saying "8-10 year old boys"

Make it "8-34 year old boys"

Agreed. Only I'd say 8-34 year olds period. I can't get over how many chicks dig Transformers. I thought I was a freak for it.

Heatseeker wrote:

Venom Phoenix wrote:I would sue them for saying "8-10 year old boys"

Make it "8-34 year old boys"

Agreed. Only I'd say 8-34 year olds period. I can't get over how many chicks dig Transformers. I thought I was a freak for it.

Yeah good point. I was helping out with a radio station at the premier of Transformers and we had a trivia session. A guy and girl couple came up and the guy didn't know anything, the girl was answering all the questions.

I would do the cell animation, try to do that style again.

I would reproduce the g1 theme, (the first season), and even have the little Symbol flying around.

The plot would be about the autobots Transformers crashing on earth, with the decepticons in the near future. Earth has the Matrix of leadership, and hte Autobots are trying to look for it. THey stumble around, the Decepticons try to find the matrix and destroy it. Plot twists happen, more transformers come, they find life values in every episode, etc. Toward the end of the series, Galatron comes from the future to try to kill himself (Megatron) and the Autobots - cause he finally was under control from the evil Unicron which destroyed cybertron - then both decepticons and autobots deciede to work with each other after loosing many of their own.



Cast wouldn't be large to start with.
Autobots:
Ultra Magnus - He'd be one of those trucks with lots of missiles attached on it.

Hot Shot - Some Porsche.

Ratchet - You guess it, an ambulance kind of car.


Silverbolt -


Optimus Prime (who was frozen in the north pole with the matrix of leadership) - an yeah, it would be a huge semi.

Grimlock - How could he not be a dinosaur?

Decepticons:
Megatron - Turns into large sniper gun /w tripod, or jet. (Like the movie)

Starscream - F-22 Raptor. Red, black and white baby.

Thundercracker - Would have personalty kind of like cyclonious (from g1) - but would turn into a c-130


Waspinator - (or have a character like him, named differently) - would be some sort of light tank. Kinda like:


Soundwave - Who turns into an Ipod - with attachable speakers. And yeah, he'd have the voice.

Cool somebody FINALLY understood the point of this topic. I KNOW everybody here wants some kind of sequel to G1

or some mature storyline. But the experiment of the Spawn animated series showed us that mature cartoons doesn't work

in america. Even the 1986 TF movie could not be shown to kids today without a horde of angry mothers attacking the TV

station who aired it. Let's not turn this topic into whining about that but about creating a make-believe cartoon.

EDIT:

Animation style :
Something like The Batman. Good animation with seemingless cellshaded 3D vehicules and robots.

Main charaters roster:
Autobots:
Optimus Prime
- Fearless leader.
- His mind is similar to both G1 Prime and Optimus Primal.
- Transforms into a fully equiped Fire Engine.
Rodimus
- Second in command.
- Behaves alot like Chakotay in Startrek Voyager but more heroic and less superstitious.
- Transforms into a new Corvette.
Jazz
- Cool and easygoing.
- He likes human culture
- Transforms into a Porche 911
Bumblebee
- Young autobot.
- Respects nature
- Transforms into a Toyota Yaris.
- Not taken seriously by the older Bots.
Arcee
- Acts like in the cartoon movie but not the part where she takes care of kids.
- Transforms into a Mazda Miata.
- Has a crush on Rodimus
Firestar
- Mature female
- Transforms into a Toyota Estima
Wheeljack
- Leading scientist
- Similar to G1 Wheeljack
- Transform into a Toyota Volta


Decepticons:
Megatron
- Charismatic Leader.
- Transforms into a high tech hover tank and a futuristic space fighter.
- Cruel but can show loyalty sometimes.
- Metallic grey in color
Starscream
- Leader of the earth mission until Megatron arrives
- Intelligent, agressive and vengeful.
- Skilled warrior.
- Doesn't agree with Megatron's tactics.
- Transforms into a Grey F-35 Lightning II
Skywarp
- Brother of Starscream
- Can teleport
- Serious and loyal toward Starscream
- Scientist
- Transforms into a Black FA-22
Thundercracker
- Brother of Starscream (The younger one)
- Prankster
- Transforms into a Northrop YF-23 prototype
Scourge
- Second in command of Megatron
- Old timer.
- Transforms into a F-4 Phantom II
Cyclonus
- Old veteran soldier type
- Transforms into a AH-64D Apache Longbow
Chromia
- Behaves like Blackarachia.
- Hacker
- Transforms into a Mitsubishi ATD-X


Many transofmers are seen in combat but are not named. That phenomenon is rare at the begining and increases as new toys are produced. Near the end thousands can be seen. Many of them are recolors or toys from previous toylines.

The gimmick chosen to sell more toys:
Some TF come with human pilots.

General storyline:
During an exploration travel, the Ark is shot down by the decepticons. Optimus manages to bring the Nemesis down with him. Of course both ships crash on earth. Megatron wants to enslave mankind to create an army of drones. Optimus feels guilt for bringing this upon mankind and decides to protect them with his own life. His team of Scientists and civilian Autobots have to make good use if their strategic circuits. Battles soon breaks into a war in wich the humans are provided with cybertronian technology by the autobots. The first human met by the autobots is a 16 years old orphan boy who is particularly gifted in robotics. The boy eventualy create his own TF body with the help of Wheeljack.

To add up to my concept (and to bring back the topic on top) I would add Star Trek Voyager style holograms. To help the "robot in disguise" concept and give every toy a small human figure, most transformers would be able to generate a tangible hologram (you know... photons and forcefield... basic technology realy.) The holograms would be limited to a certain distance. (about 2 miles from the TF's body) The hologram can only be activated while in alternate mode. While the hologram is activated, the spark of the transformer is in the hologram and the body becomes like a normal vehicule.

Here's some of my ideas:

Animation: Justice League style (they did some decent robots)

Autobot Roster:
Ultra Magnus: Leader of the Autobots on Earth
- Transforms into a truck with weapons mounted on it.
- His trailer can also become a repair bay.

Prowl: second in command
- Armored swat van.
- He's incredibly powerful, even more then his past incarnations.

Blurr: Warrior
- A redesign based on Armada Blurr
- Race car
- Talks normal

Arcee: Warrior/recon
- transforms into a futuristic motorcycle
- Can blend into the background (not fully invisible)

Airrazor: Warrior/flyer
- Transforms into a jet
- Has great melee skills

Grimlock: Heavy assault
- Thinks that the others are too soft
- has 10 protoforms stashed away

Wheeljack: Warrior/Support
- Car altmode
- Repairs other Autobots
- Is in cahoots with Grimlock


Decepticon Roster:

Thunderwing: Decepticon leader on Earth
- Cybertronian jet altmode (has FTL capabilities)
- Has a detachable battlearmor that can be remote controlled.

Starscream: Second in command
- Transforms into prototype jet
- Wants to overthrow Thunderwing

Brawl: Warrior
- Tank altmode
- Huge and powerfull, has low speed though

Firestar: Warrior
- Female seeker
- Pretty badass fighter

Blitzwing: Elite Warrior
- Triplechanger tank/jet
- Sent by Megatron to reinforce the Earth Decepticons
- Pretty powerfull.

Jetstorm: Warrior/recon
- Fast Decepticon
- Sonic based weaponary
- Thin armor (when compare to others)

Zarak: Inactive
- Kept on lifesupport in the Decepticon base (only Thunderwing knows about this)
- Great scientist, his inventions could win the war
- Has plans of his own.

Constructicons:
- Great builders and techsupport
- Don't combine (not yet)
- Can create constructidrones to do their work.


Plot:
The Decepticons are already on Earth, it is the Autobots who discover this and start searching the globe for them. The Decepticons secretly built subterranean thermal plants to massproduce energon.

The Decepticon base is in ancient Decepticon warship that crashed 4 million years ago. Zarak was the captain of that ship. This will also be part of a later plot.

The Autobots have a ship that can double as a mobile base. Though they damage in the early episodes. They are essentially left stranded on Earth, atleast untill help arrives in season 2.

Optimus Prime and Megatron don't feature too much, they show up near the beginning and when season 2 kicks off.


Gimmicks:

Gestalts: Get introduced when Zarak wakes up.

Headmasters (revised): A regular sized TF can combine with one of 4 citybots that show up near the end (2 Autobot, 2 Decepticon).

How's that?

Nice. I like the relationship between your characters. And I think it's nice to wait untill the second season to reveal the big bots. Makes them seem more important.

I'd get Greg Weisman and tell him to make a second Gargoyles jsut with Transformers.
Gargoyles had a similar target group after all and managed to get those as well as quite a bunch out side the target group.

Gimmicks are a bit more difficult, since I'm not really into Gimmicks or electronics (unless they are dedicated like ML Soundwave). I think I'd go for something like Masterpiece Prime, he all these little things like the vents at his legs or his mouthplate and then allow the children's (or adult's ) fantasy to run free.

Sarri wrote:I'd get Greg Weisman and tell him to make a second Gargoyles jsut with Transformers.
Gargoyles had a similar target group after all and managed to get those as well as quite a bunch out side the target group.

Gimmicks are a bit more difficult, since I'm not really into Gimmicks or electronics (unless they are dedicated like ML Soundwave). I think I'd go for something like Masterpiece Prime, he all these little things like the vents at his legs or his mouthplate and then allow the children's (or adult's ) fantasy to run free.

Gargoyles was great. It was aimed at pre-teen and it was cancelled because it was too violent. It's weird to think it was produced by Disney...

I just stumbled across the tangible holograms. No, no, no. You do not touch holograms, no matter what certain doctors claim. A hologram is not tangible. Get a robotic body or get with intangible holograms.

Evank_Horizon wrote:Cool somebody FINALLY understood the point of this topic. I KNOW everybody here wants some kind of sequel to G1

or some mature storyline. But the experiment of the Spawn animated series showed us that mature cartoons doesn't work

in america. Even the 1986 TF movie could not be shown to kids today without a horde of angry mothers attacking the TV

station who aired it. Let's not turn this topic into whining about that but about creating a make-believe cartoon.

A more mature TF would definitely work-the fanbase is older, it has an target audience. It could work-with cable, you can do more and avoid marketing to the very young.
Beast Wars was extremely well written for a kid's show. I still watch it.
I don't like the JSF for Starscream/Seekers. The Raptor is fine.

Sarri wrote:I just stumbled across the tangible holograms. No, no, no. You do not touch holograms, no matter what certain doctors claim. A hologram is not tangible. Get a robotic body or get with intangible holograms.

You know after writting this I read TF:infiltration. I thought ratchet's hologram was just light but when he grabed the palm I knew I was not alone to think this could work. I don't know how often this is used in the comics after the first but I think it would be a nice way to get rid of too much humans in the show.

Dogbite wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote:Cool somebody FINALLY understood the point of this topic. I KNOW everybody here wants some kind of sequel to G1

or some mature storyline. But the experiment of the Spawn animated series showed us that mature cartoons doesn't work

in america. Even the 1986 TF movie could not be shown to kids today without a horde of angry mothers attacking the TV

station who aired it. Let's not turn this topic into whining about that but about creating a make-believe cartoon.

A more mature TF would definitely work-the fanbase is older, it has an target audience. It could work-with cable, you can do more and avoid marketing to the very young.
Beast Wars was extremely well written for a kid's show. I still watch it.

The question is: how seriously will it be taken? To be profitable in america a cartoon has to target kids first. If it's well written it's better for us.
But the very best you could wish for is a show aimed at young teens.

Dogbite wrote:I don't like the JSF for Starscream/Seekers. The Raptor is fine.

I wanted the seekers to be more than clones of Starscream. I gave the FA-22 to Skywarp because I wanted him to have a ninja style of fighting with the stealth and speed. But maybe I should have given him the mitsubishi prototype...

Evank_Horizon wrote:

Sarri wrote:I just stumbled across the tangible holograms. No, no, no. You do not touch holograms, no matter what certain doctors claim. A hologram is not tangible. Get a robotic body or get with intangible holograms.

You know after writting this I read TF:infiltration. I thought ratchet's hologram was just light but when he grabed the palm I knew I was not alone to think this could work. I don't know how often this is used in the comics after the first but I think it would be a nice way to get rid of too much humans in the show.

I hate it.
When you call it hologram you'd better have it stay a hologram, otherwise make up a new name for it and give it some bogus physics.

(Besides the fact that I just think of it as a cheap cope out.)

Sarri wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote:

Sarri wrote:I just stumbled across the tangible holograms. No, no, no. You do not touch holograms, no matter what certain doctors claim. A hologram is not tangible. Get a robotic body or get with intangible holograms.

You know after writting this I read TF:infiltration. I thought ratchet's hologram was just light but when he grabed the palm I knew I was not alone to think this could work. I don't know how often this is used in the comics after the first but I think it would be a nice way to get rid of too much humans in the show.

I hate it.
When you call it hologram you'd better have it stay a hologram, otherwise make up a new name for it and give it some bogus physics.

(Besides the fact that I just think of it as a cheap cope out.)

New things get old names. What is a pirate today? What is a mouse? And when you refer to a ship is it on water or is it in space? Is a fighter a person who fights or a supersonic plane? I think calling a tangible hologram a hologram seems pretty normal compared to those. It's just a hologram with a forcefield around it.

Evank_Horizon wrote:
New things get old names. What is a pirate today? What is a mouse? And when you refer to a ship is it on water or is it in space? Is a fighter a person who fights or a supersonic plane? I think calling a tangible hologram a hologram seems pretty normal compared to those. It's just a hologram with a forcefield around it.

But there is a vast difference between a mouse and a mouse, a ship and a space ship. (The fighter issue I can't comment on, I never heard of a supersonic plane called fighter).

On the other hand their holograms (a picture made of light) are them same as normal holograms.
And don't start with some kind of weird forcefields, I don't buy forcefields that make light waves tangible.

This is not a semantic issue of two different things having the same name, it is an issue of lazy writers. If they'd called their holograms mouse, I wouldn't have any issues with it.

Sarri wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote:
New things get old names. What is a pirate today? What is a mouse? And when you refer to a ship is it on water or is it in space? Is a fighter a person who fights or a supersonic plane? I think calling a tangible hologram a hologram seems pretty normal compared to those. It's just a hologram with a forcefield around it.

But there is a vast difference between a mouse and a mouse, a ship and a space ship. (The fighter issue I can't comment on, I never heard of a supersonic plane called fighter).

On the other hand their holograms (a picture made of light) are them same as normal holograms.
And don't start with some kind of weird forcefields, I don't buy forcefields that make light waves tangible.

This is not a semantic issue of two different things having the same name, it is an issue of lazy writers. If they'd called their holograms mouse, I wouldn't have any issues with it.

Have it your way...

EDIT: Holomatter just sounds bad anyway.

I think the darker series of Gargoyle may just hit the mark for me. It would need choreography close to avatar though. the cast also needs to look damaged when they are and cut back on stock footage. I'ld target 8-14 but realize there are collectors and fans much older than this so the slower 8yr olds may get lost...

The 'premise' would borrow from the 80's movie, and the current one, to create a different feel from any previous series including G1.

The opening would be a three parter so epic that it's conclusion would need to be told 1st.

A RiD Scourge type apologizes to a newly formatted Rodimus as a 'portal' closes leaving the lone Autobot to fight a Galvanized Megatron in its temporal wake. An open matrix lies empty on the battle field. Then we see what lead to this darkest hour...

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The series will focus primarily on the TFs on earth though there will be flashbacks featuring those on cybertron and perhaps even a dedicated episode or two for them.

a few things that will be learned from the three part beginning...

1. This universe's Optimus Prime is lost in another universe were Unicron reigns supreme. He's seemingly excepted being corrupted by this TF deity to prevent the same events from happening in our universe.

2. Megatron (via a piece of the allspark and a quantum pulse) was destined to become Galvatron. whether he will or not, his frame now lies at the bottom of the ocean in ruins.

3. The all spark is fragmented across the planet earth. It's biggest piece is under guard by vector 7 a branch of GI Joe. (minimal feature in first season)

4. While there is a main group of Autobots and Decepticons on earth there are also several splinter cells across the globe in search for the shikon jewe... lerrr allspark.

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Autobots earth (main)

Optimus Prime- premier only, perhaps the focus of season 3 or 4 though.

Rodimus- Think a young Spiderman narorating type/ or maybe TT Robin with less confidence. Wonders why he made the cut for the earth mission. Can now since the allspark (sorta)

Prowl- I like Stormwolf's ideas...

Grimlock- I really like Stormwolf's ideas...

Wheeljack- I really really like Stormwolf's ideas...

Bumblebee- insert a little rattrap and a crush on...

Arcee- who may be related to optimus and Elita-1 but still likes Rodimus



Autobots (cyb)

Ultra Magnus- warrior brother of Optimus, has Grimlock's respect, may arrive on earth season 2 or 3

Springer- Hotrod's best friend and rival, surprised he didn't make the cut for the earth mission.

Jazz- likes earth lingo, a little outdated, listens for earth comlinks.

Kup- Worked with the finest generation since the war started, and trained the most recent.

AlphaTrion- Oldest living Autobot.


Autobots (others)

Cruelock- BW Dinobot as a cobra sms hiss tank (ala prime) son of... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Pr ... Publishing

Sideswipe- looking for his brother. Has Cobra Stinger alt.

New Dinobots- will splice personality into the old gang.

Technobots- better than ever.


Decepticons earth (main)

Megatron/Galvatron- premier only, perhaps the focus of season 3 or 4 though

Darkrod- a coruption of Hotrod, and Rodimus' secrete, can also since the allspark.

Jetfire (light armered scientist friend of screamer, brother of Thunderwing)

seeker trio (with interchanging duocon gimmick, Starscream is never the rear.)

Blitzwing- commando sent for extra support and to report on Megatron.



Decepticon (cyb)

Thunderwing- armored like Magnus, may arrive on earth season 2 or 3

cone trio (with non-duocon mold ie not like other seekers)

Cyclonus- with aspects of G1 scourge is seemingly old as AlphaTrion (could be counterparts)

Thunderblast- effectively a fem replacement for G1 Scourge, loyal to Cyclonus.

Shockwave- mix with a little Overlord, (for Duocon gimmick)

Sixshot- Shockwaves greatest creation.


Decepticon (others)

Insecticons (G1 type but form the 1st combiner with... BW bugs)

Insecticons (Black Arachnia, Waspinator, Inferno..as Scavenger)

Stunticons (only three, looking for other two so no combiner yet)

Combaticons (Starscream brings them out to take over)

Magmatron (Triocon, will kill Grimlock season 2 or 3)

Dominus (BW Megatron as Destros' dominator, Cobra had TFs)

Meanstreak (was once named Sunstreak..)

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Gimmicks

exo armor- Ultramagnus, and Thunderwing

Duocons- lead seekers, shockwave, Magmatron

multichangers- a few triples, 2 quads and Sixshot

combiners- Insecticons will be the first.

Headmasters- likely micromasters who control a larger drone transector. Humans may get this technology.

Targetmasters- likely micromasters reformated into weapons. Humans could work better in this.

powermasters- likely micromasters forcibly reformated into powersources. Humans could work better in this.

GIJoe- a hand full of there toys as alts promoted by a movie between season 2 and 3. Some even with master tech.

Serpent.O.R.- Every one will want this toy. Both TF and GI Joe models.

Unholy repaints- an Evil prime, and Hotrod. All toys sell better in basic black too.

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Last season is to get back Optimus Prime, and take the fight.. to Unicron. Expect repaints.

featured enemy; Cyberton Alliance- Prime and Megatron

other members

Dinocons- yes a what if Grimlock went with Megs fan idea but... a slight twist.

Predacons

Terrorcons

Horrorcons

Seacons

Sharticons

Gatorcons

Quintessons (as slaves. Hear reg myth of Quints from cast who try to free them)


The last line: while in animal forms no flesh will be used.

Skylinx-

Torca Supreme- part omegasupreme, part bw Torca, all hero.

Ultramammoth- white painted bigconvoy, only thing that sells better than basic black.

Trypticon- Still unsure of Megatron, but is willing to do something about it.

Thundercracker- Has his fallen brother's pretender shell. looks to kill Sunstorm.


Ultimately to remove Unicron's body from that universe they must remove Primus's body... ie Cybertron.

Return to earth in reg universe with remaining TFs defeat remaining Decepticon forces on earth. Learn cyberton is taken over by Decepticons.

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I'll likely pop in to clean this up a bit over the next week or two.

AxiomScion wrote:Prowl- I like Stormwolf's ideas...

Grimlock- I really like Stormwolf's ideas...

Wheeljack- I really really like Stormwolf's ideas...

Now I feel warm and fuzzy inside

-Animation style:teen titans
- Main charaters roster:autobots:orion pax,blurr,bumblebee,ironhide(wolverine wannabe),jazz,rodimus,ratchet decepticons:megatron,starscream,the seekers,soundwave,jetfire(vegeta wannabe),soundwave
- The gimmick chosen to sell more toys:come with an episode
- General storyline:sentinel prime a great leader died his testament says orion or megatron shall be the inheritant if on of them gets the matrix on earth first.

The 20 years that past from the end of series 2 up until the movie; there is alot to tell. How Hot Rod and Kup, Ultra Magnus and Springer got to Earth, and the ramifications from a Megatron-led Bruticus. Even the aging of Spike, the death of Sparkplug and the birth of Daniel could be thrown into storylines. I understand the business of the toys, and marketing timelines for the original animated movie; however, i feel there is plenty of material for a G1 Season 2.1 and 2.2. Not a prequel, not a seguel, just something to fill in the gap between seasons 2 and 3. Flint Dille written, original G1 animation, who do I need to talk to, to make this happen? It can be for a DVD, not even a television series. It could even be packaged with new version G1 DVD's when they come out.

To think there isn't a market for this production is not true, because here we are!

(I apologize if this has been touched on before, I just registered this afternoon. Thanks.)

Evank_Horizon wrote:Cool somebody FINALLY understood the point of this topic. I KNOW everybody here wants some kind of sequel to G1

or some mature storyline. But the experiment of the Spawn animated series showed us that mature cartoons doesn't work

in america. Even the 1986 TF movie could not be shown to kids today without a horde of angry mothers attacking the TV

station who aired it.

Ummmm Spawn was released at a time when the concept was very new and the spawn comics were very shocking to say the least. I remember reading them in my high school history class. (History was much more exciting in college when I found out our founding fathers were major party animals. Lets face it they were drunks!]

Also since the tf movie was a disater because of bad planning, no reserch into thier main audince and all the greed I would in future vote to actully have the film distroyed and electronicly removed from the memory of every brain connected to the eyes that saw that abomination!

I say screw the cartoon kiddie stuff, live action with CGI bots and cons is the way to go. Put it on scifi network as a retelling of the G1 with a mixture of comic and toon storyline. No charector deaths! Just at the pilot where they wake up and at the end Ratchet tells Prime they have some that didn't make it and they have to bury them. This kinda cements the human bot relationship when the humans.
Humans can be more than spike and carly there can be elderly human woman who has property near them and everyonce in a while get to see a bot in her kitchen window.
When she first meets them she thinks it some new toy.
The old lady (played by Georgia Engel) has carwipes she keeps on the second floor of her cabin's balconey where her and her husband a retired milltary general. She first thinks they are some new fandangled toy but later they become some what of a companion that Hound kinda bonds too because she is kinda lonly.