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Robinson wrote:

pr0wl wrote:that was OPTIMUS that called someone a
"punk @$% decepticon"?!

No, it was Ironhide that said it.

Ah, okay. That's good news.

You sure though?
That saounded a LOT like Optimus. But with all the other things you had to focus on during the movie, I could be wrong.

Oh well, I'll find out for myself later.
But thanks for saving Optimus' goody two-shoe-ness. XD

Siren Prime wrote:

Robinson wrote:

pr0wl wrote:that was OPTIMUS that called someone a
"punk @$% decepticon"?!

No, it was Ironhide that said it.

Ah, okay. That's good news.

You sure though?
That saounded a LOT like Optimus. But with all the other things you had to focus on during the movie, I could be wrong.

Oh well, I'll find out for myself later.
But thanks for saving Optimus' goody two-shoe-ness. XD

I plead the fifth as to how I was able to verify, but I did verify prior to posting.

Siren Prime wrote:

Robinson wrote:

pr0wl wrote:that was OPTIMUS that called someone a
"punk @$% decepticon"?!

No, it was Ironhide that said it.

Ah, okay. That's good news.

You sure though?
That saounded a LOT like Optimus. But with all the other things you had to focus on during the movie, I could be wrong.

Oh well, I'll find out for myself later.
But thanks for saving Optimus' goody two-shoe-ness. XD

Nope. It was Ironhide. He was walking up behind Optiums right before Phe asked demolisher..
"Any last words?"

I have to agree with others that the language really wasn't as bad as many are making it out to be.

Okay.
If this just goes back and forth, I'll wait until I get the DVD and even switch the subtitles on while I watch.

Then I'll find out for myself.

Siren Prime wrote:Okay.
If this just goes back and forth, I'll wait until I get the DVD and even switch the subtitles on while I watch.

Then I'll find out for myself.

I'm telling you I have confirmed it, and 5150 reaffirmed it as well.

Robinson wrote:

Siren Prime wrote:Okay.
If this just goes back and forth, I'll wait until I get the DVD and even switch the subtitles on while I watch.

Then I'll find out for myself.

I'm telling you I have confirmed it, and 5150 reaffirmed it as well.

Oh, okay. I misread 5150's post.
My mistake. Sorry.

No problem!

I think the erm....*sex* scenes were a bigger issue (ie dogs humping....Alice "climbing" all over Sam). But the 21st century has brought a who new definition of bad language. Even Disney is bringing out "interesting slurs". I think we have evolved enough to think of these words a little less of a bad thing, that they were back then.

Robinson wrote:

pr0wl wrote:that was OPTIMUS that called someone a
"punk @$% decepticon"?!

No, it was Ironhide that said it.

thanks for clearing that up

Wheelie humping Megan Fox's leg like one of the dogs was... well, odd!


~Lady B

The language didn't bother me too much.
The fact is, I know people whom talk much worse.
"F--k this!" "F--k that!"
Language for no reason, other than to pretend to talk like an adult.

i say pleny of bad things myself, but i didn't think it was well used in the movie.

it really came off more as "this is bad writing, quick add gratuitus cursing to distract people"

Sams mom droppin the s-bomb like that (tho i've seen real moms do it) was over the top.

my opinion on the twins = facepalm. they gave me a chuckle or 2, but i would have rather had less characters better developed than a bunch we don't even have names for *cough purple bike cough* or ones who don't get lines *cough jolt cough*

yes the movie got a pg-13 rating. did they push the limit of how much you can get away with and still be pg-13? a little.

I normally wouldn't have a problem with any of what was said, but it just seemed forced and in bad taste. imho a little more creative writing would have been nice.

but you ultimatly have to look at the fact the studio wants the biggest bang for the buck, and adult ticket sales are more expensive than kids. So the movie isn't appropriate for the 6-10 year old the toys are marketed toword, but your 15 year old and his 10 friends are all gonna see it, and they pay more.

I don't know if anyone has thought about it but to me the four language kind of makes sense. Nearly everyone today talk with at least a little cursing and if you came from a another world and the people you were around spoke that way you would probably pick up the tone as well,if you notice the Decepticons used far less cursing then he Autobots. Less interaction with Humans less foul language

pr0wl wrote:that was OPTIMUS that called someone a
"punk @$% decepticon"?!
i thought that was ironhide
(i know some of you think im an older adult ie creating this thread about tfs cussing and all but im 16)
but my whole life optimus has been all shilverous and goody
2 shoes
i cant believe he out of all tfs cussed
im kinda dissapointed that he cussed

but i guess i'll have to"get over it"
ps
thanx for backin me up older fans
(young fans nowa days)*grumble*
and WHO has TIME to STUDY about a slaggin movie about cartoon robots?!

Personally I make it a point to learn all I can of any movie I am going to see. In this case I studied the comics and cartoons. With all the love I have for them So I can tell you I have the time. Sorry the cursing got to you. It will fade and you will mature or you wont. and Well **** off then.

and optimus' face fetish in this was a little perturbing. i don't wanna know what he intends to do with all of them...

Name_Violation wrote:and optimus' face fetish in this was a little perturbing. i don't wanna know what he intends to do with all of them...

I don't suppose the 'At least he has a hobby' response is really going to work in this situation is it?

I guess this is one of those things where it is really hard for me to have a rock solid opinion since I looked at RotF from several different viewpoints. As a parent the violence and language were defintie considerations before giving the green light for my kids to see it but from my own personal viewpoint, which differs even from the TF fan side of me, I knew I was going into a PG-13 movie and was not at all surprised at what I was presented with. For my own safety and the sake of time I'm leaving my TF Fan views out of this particular round.

don't get me wrong, i watched it from an action movie fan stand point first, a tf fan second.

I was a great "robots that become other things and blow stuff up" movie.

was it what i would have liked from a fanboy point of view? parts were good. the gratuitus comedy scenes took away from the whole feel for me. a comment here or there weren't bad. now granted the funniest lines on the film were hilarious. that doesn't mean they were good dialog.

my main beef after watching it a second time was the dogs humpin, and wheelie humping.
granted they were mere moments, but i would have preferred to know about the purple motorcycle or jolt. instead of them getting lines we get testicultator and "I'm at the enemy's scrotum"

if you cut the 5-10 minutes of crap out of it and gave some more lines to tf's i would have enjoyed it more.

Now a question thats been plaging me: when we see all the D-con, they constantly speak english. then starscream speaks in cybertronian when hes flying around. then when he talks to megatron, its in english again. wtf?

In answer to the english/cybertronian thing N_V, I think the switching back to English is for the benfit of the fans. Having Starscream speak in Cybertronian while he's in his jet mode, causing for a lingering shot of an F-22 while the translation plays out at the bottom of the screen, that's for the benefit of the US Military and giving a nod to their kick-ass jet. It's probably why Bay gets so much cooperation from the military. He's kissing butt.

Name_Violation wrote:if you cut the 5-10 minutes of crap out of it and gave some more lines to tf's i would have enjoyed it more.

This is the epidome of a lot of my feelings...

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I want more of the motorcycle girls...

And more Starscream. But NOT in his simpering form...

Name_Violation wrote:Now a question thats been plaging me: when we see all the D-con, they constantly speak english. then starscream speaks in cybertronian when hes flying around. then when he talks to megatron, its in english again. wtf?

Hey they got skills in multiple languages.

I'd show off too.

Hey, Frenzy knew sign language...sort of. O.k. so he flipped off the police, but at least he took the time to pick up some off colored American culture.

I agree with the OP, though the movie is rated PG-13, clearly it was marketed towards younger children and as such the creative team should have been more mindful of the characters diction (and actions).

I am seriously surprised at the short sightedness in people who say "It's rated Pg 13, you should know better".

This is a movie based on a kids show that is marketed towards kids and people who AS KIDS grew up liking transformers. Most of the merchandise (i.e. toys) for this movie are in the same isle as the Star Wars, Bakugan, Ben 10 and Pokemon toys and in case you forget this is licensed by Hasbro, which is a toy company. Hell in my Target the Transformers stuff shares an isle with freaking Thomas the Train and Fisher Price Imaginext toys.

If you are not a parent I doubt you really care and the whole point is that there is no reason for YOU to care about the swearing. But parents (like me) who have two little boys that pretend each and every day that they are transformers and talk about transformers all day long and ask you questions like "Who do you think would be a better leader of the Decepticons, Starscream or Megatron?" and then proceed to tell you the pros and cons of each freaking character are the ones who want to take their kids to the movies to have an awesome, epic movie experience and we can't because of robots calling each other "pu**Y" and "bitch" which is completely and totally not needed.

*I* do not have a problem with foul language. Some of my favorite movies of all time are loaded with profanity like Scary Movie 1, 40 year old virgin, role models, etc. But they are not in any way marketing towards kids, with figures in the freaking toy isle and in Burger King kids meals.

Yeah the movie made $200 million dollars in the first week but anyone who went to a show before 7pm can tell you there were A LOT of kids in the theater. Parents are ok with letting their kids have some exposure to "fantasy violence" (look at all the weaponry and blasters and combat material in toy isles) but not so ok with cursing. It's the same thing with Star Wars and why it's wildly popular. But if Obi Wan was calling Anakin a whiny bitch and the Emperor was telling Luke he was "getting an ass whuppin" you suddenly change the game completely and you piss off a lot of parents (i.e buyers).

We buy the toys, clothes, posters, books and games for our kids and we take our kids to the movies. We are the reason Transfomers are successful today and our parents are the reason it was successful in the 80s because parents PAY for this stuff. Sure there are collectors but I'm not so sure Hasbro banks on collectors to fill their coffers around Christmas time and buy kids meals and wear transformers pajamas to bed.

So in a nutshell, parents don't like the language because we WANT to take our kids to the movie, but can't. Before anyone says "it doesn't matter what YOU want", well it certainly does matter because I don't know of anyone or any movie company aside from maybe Kevin Smith who makes movies for themselves.

He shoulda been called a whiny bitch.

Just to point out, but most of the people in this forum are parents.

I'm not a parent, but I am a big sister. And I don't like my little sisters being badly influenced by anything.
I personally would rather have no swearing at all, but like I've said, I got over it.

But I'm 18. My sisters are 9 year olds.
And I rather they wait a few years before seeing movies like TF2.

But that's not my decision. That's my dad's.
Especially since they live on the other side of the country with him.

So we have a movie geared towards kids, that they really want to see having watched all the cartoons and played with the toys; but being the good parent that you are, you can't take them to go see it because of the content. It's like merging E.T. and American Pie