The Energon Pub

by **SentinelA** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:59 am

This is inspired by the many threads about best TFs in each line. However I don't recall anyone asking about the worse. Can include toys that just let u down. I'll start but other's may want to expand the lines. I'm only going with what I've got.
G1: Ironhide & Rachet
G1 post movie: Goldbug and other throttlebots
G2: (even though I don't have him) Stakks
Beast Wars: Optimus Minor
Machine Wars:(hate to say it) Optimus Prime
Beast Machines: (Can I say the entire line?) Optimus Primal
RID: Sideburn
Alternators: (sadly) Grimlock
Titanium: Soundwave
Masterpiece: Megatron
Armada:Sideswipe
Energion: Shockwave/blast (just because his cannon would fall off)
Cybertron: Thundercracker
Classics: DVD 2-pack Optimus Prime
2007 movie: so many...can't choose
Universe: GALVATRON!!!
ROTF: Sideswipe
TF: Animated: Wreckgar?
Prime:Dreadwing
DOTM:Backfire
Generations: WFC Bumblebee

by **Doubledealer93** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:27 pm

Ummm....Dreadwing one of the worst? he is one of the best. how could you forget airachnid? she is better than dreadwing?

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:57 pm

G1: The entire goddamn line.

That. Is. All.

News Credits: 16 · by **Super Megatron** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:00 pm

G1: Broadside (horrible in all modes).
G2: G1 redeco Optimus Prime (made a garish toy even worse).
Beast Wars: Injector
Machine Wars: Optimus Prime (SentinelA got this one right).
Beast Machines: Deluxe Optimus Primal
RID: Optimus Prime (puzzleformers suck).
Alternators: Optimus Prime (robot mode looks like garbage).
Titanium: War Within Megatron
Masterpiece: Starscream (first release)
Armada: The entire line, but the Optimus Prime superbrick mode really stands out.
Energon: Optimus Prime (I can't believe SentinelA picked Shockblast over this). It's like they're having a contest between the Armada team and the Energon team to design the worst Optimus toy.
Cybertron: Highwire (but the Kicker fig compensated for this)
Classics: DVD 2-pack Optimus Prime (another one he got right).
2007 Movie: Megatron (alt mode was just lazy).
Universe: Cheetor
ROTF: Optimus Prime (leader class - too bad, the first movie toy ruled so hard).
TF: Animated: Megatron (much like 2007 movie Megatron - lazy).
Prime:Beast Hunter Optimus Prime. Holy, people, STAY AWAY from this fig.
DOTM: Optimus Prime (Look! I have wheels for sleeves!)
Generations: WFC Jazz

I noticed that Optimus Prime came out quite a lot (mainly due to design and engineering issues) on this list. I think it's because Hasbro/Takara knows that the Optimus fans/collectors/worshipers will buy an Optimus toy regardless of its shoddy quality (whether it is the design or the QC on the production of the toy itself). Too bad, because we have seen some really awesome Optimus figs in the last 10 years (2007 Movie, Masterpiece, and Cybertron)that kicks so much ass that can be felt on the moon.

News Credits: 16 · by **Super Megatron** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:10 pm

Doubledealer93 wrote:Ummm....Dreadwing one of the worst? he is one of the best. how could you forget airachnid? she is better than dreadwing?

Or Big Wheel Backpack Optimus Prime...

by **Doubledealer93** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:12 pm

G1: all of them
G2: all of them
Beast wars: Injector
Beast machines: Optimus Primal
RID: The combaticon repaints. another use of G1 bad molds.
Alternators: Optimus prime.
Titanium: G2 tank megatron
Armada: Sideswipe, so would those who said prime is the worst would rater have a sideswipe?
Masterpiece: Megatron, of all the **** he gets why has no one said this one is the worst? breaking as soon as you try to play with it, rust, and can barely move.
Energon: Hotshot.
Cybertron: Wreckloose.
Classics: Tank MEgatron,
2007 Movie: Megatron Leader
Universe/classics 2.0: Ironhide/ratchet. everyone knows that mold is bad
ROTF: Megatron leader. one are has one joint in it. one gimpy arm that always giving you the finger and a half assed alt mode.
Animated: Voyager megatron. He has really small thighs and the gun is **** and falls off
Transformers prime: Airiachnid
Transformers prime beast hunters: thats a hard one, but i think im gonna have to say deluxe dreadwing
Transformers Generations: Jazz. with a few touch ups in paint he can better or with a reprolabels set
DOTM: Skids and Mudflap.

by **SentinelA** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:55 pm

Doubledealer93 wrote:Ummm....Dreadwing one of the worst? he is one of the best. how could you forget airachnid? she is better than dreadwing?

I must defend myself. Dreadwing was an awesome character and he looks good in robot mode but they just didn't do a good job with the transformation. What the hell do you do with the arms? At least Airacnid fully transforms and doesn't have appendages in the way in the alt mode.

by **RAcast** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:57 pm

Am I the only one who's utterly FLABBERGASTED by the G1 hate? :shock:

by **SentinelA** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:59 pm

To all you who included all of G1 and/or G2. You are obviously young and spoil! These toys laid the foundation for Transformers and should be respected.

by **SentinelA** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:00 pm

RAcast wrote:Am I the only one who's utterly FLABBERGASTED by the G1 hate?

Nope, I just posted my thoughts on the subject.

by **RAcast** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:04 pm

SentinelA wrote:
RAcast wrote:Am I the only one who's utterly FLABBERGASTED by the G1 hate?

Nope, I just posted my thoughts on the subject.

There are two people who hate all of G1/G2. They said this. I don't understand how anyone who collects transformers can think that way... #-o

I mean, I don't collect G1, but I have and love my toys from my childhood and I respect them for what they were, limited technology of the times and such.

by **SentinelA** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:04 pm

Super Megatron wrote:Titanium: War Within Megatron

I hope you've confused War Within Megs with that other tank transforming P.O.S of a Megatron which because I forgot about him now replaces Soundwave for that line.

by **RAcast** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:05 pm

SentinelA wrote:
Super Megatron wrote:Titanium: War Within Megatron

I hope you've confused War Within Megs with that other tank transforming P.O.S of a Megatron which because I forgot about him now replaces Soundwave for that line.

In all fairness, both Titanium Megatrons are pretty spectacularly awful (though the first one is worse by FAR). I suspect many people simply try to deny the first one's existence. :lol:

News Credits: 16 · by **Super Megatron** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:58 am

RAcast wrote:
SentinelA wrote:
Super Megatron wrote:Titanium: War Within Megatron

I hope you've confused War Within Megs with that other tank transforming P.O.S of a Megatron which because I forgot about him now replaces Soundwave for that line.

In all fairness, both Titanium Megatrons are pretty spectacularly awful (though the first one is worse by FAR). I suspect many people simply try to deny the first one's existence.

You're both right - both Megatrons in the Titanium line were just awful. The reason why I picked WW Megatron is because when I had those two, WW Megatron's waist snapped in half the second time I transformed it. It could have been a QC issue, but I suspect it's more of a design flaw because that one little waist joint had to bear the load of that top heavy character. Plus, the transformation was just LAAAZZZY.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:36 pm

To make it a "worst" toy, it must be something I just hate and I dont find fun at all.
Based on what I have and what I played with:

G1: None come to mind. I have a few, they are flawed, but each have a little something that I like.
Some lines I will not mention because none come to mind like G1. The ones I will talk about are pure HATE.

Star Wars Xover: That dropship. It's just a stupid shelformer with ridiculously small limbs. A waste.

Masterpiece: Rodimus. Not fun at all to transform, the vehicle is just meh, and he cant hold his guns. Garbage.

FOC: Bruticus. Hollow, and each individual figures are just meh. I'm gladd I did not buy the super expensive SDCC edition.

Classics: "deluxe" Optimus prime. Stupis gimmick and the worth vehicle mode ever.

Alternators: A tie between Dead End and Tracks. Good vehicles, but the bots are horribly designed.

Prime RID: Airachnid deluxe. Who else?

DotM: Target exclusive voyager Starscream. Ass-hands in vehicle modes. Not clear cockpit and eyes (screw that variant), elbows that bend the wrong way. This one made me rage.

Titanium: "GI Joe" Megatron. A brick in both mode and he just crumble in your hands while transforming. I had it for free so meh.

That's it.
It's hard for me to truly hate a figure.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:00 am

RAcast wrote:Am I the only one who's utterly FLABBERGASTED by the G1 hate?

These people need to learn to respect their elders, that is all.

Back in my day, robots turned in to guns and you could put an eye out with their swords while you shoot your friends.

by **RAcast** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:11 am

RhA wrote:
RAcast wrote:Am I the only one who's utterly FLABBERGASTED by the G1 hate?

These people need to learn to respect their elders, that is all.

Back in my day, robots turned in to guns and you could put an eye out with their swords while you shoot your friends.

Hell yeah! :lol:

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:12 pm

Probably the worst Transformer of all time is this Titanium Megatron. TJ Omega does an absolutely brutal review of him right here.

For me, ROTF's worst is Leader-class Jetfire. The only mode that's halfway decent is the robot mode. The jet mode sucks. G1 Aerialbots were better than he is at hiding the robot mode! :evil:

You get a floppy mess with pretty much the ENTIRE robot hanging from below, and the combined form with leader-class Prime limits articulation.

by **RAcast** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:51 pm

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Probably the worst Transformer of all time is this Titanium Megatron. TJ Omega does an absolutely brutal review of him right here.

For me, ROTF's worst is Leader-class Jetfire. The only mode that's halfway decent is the robot mode. The jet mode sucks. G1 Aerialbots were better than he is at hiding the robot mode! You get a floppy mess with pretty much the ENTIRE robot hanging from below, and the combined form with leader-class Prime limits articulation.

It looks damn good though. :michaelbay:

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:13 pm

RAcast wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Probably the worst Transformer of all time is this Titanium Megatron. TJ Omega does an absolutely brutal review of him right here.

For me, ROTF's worst is Leader-class Jetfire. The only mode that's halfway decent is the robot mode. The jet mode sucks. G1 Aerialbots were better than he is at hiding the robot mode! You get a floppy mess with pretty much the ENTIRE robot hanging from below, and the combined form with leader-class Prime limits articulation.

It looks damn good though.

Mileage varies on that. Because to me, it doesn't look good. And overall it's an overpriced piece of trash.

by **Shadowstream** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:47 am

Hmm... worst is kind of a strong word to use for most of these. I think 'Least Liked' would be more favorable. That said, my list will be rather bare as my experience and collecting habbits have left me little to work with.

G1:
G1 post movie:
G2: Space Case... well actually this is kind of a love/hate thing. One of my first TFs ever, thought it was the best thing ever.... fell the f*ck apart on me and got thrown away.
Beast Wars: Transmetal Megatron. Same deal here... goddamned GPS
Machine Wars:
Beast Machines:
RID: Spychanger Sideburn. What is this thing?!
Alternators: Smokescreen. I only have him and Sideswipe so it's a bit unfair, but I feel he is the more fiddly of the 2
Titanium:
Masterpiece:
Armada: Thrust. What even is his gimmick supposed to be?!
Energon: Kicker... need I say more?
Cybertron: Supreme Starscream. Waste of money, and trend setter for a future of terrible supreme figures to follow
Classics: Deluxe Floptimus Prime
2007 movie: EVERYTHING
Universe: Can't choose between Galvatron or Tankor... both are rather big let downs
ROTF:
TF Animated: Bumblebee. fiddly and floppy.
RTS: 2-pack Rodimus. Not too bad all in all, but definitely weak
Prime: Soundwave. Whoever designed his legs needs a boot to the head.
DOTM:
Generations: WFC Optimus... again, friggin' fiddly!

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:59 am

Shadowstream wrote:Prime: Soundwave. Whoever designed his legs needs a boot to the head.

...I have no problem with Soundwave's legs. What did they do to get under your skin?

I'm surprised nobody's said Cheetor (either Mega or Supreme) for Beast MAchines. Both versions were spindly messes who couldn't stand up. Thankfully, Night Slash Cheetor fixed it, but STILL.

by **Cobalt Prime** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:53 am

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Shadowstream wrote:Prime: Soundwave. Whoever designed his legs needs a boot to the head.

...I have no problem with Soundwave's legs. What did they do to get under your skin?

I'm surprised nobody's said Cheetor (either Mega or Supreme) for Beast MAchines. Both versions were spindly messes who couldn't stand up. Thankfully, Night Slash Cheetor fixed it, but STILL.

I'll see your BM Cheetors and raise you a BM Nightscream. Ugly, gangly, failed gimmick piece of slag that also has serious standing issues. Also ridiculously out of scale.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:36 am

Are we counting the Marvel Comics Crossovers figures as a line? Because I just dealt with Venom again last night, and UGH... He is a finnicky mess to transform, and does not like to stand up in robot mode.

Speaking of terrible Crossovers figures, don't get me started on the Darth Vader/AnakinSkywalker/Star Destroyer/Some Prequel Ship thing. That thing is a mess.