The Energon Pub

Master Renegade wrote:

Starscream GaGa wrote:Except they ARE wrong.

Going through all Animated toys there is ONE toy not based on any actual character: The Activators Dirge toy. With that being said, Dirge was placed in Animated canon via the Almanacs.

Learn to read, read what you quoted, then get back to me and explain why your reply isn't devoid of intelligence.

Oh, this must be embarassing.

You said that you need to explain why his opinion is wrong. His opinion is that Animated is bad becuase of characters have toys who don't actually appear in the show. There are no characters who have toys but arn't in the show, THEREFORE his opinion is baseless, making it wrong.

Now explain why your reply wasn't devoid of intelligence?

Starscream GaGa wrote:Oh, this must be embarassing.

Yeah, for you.

Starscream GaGa wrote:You said that you need to explain why his opinion is wrong.

Read it again, idiot. I said, and I quote adding emphasis, "if someone has a fact wrong, THEN CORRECT THEM, and point them to a source to back it up if they need one."

I also said something about opinion based on personal taste being unable to be wrong. This has far more to do with the inability of an OPINION to be right OR wrong because it is NOT a FACT.

The problem with you is you're apparently too stupid to realize that there is a difference between opinion and fact. Godzillabot's opinion may be partially based on faulty information, but that was 1, and ONLY 1, issue he said he had. The others mostly seemed to be based on personal preference, personal taste, and those, by definition, CANNOT be factually wrong.

If you had read what I wrote instead of what you wanted to see, you might not have come across as brain-dead.

Shadowman wrote:Are you the kind of guy who ignores certain words and then pretends it really proves their point?

No, I'm the kind of guy who understands English, and I understand how reality works. Just as you cannot have a chocolate cake without there being a cake, you cannot have an awful reason without there being a reason in the first place. I don't dispute that your opinion is that the reason is awful. Fine. Feel that way. However, you must first admit that it is a REASON! Ergo, you prove my point. You may not like the reason, you may not agree with the reason, but you admit it's a reason.

Shadowman wrote:Like, for example, if you do not find a character who appears in only a few episodes of a kid's show attractive, that's a terrible reason for hating a series.

Yet, it is still a reason. It is his personal preference. To tell him that he is wrong about it, to belittle him for it, to attack him for it is unjustified. His reason is just as valid as any of yours for disliking anything you dislike.

I am not talking about being wrong on the facts. That can be corrected, unless you're talking to a Republican. Personal preference is ENTIRELY different.

Master Renegade wrote:Read it again, idiot. I said, and I quote adding emphasis, "if someone has a fact wrong, THEN CORRECT THEM, and point them to a source to back it up if they need one."

I also said something about opinion based on personal taste being unable to be wrong. This has far more to do with the inability of an OPINION to be right OR wrong because it is NOT a FACT.

The problem with you is you're apparently too stupid to realize that there is a difference between opinion and fact. Godzillabot's opinion may be partially based on faulty information, but that was 1, and ONLY 1, issue he said he had. The others mostly seemed to be based on personal preference, personal taste, and those, by definition, CANNOT be factually wrong.

If you had read what I wrote instead of what you wanted to see, you might not have come across as brain-dead.

OK honey, you really need to calm down.

I'm just going to back-down on this one, reading this post, then reading through you're previous posts in other threads, it's obvious you're just a whiny, agro brat. There's really know point in me arguing with you. Godzillabot's post was utterly ignorant and stupid. You're a little creepy. The end.

Master Renegade wrote:I also said something about opinion based on personal taste being unable to be wrong. This has far more to do with the inability of an OPINION to be right OR wrong because it is NOT a FACT.

No, however, deriding a series because you don't find a character physically attractive despite that character appearing in a maximum of 6 episodes is really silly. This is something you may learn one day, facts and opinions are one thing, but bashing an entire series because you don't like a character who appears in less than 1/6 of the entire series is just silly.

Master Renegade wrote:I am not talking about being wrong on the facts. That can be corrected, unless you're talking to a Republican. Personal preference is ENTIRELY different.

...Huh? What does political affiliation have anything to do with this?

Starscream GaGa wrote:I'm just going to back-down on this one, reading this post, then reading through you're previous posts in other threads, it's obvious you're just a whiny, agro brat. There's really know point in me arguing with you. Godzillabot's post was utterly ignorant and stupid. You're a little creepy. The end.

Turned that way by an endless stream of people like you and Shadowman. Being banned from multiple sites just for holding and rationally expressing a minority opinion does that to me.

Okay, ENOUGH!

I've seen some personal insults thrown around just on this page. -edit- Previous page ...

Shadowman, seriously, knock the crap off. You are not helping the situation, you should know when to back off instead of fueling the flames.

Master Renegade, you need to back off a bit as well. Calling people idiots and telling them you hate them is not how we do things on this site.

Starscream GaGa, same goes for you, though you have claimed to be backing off, you left it a little late to do so.

*reads previous pages* Yikes!

Just one comment:

Shadowman wrote:Even WfC somehow managed it and there were only five toys based on that game. (Cliffjumper got a toy, a repaint of Bumblebee, despite never appearing in the game)

Maybe not the "console" game but...

Sabrblade wrote:*reads previous pages* Yikes!

Just one comment:

Shadowman wrote:Even WfC somehow managed it and there were only five toys based on that game. (Cliffjumper got a toy, a repaint of Bumblebee, despite never appearing in the game)

Maybe not the "console" game but...

I...

You...

Stop having valid proof that unravels my arguments!

Worst Transformers Series
Tie between Beast and Prime

Best Series
G1, hands down

gambit020480 wrote:Worst Transformers Series
Tie between Beast and Prime

Wait...which Beast series? I could understand Beast Machines, but Beast Wars was and still is the best in the franchise.

Shadowman wrote:

gambit020480 wrote:Worst Transformers Series
Tie between Beast and Prime

Wait...which Beast series? I could understand Beast Machines, but Beast Wars was and still is the best in the franchise.

I smell a Geewunner in our midst.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

gambit020480 wrote:Worst Transformers Series
Tie between Beast and Prime

Wait...which Beast series? I could understand Beast Machines, but Beast Wars was and still is the best in the franchise.

I smell a Geewunner in our midst.

If you're talking about gambit...
Nope just a troll looking for food...
Meanwhile Beast Machines was bad in the worst possible way. Beast Wars, however, I'm on the edge about that.

Worst series hmmm I'd have to say armada...really wish japan would stop making american characters look soooo cartoonish with our big eyes and such...grr. But yea armada it was very corny but the plot was good but badly carried out.

Gyrotron wrote:Meanwhile Beast Machines was bad in the worst possible way. Beast Wars, however, I'm on the edge about that.

Beast Machines dared to go as deep as it did. No other series ever came close to giving us such high-minded concepts and dialogue such as this:

Megatron: "Welcome, Optimus Primal."
Optimus: "Why did you bring me here?"
Megatron: "For the same reason you wanted to come. It's time for us to settle things."
Optimus: "What are you doing to Cybertron?"
Megatron: "Oh, that was merely an elaborate way to get your attention. An 'invitation', if you will. It seems, Optimus, that we are not so far apart as it once appeared. We both want the same thing."
Optimus: "Oh? And what's that?"
Megatron: "...Harmony."
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Optimus: "Your version of harmony is nothing more than slavery. How can you have harmony without free will?"
Megatron: "How can you have harmony amid the chaos of disagreeing minds?"
Optimus: "True harmony only prevails when all voices are heard. You only want to stifle them."
Megatron: "Your way only leads to chaos, or are these the voices of 'harmony'?"
Optimus (*viewing imagery of his team fighting with each other*): "No. I've got to stop them."
Megatron: "And how do you propose to do that? Can't you see that conflict comes from confusion, which in turn is spawn by divided divisive minds. The only way to achieve true unity is through a singular mind. Are you so deluded by false visions that you can't even see my point of view?"
Optimus (*leaving*): "We'll finish this later, Megatron."
Megatron: "Ah, poor Optimus Primal. So eager to embrance the chaos, so eager to embrace your own doom."

For me the worst series was either Cybertron or Energon. Personally, I found many of the characters in both lacking. However, I loved Armada...putting me WAAAAAY in the minority.