Head Shot wrote:Okay I'm not reading through all that, but heres my reasoning
1. They tried killing off prime and megatron, to introduce new characters. THIS FAILED HORRIBLY and the blacklash it caused forced Hasbro and Takara to put Prime back in, and make Galvatron more like Megatron (hence why he goes alittle bit crazy, plus ontop of that Frank Welker started doing the voice for him again after the movie). This backlash was so bad, it actually costed Hasbro the series here in America, ebcause shortly afterward, the series ended just when headmasters was starting. This is why you won't see them attempt this again, because history can and ultimately will repeat itself at some point..
The series didn't die because of them replacing Prime or the fact that Frank Welker did the voicing.. the format changed a great deal , and the stories were more alien and spacey then a cartoon about "robots in Disguise" hiding and having a secret, yet sometimes blatent war, granted Optimus and Megatron were staples of that particular show, it could have worked out with Rodimus and Galvatron had they stuck with the core of the premise..plus I think the animation in season 3 got worse not better..
Head Shot wrote:2. Wasn't star saber or victory leo(I forget), supposed to be a reincarnated prime? If I'm correct on that, then there goes a large part of the case you had for the later g1 series
the answer to that is simply NO!! Victory Leo was a reincarnation of God Ginrae, who was not the original Optimus Prime..so i think that theory has been debunked..sorry
Head Shot wrote:3. Prime and Megatron toys always sell the most, out of any other figure. Its easy money for Hasbro and Takara. Notice why the g1 reissues of them have both become "hard to find"? Its because almost EVERYONE wants them (because its prime and megatron.
That woould be true, except for the recent success of the clasics line and the addition of Skyfire/Jetfire, whose popularity outshinned the Optimus and Megatron sales..the only way sales of Megatron and optimus out sold others is because they over produce them.. hence super popular leaders, which was also the downfall of the reissued Masters of the Universe line.. which goes with your comment on the bottom.. I'll explain as soon as I get through the rest of your comments..
Head Shot wrote:4. Its even so deeply rooted, that the new movie even has prime's original voice actor, strictly due to fan demand. And Even welker has a part in the movie (although not megatrons), he does play megatron's voice actor in the game.
It's a live action G-1 who wouldn't want those voices back.. its like the Batman show having the same voice actor for batman that was in the animated series..
Head Shot wrote:(and by the way, every time you reference hot shot being like bumblebee, you're way off... except for maybe the color of armada and energon's hotshot. bumblebee and hotshot are not alike in personality, and if anything Hotshot is supposed to be your modern day Hot Rod, because Hot Rod isn't trademarked anymore.).
Yeah except Hotshot was replacing Bumblebee because there was a Hot rodimus in that series, I believe they made a big deal about his return in either Armada or Energon..now this comment is my favorite..
Head Shot wrote:(also skywarp, I have a question, how come it seems like almost EVERY conversation you start seems to be so much so about getting away from g1, and everything related to g1? I'm not mad or anything, but its just so weird for you to question g1, and yet at the same time be so supportive of it, such as whining that the classics botcon set shouldn't be $280, and a general release. I just find it so hypocritically funny. Things are done the way they are because business people with EXPERIENCE, and know what they are doing, are making the decisions, and unfortunately for you and many of us, we aren't the ones making the decisions. Everything that Hasbro and Takara do they think will do well and bring them money. They don't care if you want a complete set of seekers, because the market for releasing 6 of the same mold, with possible minor remolds has virtually a limited market outside of collectors. Deal with it, because thats capitolism.)
Business people with experience, hmmm thats what lead us to the cancellation of the Masters of the Universe line...
not to mention i don't hate the classics line, i like them i even bought 2, but realised I'm older, and want more detailed and accurate transformers, like the Masterpiece line, with the exception of Starscreams modifications, i'm pretty satisfied.. adn I may yet get those classics, but around here they go on clearance at great prices..
As far as them not caring what fans want, thats capitolism.. huh.. I thought that was just ignorant marketing and development, which tends to happen in large toy corporations from time to time..that type of reasoning leads to mindless bending over and taking it from governments, toy companies, you name it... without question...
Why is it when someone wants to appeal smart, they always tend to use the same line Hypocritical, or not making sense.. or so on or so forth..i see it all the time..it doesn't make you look smarter just more vendicitive..
And I don't say get away from G-1 I meant to get away from rehashing it over and over and over again..A/E/C is a perfect example.. and if continues on this trend will stifle the series.. and I'm not alone..besides I think a side story in addition 2 G-1 would be nice, i also like Leonardo's idea of going more in depth into Rodimus Prime.. and First gen's idea of Sentinel Prime as a series..a new villain, a new leader, a new breath of fresh air.. whats wrong with that, try rolling down the window in your car sometime and take a deep breath.. it'll loosen you up, and maybe you won't find hypocrisy surrounding you so much..