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Lovin' this story a lot.

I can't believe how sweet they have made Overlord, and how ultimately we have a great Wreckers story here, one that lives up to the legend that has been rumored about them. If they make it out of this predicament, well, their legend is well earned.

I still have that Aequitas thing buggin' me. Lady Justice or the goddess of justice and fairness...what's the Transformer equivalent?

Female, well we only know one active in the IDW universe...Arcee. A character known for justice and fairness... well, not exactly, but Quintessons are known to judge folks, but I can't see them being it.

Computron? This bot or thing has to be pretty bad ass with all the special locks and keys on it. Doesn't have to be a con as we know because bots were imprisoned in Garrus-9 at times too.

I was thinking maybe it's Grimlock somehow. Shockwave made it there, so Magnus has been back with his prisoners since Max Dinos, thus, Grimlock could be there too.

I just don't know, but want to hear more ideas.

What ever it is it looks to be big.

One theory is that it has something to do with Fortress Maximus and it is the body that his head transforms onto. A supporting notion is that other sensitive Autobot assets like Omega Supreme and whatever Metroplex is guarding were in secret locations. If Aequitas has some connection to Fortress Maximus it could be the reason why it is being housed in a prison.

The obvious theory is that it is a prisoner whose spark they either couldn't or wouldn't extract.

MYoung23 wrote:What ever it is it looks to be big.

One theory is that it has something to do with Fortress Maximus and it is the body that his head transforms onto. A supporting notion is that other sensitive Autobot assets like Omega Supreme and whatever Metroplex is guarding were in secret locations. If Aequitas has some connection to Fortress Maximus it could be the reason why it is being housed in a prison.

The obvious theory is that it is a prisoner whose spark they either couldn't or wouldn't extract.

Yeah I was thinking of it being the Maximus part of Fortress Maximus like in Headmasters. (Or was it named vice versa...only watched HM once.)

Should be a fun next issue, but the fact that 'No introduction is needed' makes me think it is a known entity... which to this time we don't know of a bigger body for Fortress Maximus.

I understand the part about a prisoner whose spark they could or would not extract... Thunderwing (too unpredictable to use), Omega is on Earth, it could be Metroplex, I suppose, but would he fit?

They do look up, so it seems like it would be something BIG.

It might be a big and in this universe famous robot due to the line of
"No introductions necessary"
Or that line can mean that Aequitas is in fact not a living thing but a weapon or the Maximus part of Fortress, as you know you don't have to introduce yourself to a non living thing.
I do however think it's FortMax's big body, due to him still being alive as if Overloard needed him for something. Or it's the prototype to a "city-former" and they'll hook up Fortress to it to save his live and have a few more guns.

Dead Metal wrote:It might be a big and in this universe famous robot due to the line of
"No introductions necessary"

Actually, the precise line is "I don't think introductions are appropriate," which carries a much different set of possible connotations.

Jeysie wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:It might be a big and in this universe famous robot due to the line of
"No introductions necessary"

Actually, the precise line is "I don't think introductions are appropriate," which carries a much different set of possible connotations.

Thus making my second thought of it actually being a weapon or city former prototype more likely.

i think its the dinobots personally...anything else would be borderline retarded at this point...if it was/is fortmax's body then why wouldnt he have used it to fight off the decepticons after the attack first happened and it was clear that they needed a last resort kind of defense before all was lost.

lilcarus wrote:i think its the dinobots personally...anything else would be borderline retarded at this point...if it was/is fortmax's body then why wouldnt he have used it to fight off the decepticons after the attack first happened and it was clear that they needed a last resort kind of defense before all was lost.

Personally i think it's what would be fort max's body, but here more like a permanent apex armor. Put it on and you can't take it off, or some sort of spark drain to power it. And the best reason Fort didn't use it would be because in this continuity it's not his yet, just his duty to guard it and keep it very locked up.

I posted this in another thread yesterday:

zodconvoy wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and say "Aequitas" is a ship like the Wreckers had in Stormbringer, the "Xantium" which had visable robot parts and looked very Fort Max like. The now limbless Maximus will be plugged in to it, finally meeting the minimal height requirement for the name "Fortress" and throwing down with Overlord. Remember Sixshot versus Metroplex from the Spotlight? Wreckers style!

I think it's not only Max's new body but the (surviving) Wreckers ride out of there!

I don't think it is the Dinobots or Grimlock. The Dinobots were given a pass per the deal between Magnus and Grimlock and if it is Grimlock why not just call him Grimlock. There is no reason to give him a codename.

MYoung23 wrote: There is no reason to give him a codename.

Why not? It's as possible as anything else. Especially if they did not want the Cons to have interest in him for whatever reason.

I'm not sure, and I'm not sure it's him, just a guess.

My thing about Aequitas is...

One, it seems to be something that the older and more in-the-know folks know about, and everyone else is clueless. That would seem to rule out the more famous robots.

Especially since there's no reason why Springer or Perceptor wouldn't just come right out and give the more well-known name if that was the case. There's no point in keeping your own troops in the dark on what could be useful information for the mission, when they're going all find out what Aequitas is the moment they see it anyway.

No... I get the feeling so far that whatever Aequitas is, that's either its real name, or its real name isn't one the rookies would know either.

It's also worth noting that Springer says that Aequitas being "down there amongst hundreds of Decepticons" is a very bad thing. That implies to me that it's something that can't defend itself if it's uncovered and/or can be controlled by the Decepticons. The fact that the Decepticons want it unlocked and available just bolsters that.

Now... I dunno about you, but folks like Grimlock don't seem like the sort of TF that either can't defend themselves or, if they are in a deactivated state, could be remotely controllable/usable by the Decepticons once activated. If I knew Grimlock (or some of the other Big Badass Autobot names being tossed around) was in a locked room unable to leave... I would be inclined to thank my lucky stars and leave him there. Overlord's crazy, but I don't think even he's crazy enough to let a powerful Autobot on the loose.

No... I think the people who are guessing inanimate/non-sentient objects are probably closer to the mark.

Jeysie wrote:My thing about Aequitas is...

One, it seems to be something that the older and more in-the-know folks know about, and everyone else is clueless. That would seem to rule out the more famous robots.

Especially since there's no reason why Springer or Perceptor wouldn't just come right out and give the more well-known name if that was the case. There's no point in keeping your own troops in the dark on what could be useful information for the mission, when they're going all find out what Aequitas is the moment they see it anyway.

No... I get the feeling so far that whatever Aequitas is, that's either its real name, or its real name isn't one the rookies would know either.

It's also worth noting that Springer says that Aequitas being "down there amongst hundreds of Decepticons" is a very bad thing. That implies to me that it's something that can't defend itself if it's uncovered and/or can be controlled by the Decepticons. The fact that the Decepticons want it unlocked and available just bolsters that.

Now... I dunno about you, but folks like Grimlock don't seem like the sort of TF that either can't defend themselves or, if they are in a deactivated state, could be remotely controllable/usable by the Decepticons once activated. If I knew Grimlock (or some of the other Big Badass Autobot names being tossed around) was in a locked room unable to leave... I would be inclined to thank my lucky stars and leave him there. Overlord's crazy, but I don't think even he's crazy enough to let a powerful Autobot on the loose.

No... I think the people who are guessing inanimate/non-sentient objects are probably closer to the mark.

Well said. With the parts you quoted and points you made, I have no choice but to agree!!!!

Thanks!

Also, I realized I forgot a third point.

Namely... I'm not even sure Aequitas would actually even be useful in a pure battle sense. Remember... the plan isn't to go down there and kill Overlord/take back the prison. The plan is to go down there, rescue the Autobot prisoners and Aequitas, and then... steal a ship and get the hell out of there.

Whatever Aequitas' importance is, it seems to be the sort of importance that either won't give them the edge in a battle against Overlord and his "army", or success still wouldn't be assured enough for risking using it that way to be the first choice.

I too am absolutely looving this series to death! (lol) I'm on the edge of my seat with each passing panel, page, and issue! I can't wait for this to come out in TPB so I can just lug it around with me wherever I go. My current carry everywhere TF TPB is Stormbringer and I want something new...and better like this!!

Ok, so my guess on Aequitas for now like most others is the body of what we fans know as Fort Max. FM does exist now so it's not like the Bots/Cons would be calling it Fortress Maximus. So I think it's some kind of uber TF body that was once some kind of super weapon or like Omega, a last line of defense. But of course something had to go wrong, hence it's located in G9...a Con prison of all places. But thinking that, would you put a weapon of mass destruction where criminals are held? IDK.

So as much as I would like to say it's gonna be FM future city/battle ship body, I doubt it might be that simple. Could it be a quint? Eh, mebeh, but I don't see why a quint would be locked up in some kinda of super secure room with wall vibrating at a different frequency...blah blah blah.

What we know. Overlord is trying to draw/bait Megs. Aequitas is in a super secure locations that doesn't seem to be a prison. It's just locked in a room and I'm just guessing here, but I don't think it's trying to get out. So the world is lock out from it, not it being lock out of the world. Whatever it is could be huge, or suspended. I'm guessing huge. Spring, Perceptor, Magnus, Impactor seemed familiar with the name. The request to retrieve Aequitas came from Prowl as well. So this is something that command is pretty keen to keep out of Con's hands.

I do not think it's Metroplex because he seemed to be very aware that he needed to be alone. I personally don't think it's Grimlock, because I think Kup and Guzzle are on looking for reinforcements now and I think that's who they are looking for. Honestly, if they grab old Grimster, I'd feel 10x more relieved it I were a Wrecker noob. With Springer, Impactor, and Grimlock on the same book, man, that, IMO, are some REAL HEAVY HITTERS.

My god I just thought of something:

It could be the Magnificence!

tigertracks 24 wrote:

MYoung23 wrote: There is no reason to give him a codename.

Why not? It's as possible as anything else. Especially if they did not want the Cons to have interest in him for whatever reason.

I'm not sure, and I'm not sure it's him, just a guess.

It makes no sense because Grimlock really isn't that special. What could he possibly know or have that the Decepticons could want? He spent millions of years in stasis lock encased in rock. He isn't that powerful either. Shockwave took out him and all the Dinobots by himself and Scorponok was handling him pretty easily.

Shockwave was far more a dangerous character and it didn't appear he was in any kind of special containment.

Dead Metal wrote:My god I just thought of something:

It could be the Magnificence!

I had that same thought, actually, but then dismissed it because Topspin at least ought to be familiar with it in that case. The Autobots weren't making a secret of their intel coming from the Magnificence while coordinating things in SL: Sideswipe, so I don't know why they'd suddenly have a codename for it.

Especially since the Cons seem to know it's worth breaking into that specific room, so they have to know something interesting is in there...

Hmmm... maybe... but that's just a wild guess... the Rescue Force combiner.

Chaoslock wrote:Hmmm... maybe... but that's just a wild guess... the Rescue Force combiner.

Didn't combine though (not enough parts), but a fun idea.

Hey Everyone

I love the fact there are actually people out there that have the same passion and deep knowledge of the Transformers universe that I have. There was a time when I thought transformers would never come back to the forefront but the last 5 years have been a dream come true for me.

I follow a couple of other boards too but usually i only speak when something im thinking hasn’t been covered by someone else but 9/10 times it usually has been(again great to see so many transfanatic geeky minds out there).

Ive read like 97% of the material ever made. I read the UK run when it was released way back when and ive got to say that I think IDW are doing a great job reinventing my beloved Transformers universe(Hence the fact ive bought every comic apart from some movie verse stuff).

This LSOTW is absolutely brilliant and I too have been eager to see who Kup is going too for help(surely Grimlock). The one that has me on the edge of my seat though is this whole Aequitas mystery.
Im loving some of the ideas on here. I particularly like the Fort Max one however I don’t think it will happen.

As soon as I finished the comic and looked at the next issue preview cover, the shape of the head in the background was instantly familiar.
I had a vague picture in my mind of a robot and after 24 hours a name rang back to me… ‘Centurion’.
Heres some Info:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Centurion_(Marvel)

I had a quick recap and even though the shape of the head is not exact I would say this in light of the story has the best chance of success out of all the guesses.
It was a mindless robot back in the UK run that was mind link controlled by a human…This could be the IDW universes version of it and for what ever historical reason it is codenamed ’Aequitas’.

I mean there are many reasons why this guess could work. This universes version of the ’unit’ may be way larger and way more powerful, They are in the s***, trapped in that room with a human(Verity) in there with them…. Is this going to be her way of joining the autobot fight in a more hands on way? Is it why Prowl had this all coordinated.. So Verity can use this ’weapon’ to remotely control or will she have to transfer her mind permanently? Orrr is it Ironfist that has a history with the ’unit’(Kimia,Cerbro-tech,blackouts).. It would also explain how Perceptor seems to know so much about the situation…

Well I hope ive managed to throw another exciting possibility into the mix and if ive got it right then hopefully the writers can get me a copy of episode 5 for free!!
If im wrong then it was great fun guessing with everyone else and I look forward to seeing the reveal.

Keep up the amazing work Nick, James and Guido.

Fusion_Fire wrote:

As soon as I finished the comic and looked at the next issue preview cover, the shape of the head in the background was instantly familiar.
I had a vague picture in my mind of a robot and after 24 hours a name rang back to me… ‘Centurion’.
Heres some Info:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Centurion_(Marvel)

I had a quick recap and even though the shape of the head is not exact I would say this in light of the story has the best chance of success out of all the guesses.
It was a mindless robot back in the UK run that was mind link controlled by a human…This could be the IDW universes version of it and for what ever historical reason it is codenamed ’Aequitas’.

I mean there are many reasons why this guess could work. This universes version of the ’unit’ may be way larger and way more powerful, They are in the s***, trapped in that room with a human(Verity) in there with them…. Is this going to be her way of joining the autobot fight in a more hands on way? Is it why Prowl had this all coordinated.. So Verity can use this ’weapon’ to remotely control or will she have to transfer her mind permanently? Orrr is it Ironfist that has a history with the ’unit’(Kimia,Cerbro-tech,blackouts).. It would also explain how Perceptor seems to know so much about the situation…

WElcome, and thanks for presenting your theory.

If this is the cover you are talking about:



I believe the head in the back is as you said in your second theory...it's Ironfist. I think this because in the RI cover version, without the title, etc. over the art you can see the crack/puncture wound on the brow/forehead.

Still none of us will know until it comes out this month, or maybe not even until the final issue.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Fusion_Fire wrote:

As soon as I finished the comic and looked at the next issue preview cover, the shape of the head in the background was instantly familiar.
I had a vague picture in my mind of a robot and after 24 hours a name rang back to me… ‘Centurion’.
Heres some Info:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Centurion_(Marvel)

I had a quick recap and even though the shape of the head is not exact I would say this in light of the story has the best chance of success out of all the guesses.
It was a mindless robot back in the UK run that was mind link controlled by a human…This could be the IDW universes version of it and for what ever historical reason it is codenamed ’Aequitas’.

I mean there are many reasons why this guess could work. This universes version of the ’unit’ may be way larger and way more powerful, They are in the s***, trapped in that room with a human(Verity) in there with them…. Is this going to be her way of joining the autobot fight in a more hands on way? Is it why Prowl had this all coordinated.. So Verity can use this ’weapon’ to remotely control or will she have to transfer her mind permanently? Orrr is it Ironfist that has a history with the ’unit’(Kimia,Cerbro-tech,blackouts).. It would also explain how Perceptor seems to know so much about the situation…

WElcome, and thanks for presenting your theory.

If this is the cover you are talking about:



I believe the head in the back is as you said in your second theory...it's Ironfist. I think this because in the RI cover version, without the title, etc. over the art you can see the crack/puncture wound on the brow/forehead.

Still none of us will know until it comes out this month, or maybe not even until the final issue.

I believe Ironfist is on that cover due to him confronting Kup due to him being responsible for the death of his friend(s) while he/they tried to save him in Spotlight Kup.
And the Idea of it being Centurion is actually pretty cool.

Dead Metal wrote:I believe Ironfist is on that cover due to him confronting Kup due to him being responsible for the death of his friend(s) while he/they tried to save him in Spotlight Kup.

It was Guzzle who was upset about his friends dying to save Kup, not Ironfist.

Ironfist has his own different weird stuff going on, what with the blackouts, the dent in his head, being posted on the Autobots' top-secret R&D lab, having been forced on the Wreckers instead of voted in, etc.

Jeysie wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:I believe Ironfist is on that cover due to him confronting Kup due to him being responsible for the death of his friend(s) while he/they tried to save him in Spotlight Kup.

It was Guzzle who was upset about his friends dying to save Kup, not Ironfist.

Ironfist has his own different weird stuff going on, what with the blackouts, the dent in his head, being posted on the Autobots' top-secret R&D lab, having been forced on the Wreckers instead of voted in, etc.

Oh, they all lookalike these Cybertronians
So we may get a few answers to his blackouts and acting weird.
When's the next issue coming out, this series should be a weekly release and not a monthly.