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Postby Saber Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:18 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
Leonardo wrote:But you haven't answered anything.


But I have, it's all exsplained in great detail over the last 3 or 4 pages. In other words go back and read what's allready been said. You're just asking me to exsplain things that I allready exsplained just a few hours ago in fact.

I answered questions then found myself reading the exact same questions I had literally just posted answers to.

I'm not in the habbit of repeating myself so this is the last time you'll get an answer from me. Go back and read what's allready been said.

When you got something new to talk about then I'll answer you. Till then go back and read.


No. I've read the pages. Your evidence doesn't support your argument. It's possible that there are multiple multiverses but the evidence you give doesn't prove your point. All your arguments do is suggest that there are different universes. The concept of multiverses is fine and your discussion about different continuities is fine but your application of the latter as evidence for the former is a jump in logic. In other words, different continuities could be in different multiverses but they're not necessarily in different multiverses.


The argument is mute either way.Even if he choeses to believe that they come from different multiverses ,witch is his right ...and his theroy may apply to other works of fiction, they do not apply to the issue at hand.
DC has officaly stated that all of its animated shows and characters belong to one multiverse.
Hasbro has also officaly stated that all of its TF universe's are part of one big multiverse.

Even if his theroy has merrit and some chose the subscribe to it [I dont] it just doesnt apply the the multiverse's we have been talking about.

I've been trying to make heads or tails of what he's been saying for a while now......but his method for judgeing the issues is not very logical....he has some intresting points but they dont fit into the most commonly held ideas as to what a multiverse is.....but he's intitaled to his view.
I can live with that.


Thats very big of you :P
Not really, I never ask for anyone to agree with me, just to understand my point of view. I think you've gotten as close as you'll get to that understanding part.


I was giving you a complement....just say thank you and dont over analyze it :P
Can't help it, I must over analyze everything. :lol:

Seriously though I do and it keeps me up at night. :cry:

... Thank You
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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:30 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:So, identical twins do not have exactly the same DNA?



They are born with identical DNA but just like wih every body else, DNA mutates from different virus'es and illneses that we encounter trew out lives.Even the med givvin for some illneses can alter your DNA at some small levvel.
These mutations are close to impossiable to detect by the way and as far as I know there are very few forenci labs in the U.S. that are capable of doing so.


Can DNA mutate that fast? Within one's lifetime?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:14 pm

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Auto Bot wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:So, identical twins do not have exactly the same DNA?



They are born with identical DNA but just like wih every body else, DNA mutates from different virus'es and illneses that we encounter trew out lives.Even the med givvin for some illneses can alter your DNA at some small levvel.
These mutations are close to impossiable to detect by the way and as far as I know there are very few forenci labs in the U.S. that are capable of doing so.


Can DNA mutate that fast? Within one's lifetime?


Where talking about tiny mutations at the celular level.You know all thos shots they give to kids to prevent illneses???Well they have a mutating effect on DNA.Having the chicken pox as a child has a mutating effect on your DNA.That why you cant get chicken pox twice.....it changes your DNA make up to produce antibodys for those illneses.Also other things you encounter in your day to day lives can change your DNA.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:54 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:So, identical twins do not have exactly the same DNA?



They are born with identical DNA but just like wih every body else, DNA mutates from different virus'es and illneses that we encounter trew out lives.Even the med givvin for some illneses can alter your DNA at some small levvel.
These mutations are close to impossiable to detect by the way and as far as I know there are very few forenci labs in the U.S. that are capable of doing so.


Can DNA mutate that fast? Within one's lifetime?


Where talking about tiny mutations at the celular level.You know all thos shots they give to kids to prevent illneses???Well they have a mutating effect on DNA.Having the chicken pox as a child has a mutating effect on your DNA.That why you cant get chicken pox twice.....it changes your DNA make up to produce antibodys for those illneses.Also other things you encounter in your day to day lives can change your DNA.


I see your point. Having cancer is maybe another sign of altered DNA, in a bad way.

But if, say getting immunity shots against chicken pox, alter our DNA slightly, then why is this mutated DNA not passed on to the offspring?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:39 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Auto Bot wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:So, identical twins do not have exactly the same DNA?



They are born with identical DNA but just like wih every body else, DNA mutates from different virus'es and illneses that we encounter trew out lives.Even the med givvin for some illneses can alter your DNA at some small levvel.
These mutations are close to impossiable to detect by the way and as far as I know there are very few forenci labs in the U.S. that are capable of doing so.


Can DNA mutate that fast? Within one's lifetime?


Where talking about tiny mutations at the celular level.You know all thos shots they give to kids to prevent illneses???Well they have a mutating effect on DNA.Having the chicken pox as a child has a mutating effect on your DNA.That why you cant get chicken pox twice.....it changes your DNA make up to produce antibodys for those illneses.Also other things you encounter in your day to day lives can change your DNA.


I see your point. Having cancer is maybe another sign of altered DNA, in a bad way.

But if, say getting immunity shots against chicken pox, alter our DNA slightly, then why is this mutated DNA not passed on to the offspring?


In a sence it is......all children born have there mothers imunity system for a short amount of time.I think it up to at least 3 months after birth.Why it doesnt remain so is beyond me.
But even in adults those some of those immunity shots only work for a short time.Me all need booster shots trew out our lives.Even with the altered DNA.Like I said its doent effect it in a very big way.
Those shots basicly leave a finger print of them selfs on our DNA.Its like you carrving your name into a hudge stone.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

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