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Burn wrote:
Well for him to function in his alt-mode he kinda needs someone to give him a cuddle ...
TurboMMaster wrote:Exactly! What kind of evil overlord you are is you need someone else to even manifest you true power?
Sabrblade wrote:Most others here are saying that he needs someone else to pull his trigger to shoot, so I'm just going by their word.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Burn wrote:
Well for him to function in his alt-mode he kinda needs someone to give him a cuddle ...TurboMMaster wrote:Exactly! What kind of evil overlord you are is you need someone else to even manifest you true power?Sabrblade wrote:Most others here are saying that he needs someone else to pull his trigger to shoot, so I'm just going by their word.
actually, he could fire himself in alt mode.
But unlike the Cons conquering Cybertron in the movie, Megs conquering Cybertron in BM was still at least explained and partly shown.fenrir72 wrote:Btw, to quote Saberblade " Only by the power of off-screen plot convenience", the same can also be said of BW Megatron in Beastmachines. He conquered Cybertron by releasing a virus in order to overcome the populace. How he did it has never been shown, just like in the 1986 Movie. Furman touched it a bit with the comic mini-series at the last page (he was like materializing...)but, well....never heard of any plans to "in canon" explain how he did it. Stopped reading the comics after AHM........
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
njb902 wrote:It always seemed to me that the Decepticons pretty much controlled Cybertron in seasons 1 and 2 anyways.
Always wanted to read that comic.fenrir72 wrote:The conquering of Cybertron in the 1986 Movie.....yeah, never really clear how that happened. Iirc, a freebie from a DVD collection with art by Nick Roche only touched it a bit.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yet, whenever we saw episodes on Cybertron during seasons 1-2. Shockwave was the only named Decepticon character we ever saw residing there. Everyone else who had a name was an Autobot. Alpha Trion, Firestar, Elita One, Chromia, Moonracer, etc. All other important Decepticons were on Earth at the time.
And even if Shockwave was in control of all of Cybertron at the time, it's not like there was really much of anything there for him to control since the planet was pretty much near-dead anyway. Sure, it still had some power, but the opening narration of episode 1 had stated clearly that the planet's energy resources had been drained, and we saw Bee and Jackie stealing energy conductors that barely had any power in them, so any power left must have been table scraps only used for the most practical of necessities.Always wanted to read that comic.fenrir72 wrote:The conquering of Cybertron in the 1986 Movie.....yeah, never really clear how that happened. Iirc, a freebie from a DVD collection with art by Nick Roche only touched it a bit.
But, when he makes his first call to Megatron on Earth, it's to ask him to send energy to the planet since Shockwave was running on empty. Evidently, things didn't get better in those four million years.njb902 wrote:Shockwave did have millions of years to change the planets situation.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But, when he makes his first call to Megatron on Earth, it's to ask him to send energy to the planet since Shockwave was running on empty. Evidently, things didn't get better in those four million years.njb902 wrote:Shockwave did have millions of years to change the planets situation.
It's not a "know-it-all" eyewink, it's a "friendliness" eyewink.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But, when he makes his first call to Megatron on Earth, it's to ask him to send energy to the planet since Shockwave was running on empty. Evidently, things didn't get better in those four million years.njb902 wrote:Shockwave did have millions of years to change the planets situation.
Or just at that particular time.
Do you always have to do the know it all eyewink?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
tfparodies wrote:I know this is off the original topic, but the thread has turned a bit anyway.
I don't follow fanfic stuff at all... but I am guessing there is some good stuff relating to the topic of what happened between 1986 and 2005, yes? Something leading up to the start of the movie. I've often thought about creating a story myself, but figure "there must be something out there already." Anyone know of any that is considered good?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'm confused, are we speaking of the American or the Japanese continuities? Cuz outside of Animated and Prime, the whole "Supreme Commander"/"Emperor of Destruction" thing was Japanese-only.
d_sel1 wrote:This is not like nowadays where somebody gets offed on a PBS Kids cartoon every day (hehe).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:d_sel1 wrote:This is not like nowadays where somebody gets offed on a PBS Kids cartoon every day (hehe).Which one? You have my attention.
A small, but comedic and energetic boy from France, Henri's parents died on the voyage to America when a plague struck the ship and killed half of the people on board three weeks into the trip. The ship's captain exploited Henri afterwards because he had to pay off his family's debt to the captain. James and Moses smuggled Henri off the ship and the boy found a home in Benjamin Franklin's workshop. While he speaks French fluently, Dr. Franklin has insisted that Henri learn to speak, read, and write in both English and French. Henri's small size has proved more than useful to Sarah and James, though he has a tendency to land himself in all sorts of trouble while not fully understanding the dangers of the war. His lookout on life is that of a "huge party for his benefit" and has been labeled a "magnet for trouble." In later episodes, he serves on the drum and bugle corps of the Continental Army. Curious and fearless, the only thing Henri values more than his freedom is finding a family of his own.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Sabrblade wrote:d_sel1 wrote:This is not like nowadays where somebody gets offed on a PBS Kids cartoon every day (hehe).Which one? You have my attention.
I'm sure he was joking Saber', but, felt like investigating for myself, just to be sure.
Google searched; "pbs kids shows characters that died", leading me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty's_Kids, did ctrl+f to find: "died", with only 1 hit: "Henri Richard Maurice Dutoit LeFevbre";A small, but comedic and energetic boy from France, Henri's parents died on the voyage to America when a plague struck the ship and killed half of the people on board three weeks into the trip. The ship's captain exploited Henri afterwards because he had to pay off his family's debt to the captain. James and Moses smuggled Henri off the ship and the boy found a home in Benjamin Franklin's workshop. While he speaks French fluently, Dr. Franklin has insisted that Henri learn to speak, read, and write in both English and French. Henri's small size has proved more than useful to Sarah and James, though he has a tendency to land himself in all sorts of trouble while not fully understanding the dangers of the war. His lookout on life is that of a "huge party for his benefit" and has been labeled a "magnet for trouble." In later episodes, he serves on the drum and bugle corps of the Continental Army. Curious and fearless, the only thing Henri values more than his freedom is finding a family of his own.
Then find: "killed". 4 hits - with more interesting results. 3 of which were outside my "died" search.
I think that this is it. Unless you count Mister Hooper, perhaps a, foil-hat, conspirator could argue he was done in by Henson?
Burn wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Burn wrote:
Well for him to function in his alt-mode he kinda needs someone to give him a cuddle ...TurboMMaster wrote:Exactly! What kind of evil overlord you are is you need someone else to even manifest you true power?Sabrblade wrote:Most others here are saying that he needs someone else to pull his trigger to shoot, so I'm just going by their word.
actually, he could fire himself in alt mode.
Yes thank you for coming into the conversation late on a topic we'd already moved on from after others had given examples.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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