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Sabrblade wrote:True, but those are key factors in the matter.
Sabrblade wrote:Would hand-drawn animation not also be able to express these little bits as well? They aren't exactly something that can only be done with CG.
Sabrblade wrote:And would you still find the show as entertaining if the score was less on the "epic orchestra" side and more on the "action-y heavy metal rock and roll" side?
Henry921 wrote:Bouncy X wrote:i don't get this trend lately of having cartoons last 2 or 3 seasons and then end them...only to have a new "version" start up shortly after. whats wrong with cartoons lasting 5 to 10 seasons like any normal show?
like in this case in particular, it was apparently a well performing and obviously well received show so why end it? and when end it so prematurely with a half season and then a movie? why not at least give it a full season like the first two? and this seems to have happened to all the Transformers show that have come since G1.
The goal of any TV series is 65 episodes for syndication, so the show can be shopped around to additional networks that want to air it. Now that Prime has hit that milestone, Hasbro could continue but no longer needs to do so. While they might make money off additional seasons, they'll make more money if they have two shows that both make it to syndication they can then shop around. If the shows are thematically connected, they have an additional selling point, and an interested network could pick up both.
Win-win-win for Hasbro that way, rather than just one solitary win.![]()
I'm interested in what Orci's planning and eagerly await more info. Assuming they're continuing from Prime, I still see a lot of potential plot to work with.
Energon, RobotMasters, Cybertron, and Go! also feature CGI Autobots and Decepticons, yet they are almost completely incapable of displaying any kind of emotional/behavioral expression whatsoever, with this instance being one of the sole exceptions of all four shows outside of any super-deformed gag moments.ArmadaPrime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Would hand-drawn animation not also be able to express these little bits as well? They aren't exactly something that can only be done with CG.
I think it would be entirely possible, but less likely to happen. The 3D CGI just makes it feel a lot more intense, and a lot more real.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
skyshadowprimus wrote:Henry921 wrote:Bouncy X wrote:i don't get this trend lately of having cartoons last 2 or 3 seasons and then end them...only to have a new "version" start up shortly after. whats wrong with cartoons lasting 5 to 10 seasons like any normal show?
like in this case in particular, it was apparently a well performing and obviously well received show so why end it? and when end it so prematurely with a half season and then a movie? why not at least give it a full season like the first two? and this seems to have happened to all the Transformers show that have come since G1.
The goal of any TV series is 65 episodes for syndication, so the show can be shopped around to additional networks that want to air it. Now that Prime has hit that milestone, Hasbro could continue but no longer needs to do so. While they might make money off additional seasons, they'll make more money if they have two shows that both make it to syndication they can then shop around. If the shows are thematically connected, they have an additional selling point, and an interested network could pick up both.
Win-win-win for Hasbro that way, rather than just one solitary win.![]()
I'm interested in what Orci's planning and eagerly await more info. Assuming they're continuing from Prime, I still see a lot of potential plot to work with.
In addition to this the core target audience is children whose tastes change as they grow up. Think about yourself as an 8 year old compared to a 13 year old. Your tastes are totally different and you might not really follow a kids tv show and want to buy toys to play with beyond a certain window.
Any new viewers reaching the right age where they can jump on the show might not like the fact there is a whole backstory spanning several years to catch up on.
While this sucks for adults who enjoy the show we are sadly not who the show is marketed for
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Transformers was a comic series in the months before its original cartoon came out.njb902 wrote:All of which were comics before being turned into shows. Not that any of that has anything to do with your argument, just kinda putting it out there.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Prime was at a much higher level than Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes were.GodMagnus wrote:In other words, they're going to do the same thing Marvel did when they canceled Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Ultimate Spider-Man isn't horrible, but it sure isn't on the level of it's predecessor. And Avengers Assemble isn't that bad either, but still not on the same level of the previous show. The intensity has been dialed way way back and so far they're pretty successful.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Baka! If the new TF cartoon is as any bit as good as the current TMNT cartoon, that would frankly be a godsend to the TF brand. That TMNT cartoon is so good it's universally beloved by Turtles fans of all ages.Metrosuplex wrote:The new cartoon will aim to capture kids like TMNT has, and I , quite frankly, hope it fails.
Sabrblade wrote:Always have been, always will be. That's just the way it is.Metrosuplex wrote:njb902 wrote:
Kids are their real customers.
I expected you to say something a little better than that!![]()
Why do you say kids are the real customer? Is it because Hasbro told you?
The adult customers just make up a fraction of their consumer market. The majority is made up of either kids or parents buying for their kids.
Sabrblade wrote:For me, it's not because they weren't the stars, it's that they simply were not interesting for the most part. In Animated, both were very fascinating characters full of so much life and energy, but they weren't the stars either. It was a group effort of Optimus, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Ratchet, Prowl, and Sari who were all stars equally.
HAHAHAHAH! Nice. They should throw some Trix into the show, just to remind us! Maybe a rabbit-robo to taunt the collectors, too! HAHAHA!Sabrblade wrote:Silly Wolf, TFs are for kids.Megatron Wolf wrote:son of a bitch, the hope of finally getting a good TF series has been shot down yet again. Well lets just hope Prime gets a personality this time around and the kids arent annoying. Oh & for the love of god lose the bayformer look. But on another note why do we need a kid friendly transformers, isnt that rescue bots job?![]()
Sabrblade wrote::HEADHURTS:
*sigh*
It's threads like this that seriously make me wish that Transformers: Prime never existed.
Metrosuplex wrote:And I've said this before: kids like adult things. That's why they play Call of Duty, despite the graphic intensity and language. I.e. you can sell things to adults and still entertain kids, whereas you do NOT see many adults buying kid things (i.e. do you play Pokemon, almost 20 years later?And if you do, are you as impressed as when you were 9?).
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