Phenotype wrote:D-340 wrote:Actually the opposite is true. Target is trying to pass the buck because they didn't order enough of the stock the fans are looking for. They did like they do with other movie toy tie ins, order a bunch of the first run stuff, no matter what it is, stuff the shelves, and then let it sit until it sells. No new stuff gets ordered til the old stuff is gone, regardless of what it is. In this case, No matter what it is, if it's got "Transformers" on the box, and it's sitting on the shelves, to them it's not selling, so they're not ordering anything else til it does(in this case, they think mid-october will be the magic date cuz of the holiday season).
Ask Target or any other mass retailer why they have an over abundance of other summer movie toys. It's because of what I just explained. The only reason this Target put out a sign to pass the buck on THEIR screw up is, I'm sure, the managers are tired of answering angry 8am line ups, phone calls, letter bombs, ect. It's very typical for mass retail to watch the trend on similar products. In this case, movie toys do well initially, then all but stop. They expected Transformers to do the same, and were way off. This happens. What's crappy is that they post a note saying it's Hasbro's fault, when in all actuality, THEY dropped the ball. But being the fanbase is easy to blame Hasbro for everything, we get a reaction like we have here "Oh, see, it's all Hasbro's fault. Target said so. BOOOO! HASBRO!" When this is actually Target just covering their ass.
You're WAY off base here. Maybe you haven't been reading a lot of the threads on here about this situation so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but I
have been reading this forum a lot and I've seen countless post after post from people who have either talked to managers at Target, or people who
work at Target, and they're all saying the same thing. They have tried re-ordering and Hasbro is denying their orders and telling them no stock is available. Hasbro is the one who gave them the "mid-October" date, Target is simply passing along the information because Hasbro has chosen to stay silent on this matter. Target isn't stupid, their employees might not know the difference between a voice changer helmet and a deluxe BB but the computer's know and the stock managers know, they wouldn't just hold off on ordering more stock for no reason, that doesn't even make sense.
I don't know how Kohl's is getting movie toys in stock all of the sudden and I've heard from a few people that Wal-Marts and TRU's and their areas have new movie toys but ALL of the Wal-Marts and TRU's in my city have been dry just as long as Target has. This isn't an issue with Target, this is a Hasbro issue.
If you are gonna quote me and try and take apart my argument, at least quote my full post. Especially the part were I said I was a manager, and I've done this before myself. I'm not making this up, I speak with some experience. But, if that's not good enough an explanation, I qoute this and ask a question:
Robinson wrote:If its hasbros fault that target doesnt have any figures, then why do some tru's have new figures, Kohl have new figures up the wazoo in some places, some people have found new figures at wal mart. So how is hasbro to blame when all of these other retailers seem to be getting at least some stock of some sort in?
I've seen this myself. My local TRU has Voyager Megatron(which is where I bought it) out the wazoo. The local Kohls in my area has all the new deluxes. How is that possible, if according to your logic, Hasbro hasn't manufactured enough product to meet demand? The answer: it's not. How could some have plenty of stock to go around, and others don't if there isn't enough product? If there isn't enough product, it's not possible. Everyone would be out if there were a shortage, but obviously there isn't a shortage if some do and some don't.
Let me put it another way. If you, or anyone else who has, spoke to the managers at Target, Walmart, ect. and got the truth, would you continue to shop there? If the manager had said "Look, we have enough Transformers movie products out there, if it's not what you want, go shop somewhere else. It's our policy not to order new product until the old product is gone, no matter what it is." instead of "Look, Hasbro isn't shipping enough product, it's their fault." I guarantee you would at least think twice about it. I'm sure these manager are sick and tired of answering the same question over, and over, and over. The easy(and most common) way of dealing with it is to push the blame elsewhere, so the company saves face and keeps it's business. It is in the managers interest to save face for the company. It's the company that pays them, not the consumer, not the distributor, not anyone else but the company. If said manager lost the company business, said manager would loose his job. It's the way of business in general, not just mass retail.
And, again, I speak from experience. I was a store manager for 4 years. I've done this before myself. I do know how this works. If you wanna blame Hasbro, if it makes you feel better, go ahead, I won't stop you. But, it's not Hasbro screw up. Mass retail dropped the ball.
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