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Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby NTESHFT » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:02 pm

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I just came across this a second ago. He was my favorite of the Headmasters. I need to know if he is the real deal or not. Can someone help?

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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:06 pm

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I've yet to see KO's of Nightbeat, but I still would avoid sellers like him. He has to have come across a nice volume of toys for a reason, and the most likely reason (to me) is that they're KO's being sold as the real deal. I'm a bit paranoid about that.

If I were you, I'd look elsewhere, especially if you're planning on opening him up. $150 for one MISB Nightbeat is a bit too rich for my blood, unless it was his transgendered repaint Minerva.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby Skyfire77 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:36 pm

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Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.

They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby alldarker » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:42 am

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These are most likely real. There was a pretty well recorded 2007 or early 2008 warehouse find of G1 Nightbeat cases: all in European (French / Dutch language) boxes (as these are). The only thing 'wrong' with the item listing is his statement that these are "extremely rare seen" versions. They are actually relatively common and regularly pop up on eBay, at around the price these are going for, BTW. They are indeed officially licensed Hasbro products, but re-released in China in 1995.

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I've dealt with this seller before and he's dependable. I actually think he's the original finder, and he's been dripping these Nightbeats onto eBay since 2008 (check his feedback). Judging by his feedback, he also found a stock of Landcross'es, Road Caesar's and perhaps even some LioKaisers.
Looks like he's selling these from best quality to worse... So this might mean he's slowly running out of stock.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby NTESHFT » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:09 pm

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Thanks for the input. :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby dinogeist » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:03 pm

Skyfire77 wrote:Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.

They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.


As of august 10,2011 at 11:57 pm their are still 4 left in that ebay auction.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby Skyfire77 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:46 am

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deathy wrote:
Skyfire77 wrote:Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.

They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.


As of august 10,2011 at 11:57 pm their are still 4 left in that ebay auction.


Huh, so they are. Weird. I swear they were all sold when I looked. #-o
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:51 pm

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Skyfire77 wrote:
deathy wrote:
Skyfire77 wrote:Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.

They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.


As of august 10,2011 at 11:57 pm their are still 4 left in that ebay auction.


Huh, so they are. Weird. I swear they were all sold when I looked. #-o


I think he put more up for sale. Somebody mentioned earlier he has a whole bunch and has been slowly putting them up for sale.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......

Postby NTESHFT » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:33 pm

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Hopefully i'll get the cash soon for him. My b-day is coming up.
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