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Shove the allspark into his chest, leaving the autobots without one of their best warriors, not to mention LEADERLESS, and thus leaving an entire planet along with his team at the mercy of megatron and the other decepticons whom I'm sure would have no problem killing all the humans for compensation. What the hell was he thinking?

He was thinking, well I'll be dead, so what's it matter to me?

But I do agree with you, he probably should have thought that over harder.

Sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice.

Though his real intention is justified; destroying the cube so that the decepticons very reason for being would suddenly cease to exist. Thus they lose all purpose for being. And, after a fit of rage and a general smash up with the Autobots, they leave Earth (after maybe having some fun with it) and carry on fighting autobots. The point was to get the decepticons off earth too, remember. they wouldn't be here if it werent for the cube.




That damn cube..

Remember bay probably figured,

"No sacrifice no victory... Let's kill Prime! wait bad idea uhhh Kill megs!

He should have shot the cube into space. Then the decepts have to leave to retreave it. And the autobots can leave and fight the decepticons without the fear of human lives at steak.

Mr.Bond007 wrote:He should have shot the cube into space.

How would they have done so, I wonder. It's not like they've got the equipment with them to launch the Cube swift and far enough to force the Cons into chasing it. Their real plan was to have the military extract it from Mission City. I'm sure they'd try to get the Cube off the planet using a rocket base or something similar.

Rushie wrote:

Mr.Bond007 wrote:He should have shot the cube into space.

How would they have done so, I wonder. It's not like they've got the equipment with them to launch the Cube swift and far enough to force the Cons into chasing it. Their real plan was to have the military extract it from Mission City. I'm sure they'd try to get the Cube off the planet using a rocket base or something similar.

That's kinda what I had in mind.

I am of the opinion that he believed that removing the reason for the war would result in the end of the war.

Some random Decepticon: "The war started over the AllSpark. It no longer exists. WHY EFFING BOTHER?!"

Night Raid wrote:I am of the opinion that he believed that removing the reason for the war would result in the end of the war.

Some random Decepticon: "The war started over the AllSpark. It no longer exists. WHY EFFING BOTHER?!"

That's what I thought his reasoning was, too. Why fight if there is nothing to fight over?

Interesting and thoughtful post. Let me chime in with my thoughts.

The All Spark is dangerous. The movie didn't tell us anything except that it can create life, but all that we saw was very evil creations. The cube itself wasn't inherently dangerous, but the radiation would appear to be the life force that created Decepticons. Optimus (obviously) saw this and knew it must be destroyed because it was the key that would allow the Decepticons to control the galaxy. However, as Ratchet pointed out, the cube may or may not kill Prime. It APPEARED to kill Megatron at the end of the movie but I think every single one of u believes he isn't dead, just deactivated and/or badly damaged.

Prime also has a shard of the cube that wasn't destroyed, and for some reason he kept it.

Obviouly there's "more than meets the eye" to the All Spark, and if Prime didn't completely destroy it he had a reason not to.

Hmmm, I never thought of this idea before. Interesting concept.

I'd like to think that the Autobots would be smart enough to have some sort of line of command in case someone died. Prime might have sacrificed himself, but I'm betting that there would be someone to take his place. Assuming it's one of those societies where he has to actually name someone B4 he dies and hadn't done it yet.... cause, we all saw how well that worked out in the animated movie.

The All Spark is definitely a problem. If they destroy it they lose the ability to save their planet. Keep it around and the fighting will never stop. I suppose if the All Spark was the only thing that could save my home world I would not be willing to destroy it even to end a war.

On Earth the only beings that can stop Megatron from getting the cube are Prime and the remaining autobots, which at this point are Ratchet and Ironhide b/c Bumbles is out of commission and Jazz is dead ( ). (Screw you Micheal Bay, I refuse to believe that the humans could successfully keep Megs or the Decepticons from getting the All Spark.) If Megs does get the All Spark then chances are they are not going to get it back and that simply is not an option. With no reinforcements coming anytime soon and little chance of beating Megs there are only two options: Die w/ Megatron getting the cube and ensuring the destruction of countless worlds or Die by destroying the cube and thereby stop Megatron's plans.

The only way Megatron would get the cube is with Prime's death anyways. If Prime dies w/o destroying the Spark Megatron wins and will destroy Earth and and the world. If Prime dies AND destroys the spark then Megatron..... would still kill all the humans and earth, but his plans for conquest would conceivably grind to a halt. If Megatron is going to kill everyone anyways and Prime can't stop him while alive then he might as well take out the thing that will help him the most at at the very least.

In short, if Megatron had not been destroyed by the All Spark, Earth would have been boned.

Prime's original plan was a very effective one when you really think about it.Altho Earth may have been destroyed by the Decepticon's there number would have been reduced.

And with out the cube no new cons could be made.Prime wouldnt have been only think of earth in his plan but the rest of the universe as well.

If earth had to be destroyed to safe guard the rest of the universe then so be it.

"IF ALL ELSE FAILS, I will unite it with the spark in chest."

Ramjet's Ghost wrote:"IF ALL ELSE FAILS, I will unite it with the spark in chest."

*facepalm* Oh yeah...

Ratchet says it could destroy him. i might have become one with the Matrix of Leadership and made him more powerful.

It would be so very wrong to destroy the Allspark in some random meaningless way wher i might actually survive and fall into bad hands.