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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Noideaforaname » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:24 pm

I don't know what perplexes me more: that someone is willing to spend $200 of just four toys for their hypothetical future toddler(s); or that these things actually go for that much. I realize supply and demand and all that, but good lord.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:38 pm

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And up to US$ 500.00 like this one

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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby njb902 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:44 pm

Lol, I'd demand free shipping for that much.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Burn » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:08 pm

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njb902 wrote:Lol, I'd demand free shipping for that much.


I just had a $400 Valve Trombone sent to me from the other end of the country. It weighs a hell of a lot more than a bunch of plastic figures and came registered post.

The seller was kind enough to split the postage with me. It cost me $20.

That seller is either insane, or the US Postal Service is incredibly expensive. Image
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby njb902 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:31 pm

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njb902 wrote:Lol, I'd demand free shipping for that much.


I just had a $400 Valve Trombone sent to me from the other end of the country. It weighs a hell of a lot more than a bunch of plastic figures and came registered post.

The seller was kind enough to split the postage with me. It cost me $20.

That seller is either insane, or the US Postal Service is incredibly expensive. Image


In the description he offers free shipping in the US, so why is there a $20.00 postage fee? I never use eBay, is that normal?
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby GuyIncognito » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:19 am

njb902 wrote:
In the description he offers free shipping in the US, so why is there a $20.00 postage fee? I never use eBay, is that normal?


No, that's not normal. It's either free shipping or not. Either they're careless and forgot to update the description, or they're trying to pull a fast one. The fact that they're asking $500 suggests to me it's the latter. I wouldn't trust a seller like this.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Seibertron » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:59 pm

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njb902 wrote:
In the description he offers free shipping in the US, so why is there a $20.00 postage fee? I never use eBay, is that normal?


No, that's not normal. It's either free shipping or not. Either they're careless and forgot to update the description, or they're trying to pull a fast one. The fact that they're asking $500 suggests to me it's the latter. I wouldn't trust a seller like this.


I'd give him the benefit of the doubt ... it is an extra checkbox that you have to select to make it do the free shipping option. I've done that before in Seibertron.com's eBay store where I've forgotten to select it, but I also wouldn't mention that shipping is free in the description either in case I change my mind later down the road.

$500 is a bit much. $300 to $400, while still absurd, seems to be more like what the market is doing for those things right now.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby njb902 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:36 pm

Is $20.00 the default then for shipping, because that's the price it's asking for?
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Seibertron » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:47 pm

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njb902 wrote:Is $20.00 the default then for shipping, because that's the price it's asking for?


No but it could be the amount that he had put in for another item that weighed more and he used that item as the basis for the relisting.

Either way ... if there isn't free shipping and they're charging $20 for shipping, the cost of the item is really $520. That's why most of the items I sell have "free" shipping. If you just build the cost of shipping into the price of your item, it's a lot easier to deal with instead of nickel and diming the cost of shipping. Some sellers still don't realize that eBay takes their cut of your sale off the total price of the listing PLUS shipping now, which was done to discourage sellers who charge crazy amounts for shipping because eBay didn't use to charge their fee on the shipping cost.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby njb902 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:59 pm

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njb902 wrote:Is $20.00 the default then for shipping, because that's the price it's asking for?


No but it could be the amount that he had put in for another item that weighed more and he used that item as the basis for the relisting.

Either way ... if there isn't free shipping and they're charging $20 for shipping, the cost of the item is really $520. That's why most of the items I sell have "free" shipping. If you just build the cost of shipping into the price of your item, it's a lot easier to deal with instead of nickel and diming the cost of shipping. Some sellers still don't realize that eBay takes their cut of your sale off the total price of the listing PLUS shipping now, which was done to discourage sellers who charge crazy amounts for shipping because eBay didn't use to charge their fee on the shipping cost.


Huh,that's interesting. Like I said earlier I barely ever use eBay and I've never really paid attention, so that's good to know.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby LiKwid » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:49 pm

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No lie...I see those on the pegs here at my local wal marts and targets..Even saw them at the bargain bin stores...LoL...

What was this thread about anyways? I forgetz :P
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Arctorro » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:55 pm

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LiKwid wrote:No lie...I see those on the pegs here at my local wal marts and targets..Even saw them at the bargain bin stores...LoL...

What was this thread about anyways? I forgetz :P
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The conversation has evolved a bit, but what really makes me laugh is that the guy who started it most likely isn't even reading this anymore!
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby RodimalToyota » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:14 pm

I had a blades from the first run, I through it on eBay thinking I'd get my money back
And it went for 65$.

I then saw another one at the store.


I left it.



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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby GuyIncognito » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:19 am

I have BB, Blades, Heatwave and the green dozer guy from the first run. I paid retail price for them. I was saving them for one of my nephews or my future-kid, but damn, if people are really paying that much for them, maybe I should sell them.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Midnight_Fox » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:08 am

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LiKwid wrote:What was this thread about anyways? I forgetz :P


I think someone was gonna quit the forums cause we didn't all blindly agree with him on everything as the omni-knowledgeable font of wisdom?


I saw the transforming Chase once when the first waves were just coming out. I passed on it, thinking it'd still be there in a week or so.


I regret not buying it.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby GuyIncognito » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:13 pm

Midnight_Fox wrote:
LiKwid wrote:What was this thread about anyways? I forgetz :P


I think someone was gonna quit the forums cause we didn't all blindly agree with him on everything as the omni-knowledgeable font of wisdom?



The OP accused BBTS of "negligent embezzlement" after they made an error with his POL, refunded 100% of his money, and gave him an extra $15 for his trouble. When no one agreed with him that it was a crime and a travesty, he quit the boards and hasn't posted since.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby JackStraw » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:24 pm

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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:49 am

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Haven't tried hlj's POL style system which BBTS pioneered but given that Arctorro and OP do live in Oz, such as system is indeed practical in the long run to save on shipping but there are risks and there is just only so much an online store can do (not the douche bag ones I might ask)

Things like this happens. In hlj's case (my personal experience), they didn't respond to me like after 5 days for the headless United Wreck-Gar. But when they did, they did gave me a full refund after I shipped back the item at my expense first (seems fair to me).

I kind of understand the frustrated feeling of his,loosing the opportunity to score such collectibles for such a stooooooooooopid low price and the potential wind fall profit or sentimental value he might have had gained. Another similar snafu too happened to me when Jlist, confirmed and charged me for an order of Masamune Shirow art sets.Not a POL system but just a regular online order. Thank gawd they managed to replace the sets + an apology from Peter Payne.

Now back to the POL. So, if participating in such a system, maybe a regular followup should be in order, that would have given you opportunities to get to alternative sources.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:24 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Things like this happens. In hlj's case (my personal experience), they didn't respond to me like after 5 days for the headless United Wreck-Gar. But when they did, they did gave me a full refund after I shipped back the item at my expense first (seems fair to me).


Wait, why is that fair?

Let's break it down.

They offer an item you want, not you asking them to do it.
You pay them in full.
They ship the item to you, with you expecting it to be complete and in good faith.
It comes missing a piece and/or broken, while not their fault, they sold you a faulty item which is on them and not you.

They should've paid for all damages, including return shipping. You shouldn't had to have paid a dime. I don't think that's fair at all. You did your part, they should know what they're selling, they should take the brunt of it.

It shouldn't be the customer, ever.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Burn » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:37 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Haven't tried hlj's POL style system which BBTS pioneered but given that Arctorro and OP do live in Oz, such as system is indeed practical in the long run to save on shipping but there are risks and there is just only so much an online store can do (not the douche bag ones I might ask)


As someone who lives in Australia and is a regular user of HLJ's "Private Warehouse", this is my experience.

It's pretty handy. Downside is the automatic shipping after so many days (60, 90, not sure).

Why is that a downside? Because of HLJ's terrible communication.

They don't send an e-mail saying "Hey, something you had pre-ordered is to be released in x days, please ensure your payment option is correct".

This would be handy, because then you could say "alright, I already have such and such in my private warehouse, I can wait another week and ship them all together".

I waited ... and waited ... and then my private warehouse was automatically shipped. TWO DAYS later, other stuff was released.

If HLJ were on the ball with release dates, the Private Warehouse would be a lot better to manage.

So why don't I use BBTS? Simple. Shipping. From past experience shipping from the US is far too expensive, it's much cheaper to ship from Japan. (May have something to do with the geographical location)
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:16 am

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Autobot032 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Things like this happens. In hlj's case (my personal experience), they didn't respond to me like after 5 days for the headless United Wreck-Gar. But when they did, they did gave me a full refund after I shipped back the item at my expense first (seems fair to me).


Wait, why is that fair?

Let's break it down.

They offer an item you want, not you asking them to do it.
You pay them in full.
They ship the item to you, with you expecting it to be complete and in good faith.
It comes missing a piece and/or broken, while not their fault, they sold you a faulty item which is on them and not you.

They should've paid for all damages, including return shipping. You shouldn't had to have paid a dime. I don't think that's fair at all. You did your part, they should know what they're selling, they should take the brunt of it.

It shouldn't be the customer, ever.


Yeah. I did pay initially to send back the item. Refunded me via Paypal nearly 3 weeks later(is that the standard Paypal refund transfer time?)It kind of hurts to plunk down cash first but of course I'm living a few latitudes down the globe from hlj....its not feasible. And another thing too, Wreck-gar got sold out too (sort of similar to Bowspearer) that time so no replacements or even attempts to replace were offered.

I kind of chuck it to experience never to buy from them again except for desperation moves.
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby JackStraw » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:06 pm

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Hasbro Toy Shop does the same. Got a defective SDCC Metroplex (electronics didn't work). They offered to refund me after I shipped it back to them at my cost, and wouldn't refund the original shipping, said this was their policy. So I would be out $40, because THEY sent me a defect? Exception to policy that day.

Of course what I wanted was a replacement. Emailed them, waited, waited, nothing. Once it went past the 24-48 hours that they say it usually takes to respond, I thought about sending another email, but thought, these guys must be very busy, let me just give them a few days and be patient. So a week goes by and then I call. They say my email went to the wrong department (WTF?), so it's a good thing I called, however they ran out of replacement stock a couple days ago. SOL for not being a pain in the ass. Hasbro Toy Shop is the worst!!!! I ended up keeping it.

Last week I was waiting for the GIJoe TF set I just ordered from them. Email says I can check the status online....Tracking?...of course not, just says shipped. I figure there's no tracking because they sent it cheap. Sure enough a couple days later I get home from work and there's a FedEx sticker on my door saying they tried to deliver a package sent SIGNATURE REQUIRED.....from guess who. They send it in such a way that I couldn't even sign the FedEx slip so they would leave it. How do you send something sig required and not tell the recipient?
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Son of Carl » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:01 pm

Bowspearer, do you think it is possible that this is BBTS's way of getting back at you for costing them business by recommending that people buy their MP's from HLJ? Thank you, by the way. I get my MPs sooner now, and for less money. Thanks.
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Postby fenrir72 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:37 am

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Son of Carl wrote:Bowspearer, do you think it is possible that this is BBTS's way of getting back at you for costing them business by recommending that people buy their MP's from HLJ? Thank you, by the way. I get my MPs sooner now, and for less money. Thanks.


Isn't that kind of under the belt?
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Re: When BBTS screw up, BOY do they screw up

Postby Son of Carl » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:04 am

fenrir72 wrote:
Son of Carl wrote:Bowspearer, do you think it is possible that this is BBTS's way of getting back at you for costing them business by recommending that people buy their MP's from HLJ? Thank you, by the way. I get my MPs sooner now, and for less money. Thanks.


Isn't that kind of under the belt?


I don't see how. The first line was a joke, and not to be at anyones expense. The rest is sincere. I would have never tried HLJ if it wasn't for Bowspearer's recommendation. And I'm glad I did. I like Bowspearer, I enjoy reading his responses. Sure he can come across as a jerk sometimes, but it's the internet, who doesn't sound like a jerk from time to time? His responses are usually interesting and/or informative. So I hope he sticks around.
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