The Energon Pub

What is the purpose of DOTM? The first two movies were about trying to obtain energon. The first movie had the Allspark and the second movie had the energon harvester. So will the third movie have another energon producing machine/artifact? Transformers Fanatic has suggested the possible existence of Vector Sigma in this movie. Which is plausible but....

As far as I know the Allspark and energon harvester have only existed in Bay-verse. Not in any other transformers continuity. So will Bay pull an actual known device from the transformers universe such as Vector Sigma (Maybe Sentinel Prime holds they key to it?) or just make up another one?

Somewhere I heard that it's supposed to be with the Cybertronian war itself.

Red 50 wrote:Somewhere I heard that it's supposed to be with the Cybertronian war itself.

This. Unless it's part of the misinformation campaign, there is supposed to be little to no "fighting over the MacGuffin" in DOTM.

Didn't the DOTM novel have something on the back saying the D'cons are looking for Earths secrets or the governments secrets? I thought I read that on there?

yea i read that too. but some books are different than the movies. I have not read any of the oyher books to know how they compare to their movies.

Yeah, I hear you there. I'm going to read the book, but after the movie comes out. I did it for ROTF and think thats how I'm going to go this route too.

Here's a theory:

Shockwave is trying to dig around earth with the Drill Bot (Whatever it is) looking for energon to use to turn the Moon into a new Cybertron. If the drill should hit any of the buried energon deposits, it could mean game over for all human life.

BeastWarsFTW wrote:As far as I know the Allspark and energon harvester have only existed in Bay-verse

Yeah, the closest to the Allspark we would get is The Well of All Sparks in the comics.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

BeastWarsFTW wrote:As far as I know the Allspark and energon harvester have only existed in Bay-verse

Yeah, the closest to the Allspark we would get is The Well of All Sparks in the comics.

The Allspark was in Animated. Ratchet said somethign about it in Prime too. And in the last episode of Cybertron, one of the kids said something about the Allspark too.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

BeastWarsFTW wrote:As far as I know the Allspark and energon harvester have only existed in Bay-verse

Yeah, the closest to the Allspark we would get is The Well of All Sparks in the comics.

The Allspark was in Animated. Ratchet said somethign about it in Prime too. And in the last episode of Cybertron, one of the kids said something about the Allspark too.

Be that how it is, The Allspark is gonna always be the Cubical Artifact that gave life to movieverse Cybertronians.

Or at least until something as wothy called by the same name appears.

Twitchythe3rd wrote:

Red 50 wrote:Somewhere I heard that it's supposed to be with the Cybertronian war itself.

This. Unless it's part of the misinformation campaign, there is supposed to be little to no "fighting over the MacGuffin" in DOTM.

But if there's no MacGuffin, they have to put effort into the plotline!...

Possibly to finish off the movies with one heck of a gigantic CGI bang? It looked like invasion of Earth and from what it seemed giant roots of Cybertronic technology ripping through the streets. And judging from the gigantic Cybertronic ships in our atmosphere possibly even them taking earth as their new home due to overpopulation or lack there of a population.

onsanyo-con wrote:Possibly to finish off the movies with one heck of a gigantic CGI bang? It looked like invasion of Earth and from what it seemed giant roots of Cybertronic technology ripping through the streets. And judging from the gigantic Cybertronic ships in our atmosphere possibly even them taking earth as their new home due to overpopulation or lack there of a population.

At the end, I can see almost all of the original Autobots dead, but also with a new crew (Optimus, Sentinel, Bumblebee, Sideswipe, and the Wreckers.) While Decepticon ships retreat. Megatron and Shockwave are aboard one of those ships with Starscream dead. Shockwave contacts someone and reports their success on earth. And obviously it would be UNICRON. And the end shot of the entire trilogy is Unicron closing in on the milkyway galaxy with an army of Sweeps following him. The screen flashes to black instantly and the credits roll; leaving the door open for another director to continue the story!

Obviously Earth becomes the final battleground over something that Bay & Co. are keeping secret.

DOTM purpose = make lots of $$$$$$$ for Bay and Hasbro

To make me happy, that is DOTM's purpose.

SlyTF1 wrote:

onsanyo-con wrote:Possibly to finish off the movies with one heck of a gigantic CGI bang? It looked like invasion of Earth and from what it seemed giant roots of Cybertronic technology ripping through the streets. And judging from the gigantic Cybertronic ships in our atmosphere possibly even them taking earth as their new home due to overpopulation or lack there of a population.

At the end, I can see almost all of the original Autobots dead, but also with a new crew (Optimus, Sentinel, Bumblebee, Sideswipe, and the Wreckers.) While Decepticon ships retreat. Megatron and Shockwave are aboard one of those ships with Starscream dead. Shockwave contacts someone and reports their success on earth. And obviously it would be UNICRON. And the end shot of the entire trilogy is Unicron closing in on the milkyway galaxy with an army of Sweeps following him. The screen flashes to black instantly and the credits roll; leaving the door open for another director to continue the story!

If Bay wiped all humans then he probably wouldn't find interest in making it since it was for a new step in the universe of Transformers, not just taking G1 Characters making them look realistic and tossing all this junk into it. I honestly doubt he'd bring in Unicron, he already gets enough criticism with other characters.

well in the first movie, the allspark (source of energon) the second movie, the harvester (source of energon). Maybe in the third, the key to cybertron's core is on the ark. while the core of cybertron was "repairing" from being infused with dark energon (WFC the Game), sentinel prime and some other autobots (mirage, wheeljack, and some others) took the core to activate omega supreme to keep megatron from accessing the core (again, WFC the Game. but the only way they could hide it was to leave cybertron. when they crashed on the moon, sentinel prime's signal couldn't be traced (neither wheeljack's, nor mirage, nor any other autobots). when megatron issues shockwave to come to earth to lead the decepticons in order for megatron to repair, on his way he detects a signal coming from the dark side of the moon. it is the key. the autobot's satellite (cosmos possibly) explains to prime that the decepicons are looking for something on the moon. optimus sends sentinel a warning that the decepticons are en-route to retrieve the key to activate omega supreme to absorb the remaining dark energon in the core to cybertron. sentinel and the surviving autobots (wheeljack and mirage) travel to earth to escape from shockwave and his army, but are then apprehended by starscream, skywarp, and thundercracker. sentinel and the autobots ban together to protect the key to the core. sam then volenteers to wield the key (kinda) in a backpack and run away while the autobots destroy the decepticons once and for all. not sure, but maybe omega is being held on cybertron and the decepticons are keeping him hostage. once the decepticons follow shockwave to travel to earth, omega supreme figures out a way to escape. he then travels to earth in search of shockwave-the ass who tortured him on cybertron-and plans to destroy him in the heat of revenge. the end.

I might be mistaken, but I don't recall Allspark creating energon.

All I remember is that it created/granted cybertronian life.

Red 50 wrote:I might be mistaken, but I don't recall Allspark creating energon.

All I remember is that it created/granted cybertronian life.

yes it did not create energon. i beleive it could grant/create sparks for new transformers.

kaonREBEL753 wrote:well in the first movie, the allspark (source of energon) the second movie, the harvester (source of energon). Maybe in the third, the key to cybertron's core is on the ark. while the core of cybertron was "repairing" from being infused with dark energon (WFC the Game), sentinel prime and some other autobots (mirage, wheeljack, and some others) took the core to activate omega supreme to keep megatron from accessing the core (again, WFC the Game. but the only way they could hide it was to leave cybertron. when they crashed on the moon, sentinel prime's signal couldn't be traced (neither wheeljack's, nor mirage, nor any other autobots). when megatron issues shockwave to come to earth to lead the decepticons in order for megatron to repair, on his way he detects a signal coming from the dark side of the moon. it is the key. the autobot's satellite (cosmos possibly) explains to prime that the decepicons are looking for something on the moon. optimus sends sentinel a warning that the decepticons are en-route to retrieve the key to activate omega supreme to absorb the remaining dark energon in the core to cybertron. sentinel and the surviving autobots (wheeljack and mirage) travel to earth to escape from shockwave and his army, but are then apprehended by starscream, skywarp, and thundercracker. sentinel and the autobots ban together to protect the key to the core. sam then volenteers to wield the key (kinda) in a backpack and run away while the autobots destroy the decepticons once and for all. not sure, but maybe omega is being held on cybertron and the decepticons are keeping him hostage. once the decepticons follow shockwave to travel to earth, omega supreme figures out a way to escape. he then travels to earth in search of shockwave-the ass who tortured him on cybertron-and plans to destroy him in the heat of revenge. the end.

Except the WFC isn't part of the Movieverse Continuity.

Twitchythe3rd wrote:

kaonREBEL753 wrote:well in the first movie, the allspark (source of energon) the second movie, the harvester (source of energon). Maybe in the third, the key to cybertron's core is on the ark. while the core of cybertron was "repairing" from being infused with dark energon (WFC the Game), sentinel prime and some other autobots (mirage, wheeljack, and some others) took the core to activate omega supreme to keep megatron from accessing the core (again, WFC the Game. but the only way they could hide it was to leave cybertron. when they crashed on the moon, sentinel prime's signal couldn't be traced (neither wheeljack's, nor mirage, nor any other autobots). when megatron issues shockwave to come to earth to lead the decepticons in order for megatron to repair, on his way he detects a signal coming from the dark side of the moon. it is the key. the autobot's satellite (cosmos possibly) explains to prime that the decepicons are looking for something on the moon. optimus sends sentinel a warning that the decepticons are en-route to retrieve the key to activate omega supreme to absorb the remaining dark energon in the core to cybertron. sentinel and the surviving autobots (wheeljack and mirage) travel to earth to escape from shockwave and his army, but are then apprehended by starscream, skywarp, and thundercracker. sentinel and the autobots ban together to protect the key to the core. sam then volenteers to wield the key (kinda) in a backpack and run away while the autobots destroy the decepticons once and for all. not sure, but maybe omega is being held on cybertron and the decepticons are keeping him hostage. once the decepticons follow shockwave to travel to earth, omega supreme figures out a way to escape. he then travels to earth in search of shockwave-the ass who tortured him on cybertron-and plans to destroy him in the heat of revenge. the end.

Except the WFC isn't part of the Movieverse Continuity.

also shockwave is already on earth. the russians have him in the basement.

Purpose of DOTM? To sell toys. And to entertain me.

But really, it is just a big question mark as to what exactly DOTM is about. We have a few vague details, but we really don't exactly know what the Decepticons are after this time. We'll just wait and see.