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why i believe the seacons (and others) will appear on T2

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why i believe the seacons (and others) will appear on T2

Postby Optimus Primevil » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:21 pm

i'm basing this on what happened on the ending of the first movie but i may be proven wrong.

the movie shows clips of megatron and the others being dumped to the ocean where the authorities hope no one can mount a salvage operation, assuming that they really dumped them overboard (and not stowed away at a secret lab for dissection) i believe the seacons will be appearing on the second movie.

starscream returns to the rest of the decepticon fleet and presents evidence of megatron's demise, some will believe him and others won't and assuming the megatron loyalists go to earth and do their own investigation they'll probably need the seacons to do a salvage operation on megs (assuming they really did dump him overboard). other than finback, the seacons are the only marine cons that can do the job (trypticon can travel underwater too but i doubt he can do a better salvage operation).

as for the dinobots and predacons they'll most probably be suited to appear on a third movie because i believe that

transformers 1 = fellowship of the ring (introductory movie, let's us get a feel and get used to the visuals)
transformers 2 = the two towers (once we're comfortable with the visuals and designs, Bay sics massive carnage ala siege of helm's deep)
transformers 3(?) = return of the king (more carnage but wraps up the story in a fitting ending)

that's just my opinion
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Postby prowl24 » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:49 pm

And how do the Seacons arrive on Earth?
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Re: why i believe the seacons (and others) will appear on T2

Postby Justicity » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:54 am

Optimus Primevil wrote:other than finback, the seacons are the only marine cons that can do the job (trypticon can travel underwater too but i doubt he can do a better salvage operation).


Jezus bloodey feking Christ!!!
(No offense meant to Christians, just an exclamation)

The movie sereis IS NOT GENERATION ONE!!!
Get over it!
It is quite possible Bay will get the designers to come up with a BRAND NEW CHARACTER who can travel underwater, that is if this idea comes up in the sequel.
Look at Barricade. Yes the name has been used before, but was the personality of Movie Barricade a G1 Character??? NO!
Same with Blackout. Bonecrusher was not a member of the constructicons, so we can assume he's not a G1 character. Brawl wasn't a G1er either... In fact the only G1 characters reused as Movie Decepticons were Megatron & Starscream!

I'm sorry I used so much emotive language in that but I believe it was necessary, people need to realize Transformers isn't only about reusing characters & homaging G1.
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Postby prowl24 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:10 am

Maybe it is fine to use G1 characters for the next movie, but be remind that they could be totally changed in terms of appearance, personality, and functions.
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Postby Dead Metal » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:29 am

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prowl24 wrote:Maybe it is fine to use G1 characters for the next movie, but be remind that they could be totally changed in terms of appearance, personality, and functions.

tHey will be changed!

And Trypty cant do a better salvage job?
WTF?! He's a freking base, he can do anything!
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Postby Skowl » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:13 am

Man, I would totally have a fan-gasm if ever they put even one Seacon in the live action movies.

Seawing would be perfect as a hyper-fast speedboat:

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Postby lilcarus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:14 pm

im sure any bot would be able to drag the decipticons out of the ocean....it does not need to be a special g1 team....just leave it as poor writing.
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Postby Tangent » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:22 pm

If they did use a boat in the next film, I would like to see one of these.
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Postby lilcarus » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:45 pm

what would those things turn into...if you think jazz got handled up badly by a larger bot...just imagine how fast those things get torn in half....i bet those boats wont even squeak when stepped on.
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Postby Justicity » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:41 pm

Dead Metal wrote:And Trypty cant do a better salvage job?
WTF?! He's a freking base, he can do anything!

Another beautifully put argument, my friend.
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Postby Gojira Prime » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:55 pm

All I need is Soundwave, and a Decepticon combiner.

For #3, I want Unicron, and maybe Primus, if that's not too confusing
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Re: why i believe the seacons (and others) will appear on T2

Postby Optimus Primevil » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:48 pm

Justicity wrote:
Optimus Primevil wrote:other than finback, the seacons are the only marine cons that can do the job (trypticon can travel underwater too but i doubt he can do a better salvage operation).


Jezus bloodey feking Christ!!!
(No offense meant to Christians, just an exclamation)

The movie sereis IS NOT GENERATION ONE!!!
Get over it!
It is quite possible Bay will get the designers to come up with a BRAND NEW CHARACTER who can travel underwater, that is if this idea comes up in the sequel.
Look at Barricade. Yes the name has been used before, but was the personality of Movie Barricade a G1 Character??? NO!
Same with Blackout. Bonecrusher was not a member of the constructicons, so we can assume he's not a G1 character. Brawl wasn't a G1er either... In fact the only G1 characters reused as Movie Decepticons were Megatron & Starscream!

I'm sorry I used so much emotive language in that but I believe it was necessary, people need to realize Transformers isn't only about reusing characters & homaging G1.


uhhhh i never mentioned they be G1 or the BW2 seacons, i just mentioned why a specialized team of marine decepticons would be featured in the second movie
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Re: why i believe the seacons (and others) will appear on T2

Postby Justicity » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:05 pm

Optimus Primevil wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Optimus Primevil wrote:other than finback, the seacons are the only marine cons that can do the job (trypticon can travel underwater too but i doubt he can do a better salvage operation).


Jezus bloodey feking Christ!!!
(No offense meant to Christians, just an exclamation)

The movie sereis IS NOT GENERATION ONE!!!
Get over it!
It is quite possible Bay will get the designers to come up with a BRAND NEW CHARACTER who can travel underwater, that is if this idea comes up in the sequel.
Look at Barricade. Yes the name has been used before, but was the personality of Movie Barricade a G1 Character??? NO!
Same with Blackout. Bonecrusher was not a member of the constructicons, so we can assume he's not a G1 character. Brawl wasn't a G1er either... In fact the only G1 characters reused as Movie Decepticons were Megatron & Starscream!

I'm sorry I used so much emotive language in that but I believe it was necessary, people need to realize Transformers isn't only about reusing characters & homaging G1.


uhhhh i never mentioned they be G1 or the BW2 seacons, i just mentioned why a specialized team of marine decepticons would be featured in the second movie

DUDE! You didn't read my fekin post at all! Look at the quote: You said "the seacons are the only marine cons that can do the job (trypticon can travel underwater too but i doubt he can do a better salvage operation)" Thats what I was talking about... That sorta suggests that you believe the movie to be G1 ¬¬
It's quite easy for someone to make a new character NOT BASED ON G1 that can go underwater...
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Postby Robinson » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:54 pm

No unicron, no primus. No transformer gods.

As far as seacons go, i dont know jack squat about them but any protoform can land on earth and scan any marine vessel capable of underwater salvage and voila.

characterwise this movie series will most likely only consist of core characters(not nessesarily from g1) that the masses can recognize. The mass majority of ppl would be like "why are they called seacons, what makes them so different that they arent called decepticons or whatever they are called?" Its much easier to describe a transforming boat than it is for them to descride a side faction of sea capable bots.
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Postby Leonardo » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:28 pm

I would like to lodge my vote for Cybershark because, of course, he's a flying shark.
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Postby Robinson » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:33 pm

Leonardo wrote:I would like to lodge my vote for Cybershark because, of course, he's a flying shark.


I want jabberjaws
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Postby CJH » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:53 pm

Robinson wrote:No unicron, no primus. No transformer gods.

characterwise this movie series will most likely only consist of core characters(not nessesarily from g1) that the masses can recognize. The mass majority of ppl would be like "why are they called seacons, what makes them so different that they arent called decepticons or whatever they are called?" Its much easier to describe a transforming boat than it is for them to descride a side faction of sea capable bots.


QFT

Given there was a rumour of an Aircraft carrier - and probably designs hidden away somewhere - I imagine they would carry that on. Unless they ditch it because that's what's expected.
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